Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 19, 2023 Moderators Posted October 19, 2023 SDAs and military service: The following is a 51-minute video by Bill Cork of the North American Division that explores the history of the SDA Church and its relation to military service. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_8oRnWsimY Personal note: I consider Bill Cork to be a close personal friend. In researching the above, I discovered that the above video is only one of a number posted in the Internet related to the SDA Church. You may want to view some of those. Due to its already 51-minute length, Bill was probably unable to add additional material that I wish had been added. In his mention of the SDA Church under Hitler, I would have liked for him to mention the responsibility that what became the SDA Reform Movement had for the SDA support of Hitler. Another subject that he was unable to address was how the SDA Church came to support SDA clergy serving as military chaplains. Quote Gregory
Dr. Shane Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 I wish I had the time to watch the video. Maybe another day. I support Adventists joining the military in non-combat roles. I don't think one can join as a conscientious objector or non-combatant but one can choose a job that will dramatically decrease the chances of being combat. My son is considering joining the Navy as a diesel mechanic. My daughter wanted to join as a medical technician but she has prediabetes which makes it difficult. Now she is looking at joining AmeriCorps. I fully support civic service when a person is young. I served in the Army National Guard. Kevin H 1 Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 23, 2023 Author Moderators Posted October 23, 2023 I will make a couple of comments on Shane's post. * During the time that the U.S. had a draft, people were classified into three categories: 1-A: No restrictions, fully served in an armed capacity. 1-AO: Fully served, but not with a weapon. 1-O: Did not serve in the military. Served in a civilian capacity. * The function of the U.S. military is to go into combat. All members of the U.S. military can expect to serve in a combat position, and go into combat if the President sends the military into combat. * The U.S. military has the authority to allow someone to enlist who takes the 1-AO position. However, at the present time, with one exception, none of the U.S. military will allow someone to initially enlist (or become a commissioned officer) who takes the 1-AO position. IOW, it can be done, but it is not being done. * As the one exception, Clergy can become U. S. military chaplains who take the 1-AO position. I took that position. I served 20 years on active duty and additional time in a Reserve unit and in a National Guard unit. At all times in was formally in the 1-AO category. NOTE: The U.S. military may allow someone who has initially come on active duty in the 1-A position to later change to the 1-AO position and remain on active duty. Quote Gregory
Members phkrause Posted October 23, 2023 Members Posted October 23, 2023 11 hours ago, Gregory Matthews said: The U.S. military has the authority to allow someone to enlist who takes the 1-AO position. When I was in the army, '66-'68, we had a few guys that had joined with this statis!! Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 24, 2023 Author Moderators Posted October 24, 2023 They were probably either drafted, or they obtained it after they had enlisted and served for a while. Quote Gregory
Members phkrause Posted October 25, 2023 Members Posted October 25, 2023 22 hours ago, Gregory Matthews said: They were probably either drafted, or they obtained it after they had enlisted and served for a while. That could very well be, but I do remember reading something about that, that there was a time during Vietnam that they were in need of more medics, so they allowed joining for a two year term! Oh you know what maybe it was for joining that they allowed a 2 year term instead of having to join for a 3 year term and not for being 1-AO status?? Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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