bonnie1962 Posted July 2, 2023 Author Posted July 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hanseng said: How much time have you spent in China? None and have no plans to do so. I do read ,watch TV and that is enough for me to know it is not in my travel plans. Quote
Hanseng Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, bonnie1962 said: I do read ,watch TV and that is enough for me to know it is not in my travel plans. LOL Quote
bonnie1962 Posted July 2, 2023 Author Posted July 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Hanseng said: LOL I am assuming from your response that you believe I am operating under a false view of China. Rather than laughing out loud would you take the time to explain where you get what seems to be to your superior knowledge of China and the living conditions. Not I know a guy that knows a guy and he told me how great it is living in China. Perhaps you have or do live there. I don't know. But in view of your attitude you should be able to provide proof of the superior living conditions in China. Thanks Quote
Hanseng Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 10 hours ago, bonnie1962 said: Not I know a guy that knows a guy and he told me how great it is living in China. I apologize, Bonnie. LOL was an impolite response. The bloody history of anti-Asian violence in the West (nationalgeographic.com) Quote
bonnie1962 Posted July 3, 2023 Author Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Hanseng said: I apologize, Bonnie. LOL was an impolite response. The bloody history of anti-Asian violence in the West (nationalgeographic.com) We are not only on a different page but I think a completely different book. I am well aware of the unjustified hideous treatment of the chinese . That has nothing to do with the culture in china which is really off topic anyway. But it does bring up something I have always questioned concerning the reparations, racism, affirmative action topic. My ancestors were Scottish ,they were defeated by the english in 1650 ,many killed and the others captured and sold into white slavery. One of many events which deprived them of their extreme wealth and freedom. There still is a castle in Scotland that belonged to my ancestors and carries their name. So do I have a claim against the english, reparations or??. If not why not? The Jews have been persecuted, slaughtered and enslaved since biblical days. If any group of people that had been mistreated could be expected to riot, burn cities and demand special treatment it would be the Jews. Instead you find the opposite. The chinese a little different as they came voluntarily but still were abused and killed for simply being different. As a group again you do not find the rioting, burning cities and demanding special treatment and payment. I would love to have someone explain why my sons, absolutely no help, no money, only a willingness to work at whatever and do whatever it took to pay their own way should be expected to step aside for affirmative action because of their skin color. If everyone that applied for special consideration had the same drive, same motivation and same work ethic that my sons and many others had they would not need affirmative actions or reparations paid by people that never owned slaves to people that were never slaves Quote
bonnie1962 Posted July 3, 2023 Author Posted July 3, 2023 HIstory has always been a favorite topic of mine. The hardship that was the norm for most and compounded for the black community is something I don't think we can comprehend. I have read many histories of black individuals that that succeeded and thrived and received an education against impossible odds. They were not rioting and burning cities, altho it might have been understandable in the era they lived in. They would not have understood the word, affirmative action. I would never want to see those conditions again Many others of all skin color did the same. We have lost a lot of what made their success possible in this country. Now they need safe rooms in college so they don't hear something they don't like Quote
Hanseng Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, bonnie1962 said: That has nothing to do with the culture in china which is really off topic anyway. China is not off topic in a discussion pertaining to the demise of America. China has essentially none of the social problems that America has. People worry about war but all China has to do is sit back and wait. America will destroy itself. Long considered a land of liberty, liberty also provides evil people an opportunity to do evil things. Even the Bible says we shouldn't use our freedom to indulge our carnal desires; tragically, that's what is happening now. It's not only America. Rioting in France by people of color, N. Africans who were not assimilated into French culture, just like the Blacks in America. People of color, who do assimilate, such as the Chinese, don't have the kind of problems the Black community does. Some articles are now saying that systemic racism is the cause of the Black community's health problems. Just another example of the paternalism of the lefties and the refusal of people to take responsibility for their own problems. Black have well documented health issues because of their lifestyle, e.g., toxic diet leading to obesity, hypertension, cardiovascular problems, diabetes. The White man isn't forcing them to eat fried chicken and pork back and barbecued ribs. Reparation money will make KFC franchisees rich and then U. S. taxpayers will pick up the costs of the health care for those who are stuffing themselves with buckets of chicken. They'll blow through that reparation money like a bag of coke. What's really unfortunate is that some SDA people of color are making war on EGW. EGW's health writings would do more good for people of color than reparations. The situation is a mess on several fronts. Most likely, it will get worse, not better. Quote
bonnie1962 Posted July 3, 2023 Author Posted July 3, 2023 8 hours ago, Hanseng said: I personally think this post is very close to crosing a line. is not off topic in a discussion pertaining to the demise of America. Affirmative action is not a discussion pertaining to the demise of America. Wrong page here China has essentially none of the social problems that America has. Of course not, a quick bullet to the back of the head, social problem solved People worry about war but all China has to do is sit back and wait. America will destroy itself. Long considered a land of liberty, liberty also provides evil people an opportunity to do evil things. Even the Bible says we shouldn't use our freedom to indulge our carnal desires; tragically, that's what is happening now. It's not only America. Rioting in France by people of color, N. Africans who were not assimilated into French culture, just like the Blacks in America. People of color, who do assimilate, such as the Chinese, don't have the kind of problems the Black community does. Very true, I believe America will destroy itself, we are well on the way. That is hardly the fault of one group, one skin color. Many caucasians are doing their best to hasten the process worshipping at the altar of inclusiveness and diversity. The meaning of those two words can have wonderful results or what we are seeing now. Some articles are now saying that systemic racism is the cause of the Black community's health problems. Just another example of the paternalism of the lefties and the refusal of people to take responsibility for their own problems. Black have well documented health issues because of their lifestyle, e.g., toxic diet leading to obesity, hypertension, cardiovascular problems, diabetes. The White man isn't forcing them to eat fried chicken and pork back and barbecued ribs. White people wanting to be politically correct and other reasons are as guilty with the constant cry of systematic racism' nd the black community is the only one with health issues? Nor are they the only ones refusing to take responsibility for their own problems. I know plenty of overweight white people, my son as white as it gets, very healthy diet, not overweight, physically active, moutain hiking ,daily walks etc just had a near fatal heart attack. I have hypertension,not overweight and I enjoy fried chicken and barbecued ribs, less now the older I get. What caused my problem? Reparation money will make KFC franchisees rich and then U. S. taxpayers will pick up the costs of the health care for those who are stuffing themselves with buckets of chicken. They'll blow through that reparation money like a bag of coke. That is just plain insulting. US taxpayers pick up the tab for the costs of health care for every skin color. Whites are pretty big offenders in that area as well whether they eat fried chicken or not. What's really unfortunate is that some SDA people of color are making war on EGW. EGW's health writings would do more good for people of color than reparations. The situation is a mess on several fronts. Most likely, it will get worse, not better As are many white people. Following a healthy lifestyle would do more good for all. About the only thing I agree with is the situation is a mess on all fronts, such as drag queen show for our young children, the cult of transgenderism ,some of what is being taught in our schools, a whole host of issues But hardly unique to the black community Quote
Hanseng Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, bonnie1962 said: I know plenty of overweight white people, my son as white as it gets, very healthy diet, not overweight, physically active, mountain hiking, daily walks etc. just had a near fatal heart attack. Nobody with a cholesterol of less than 150 has a heart attack. I've heard the "My diet is fine" mantra They define "fine" as 3 big macs and a large fries followed by a pound of Oreos. Heart attacks aren't like a piano dropping on someone's head because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The pathophysiology is fairly clear. Coronary artery disease is a lifestyle illness, like most other conditions that kill Americans. Dr. Denis Burkitt, a Scottish missionary in Africa, was the one who publicized that Black people in Africa have practically none of the diseases which kill Americans. Then, utilizing his contacts as a missionary, he started gathering information from other physicians in developing countries. Denis Burkitt and the origins of the dietary fibre hypothesis - PubMed (nih.gov) Big Food has been poisoning Americans of every color. SDA were given a health message which not many follow. Those who don't reap what they sow. Of course not, a quick bullet to the back of the head, social problem solved That's right. The U.S. should try it. But the people prefer murder, rape, bank robbery, pedophilia, etc. Quote
bonnie1962 Posted July 3, 2023 Author Posted July 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Hanseng said: Nobody with a cholesterol of less than 150 has a heart attack. I've heard the "My diet is fine" mantra They define "fine" as 3 big macs and a large fries followed by a pound of Oreos. What does the last few posts have to do with anything affirmative action. There really is little point to continuing this topic with you. For the record I know my son, you do not. I know what his lifestyle and diet consist of. I also know what caused his heart attack Nearly 75% of patients hospitalized for a heart attack had cholesterol levels that would indicate they were not at high risk for a cardiovascular event, based on current national cholesterol guidelines12. Research has shown that about 75% of heart attack sufferers do not have dangerously high LDL levels3. Heart attacks aren't like a piano dropping on someone's head because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The pathophysiology is fairly clear. Coronary artery disease is a lifestyle illness, like most other conditions that kill Americans. You know absolutely nothing of my son or his lifestyle so your comments mean little except to show your arrogance Dr. Denis Burkitt, a Scottish missionary in Africa, was the one who publicized that Black people in Africa have practically none of the diseases which kill Americans. Then, utilizing his contacts as a missionary, he started gathering information from other physicians in developing countries. Again the affirmative action topic has nothing to do with black people in africa Big Food has been poisoning Americans of every color. SDA were given a health message which not many follow. Those who don't reap what they sow. At least that statement is a little more credible than previous ones. As for you believing my son reaped what he had sown, that is your opinion that is based on ignorance of my son and his lifestyle Of course not, a quick bullet to the back of the head, social problem solved That's right. The U.S. should try it. But the people prefer murder, rape, bank robbery, pedophilia, etc. This statement explains the rest of your posts. Instead of trying to turn this into your own personal topic, why not start your own and leave this to affirmative action. It would be much appreciated Quote
Hanseng Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, bonnie1962 said: 1 hour ago, bonnie1962 said: What does the last few posts have to do with anything affirmative action. There really is little point to continuing this topic with you. Bonnie, there are a number of comments in your last post which beg a reply; nevertheless, to provide a safe place for you, I'm going to withdraw from the discussion. Take care. Quote
bonnie1962 Posted July 3, 2023 Author Posted July 3, 2023 32 minutes ago, Hanseng said: Bonnie, there are a number of comments in your last post which beg a reply; nevertheless, , I'm going to withdraw from the discussion. Take care. Feel free to reply but start a new topic. The laying of all ills at the feet of one group because of affirmative action is getting tiresome. I am glad it was struck down, however that really doesn't have anything to do with health or how recipients would use reparations money. So spare me the sarcasm ,"to provide a safe place for you". I have never been known to need a safe place Quote
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