Dr. Shane Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 We can't legislate all morality. Well, I think the Puritains tried but it backfires. For example, they passed a law that a person needed to be a church member in order to run for public office. Instead of that law bringing purity into public office it brought corruption into the church. So legislators and members of a democracy have to decide which morality issues they want to legislate and which they want to leave upto the personal conscience. We may not outlaw the use of swear words but pass a law banning their use in advertising. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Administrators Naomi Posted October 19, 2006 Administrators Posted October 19, 2006 I wish we could outlaw them all ... but a ban in advertising would be good. OTOH, swear words differ in different cultures ... Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Neil D Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 Quote: Ummm, the words fair, just and good are words to describe what is moral. There is no getting away from it. Laws have their foundation in morality. There is a big difference between personal morality and public conformaty. The words 'fair and just " are words that describe comparing, or weighing out. There is no 'morality' in the eyes of the law, whether something is moral or not...No, there is a comparing of conformity of what is written to behavior. Justice is not moral. It is weighed against that conformity to what is already decided as good behavior. Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Dr. Shane Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 Good behavior = just = good = fair = right = morality A rose by any other name is still a rose. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Neil D Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 Good behavior = just = good = fair = right = morality A rose by any other name is still a rose. Rose =rose Correct. Good behavior = just = good = fair = right = morality Divide all by "good" and you get- behavior = just=fair=right=morality Which just isn't true by any mathmatical laws, rules or corollarys. The dictionary doesn't agree with you either. mo‧ral‧i‧ty [muh-ral-i-tee, maw-] 1. conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct. [color:#000000][ aka Morality= behavior + values(or rightness)] 2. moral quality or character. 3. virtue in sexual matters; chastity. 4. a doctrine or system of morals. 5. moral instruction; a moral lesson, precept, discourse, or utterance. be‧hav‧ior [bi-heyv-yer] 1. manner of behaving or acting. 2. Psychology, Animal Behavior. a. observable activity in a human or animal. b. the aggregate of responses to internal and external stimuli. c. a stereotyped, species-specific activity, as a courtship dance or startle reflex. 3. Often, behaviors. a behavior pattern. 4. the action or reaction of any material under given circumstances: the behavior of tin under heat. con‧duct 1. personal behavior; way of acting; bearing or deportment. 2. direction or management; execution: the conduct of a business. 3. the act of conducting; guidance; escort: The curator's conduct through the museum was informative. 4. Obsolete. a guide; an escort. –verb (used with object) 5. to behave or manage (oneself): He conducted himself well. 6. to direct in action or course; manage; carry on: to conduct a meeting; to conduct a test. 7. to direct (an orchestra, chorus, etc.) as leader. 8. to lead or guide; escort: to conduct a tour. 9. to serve as a channel or medium for (heat, electricity, sound, etc.): Copper conducts electricity. –verb (used without object) 10. to lead. 11. to act as conductor, esp. of a musical group. Dictionary.com Sorry, Shane, but the burden of proof rests upon you to show that conduct equal morality. But don't bother...We already know that your definitions are skewed somewhat already. Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Dr. Shane Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 Well, we know that regardless how many times we call a rose a tulip it doesn't make it so. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
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