bevin Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060914/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear_us_2 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> VIENNA, Austria - A recent House of Representatives committee report on Iran's nuclear capability is "outrageous and dishonest" in trying to make a case that Tehran's program is geared toward making weapons, a senior official of the U.N. nuclear watchdog has said <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Sounds like the Bush admin is lying about Iran in the same way that they lied about Iraq Fortunately, by now, it is well known that they are liars and so have no credibility /Bevin Quote
Dr. Shane Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 The article says nothing about the Bush Administration. How can someone read that and come away with the opinion the Bush Administration are liars unless they had a preformed opinion before reading it and read into the article things the article doesn't say? Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Neil D Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Quote: The dispute was reminiscent of the clashes between the IAEA and Washington over whether Saddam Hussein was trying to make weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear arms. American arguments that Saddam had such covert arms programs were given as the chief reason for invading Iraq and toppling Saddam. This quote from the article makes a reference to the 'clashes between the IAEA and Washington over whether Saddam Hussein was trying to make weapons of mass destruction"...Only one in Washington making that claim is the Bush Adminstration....It sure ain't the pentegon..... :grin: Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Dr. Shane Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Quote: Only one in Washington making that claim is the Bush Adminstration.... I think the verb there should be "was" not "is". That is if I understand what the meaning of the word "is" is. Noetheless. President Bush did believe what the CIA was telling him. That much is true. However that is not what the article is about. One would have to have a preformed, anti-Bush prejudice to read the article and conclude it is somehow talking about Bush. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Neil D Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Huh???? What are you trying to say, Shane????? Quote: However that is not what the article is about. One would have to have a preformed, anti-Bush prejudice to read the article and conclude it is somehow talking about Bush. The article IS talking about American Leadership, aka Washington, aka America. The only representative from America elected to speak on behalf of America, that was talking about Saddam and WMDs IS/WAS the current administration, aka BUSH. You see, Shane, 1+1 still equals 2 in the base of 10. Now, if you want to use base 2, then 1+1=10. Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Dr. Shane Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 My SPIN detector is going off. The article starts out like this: Quote: A recent House of Representatives committee report on Iran's nuclear capability is "outrageous and dishonest" in trying to make a case that Tehran's program is geared toward making weapons, a senior official of the U.N. nuclear watchdog has said. Now we can spin "House of Representatives" into "American leadership" but the story is focused on a Congressional committee. Now the Bush Administration and the CIA may or may not agree with the committee, the article doesn't say. The article is focused on a Congressional committee and to turn it into an anti-Bush story one has to spin it. Now it is also interesting that the critics of the committee are "UN nuclear watchdogs." Let's hope they are watching Tehran as close as they are watching Washington. I certainly hope they are right but have no reason to trust the UN any more than to trust the CIA. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Neil D Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Dig a bit deeper, Shane.... Quote: Dated Aug. 12, the letter was addressed to Rep. Peter Hoekstra (news, bio, voting record), chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. It was signed by Vilmos Cserveny, a senior director of the Vienna-based agency. Morning Edition, September 8, 2006 · Republican Peter Hoekstra, chair of the House Intelligence Committee, some times plays the staunch ally of the White House, defending terrorist detention practices, and NSA domestic surveillance. But he's also parted ways sharply with the Bush administration. A new committee report on Iran has just put Hoekstra back in the headlines. Quote: Now it is also interesting that the critics of the committee are "UN nuclear watchdogs." Let's hope they are watching Tehran as close as they are watching Washington. I certainly hope they are right but have no reason to trust the UN any more than to trust the CIA. Regarding the IAEA, that "Un nuclear watchdog"- U.N. inspectors investigating Iran's nuclear program angrily complained to the Bush administration and to a Republican congressman yesterday about a recent House committee report on Iran's capabilities, calling parts of the document "outrageous and dishonest" and offering evidence to refute its central claims. Officials of the United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency said in a letter that the report contained some "erroneous, misleading and unsubstantiated statements." The letter, signed by a senior director at the agency, was addressed to Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.), chairman of the House intelligence committee, which issued the report. A copy was hand-delivered to Gregory L. Schulte, the U.S. ambassador to the IAEA in Vienna. The IAEA openly clashed with the Bush administration on pre-war assessments of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Relations all but collapsed when the agency revealed that the White House had based some allegations about an Iraqi nuclear program on forged documents. After no such weapons were found in Iraq, the IAEA came under additional criticism for taking a cautious approach on Iran, which the White House says is trying to building nuclear weapons in secret. At one point, the administration orchestrated a campaign to remove the IAEA's director general, Mohamed ElBaradei. It failed, and he won the Nobel Peace Prize last year. Source: http://uslaboragainstwar.org/article.php?id=11623 I will let you draw your own conclusions... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
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