hobie Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 Well, the President who says he strives for 'Peace', and safety is putting forth a new comprehensive plan to bring peace to the middle east. He is proposing an Israeli exit, with Arab troops coming in as peace keepers, and no Hamas in the picture. Here is the latest.. "President Donald Trump is preparing to present Arab and Muslim leaders with a US proposal to end the Gaza war and shape the territory's post-war governance, according to Axios. The meeting, set for Tuesday, will bring together officials from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Indonesia, and Pakistan. Trump has framed the initiative as an urgent attempt to end the war. "We must do everything possible to preserve the chance for peace," he said Monday, stressing that Washington wants to work closely with regional partners. According to US and Arab officials cited by Axios, the plan is expected to focus on three pillars: freeing hostages, negotiating an Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, and establishing post-war governance without Hamas involvement. The US also wants Arab and Muslim nations to contribute both military forces to stabilize the enclave and funding for reconstruction." Israeli exit, Arab troops, no Hamas: Trump to present Gaza peace plan phkrause 1 Quote
hobie Posted October 1, 2025 Author Posted October 1, 2025 Well here the rundown of Trumps Peace plan and it is gaining momentum even in the Arab countries... "Trump's 20-point Gaza peace plan in full Donald Trump's plan to end the war in Gaza has been accepted by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, while Hamas is yet to issue an official response. Here is the full text of the proposal, as provided by the White House: 1. Gaza will be a deradicalised terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbours. 2. Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough. 3. If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end. Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed upon line to prepare for a hostage release. During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended, and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal. 4. Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages, alive and deceased, will be returned. 5. Once all hostages are released, Israel will release 250 life sentence prisoners plus 1,700 Gazans who were detained after 7 October 2023, including all women and children detained in that context. For every Israeli hostage whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gazans. 6. Once all hostages are returned, Hamas members who commit to peaceful co-existence and to decommission their weapons will be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza will be provided safe passage to receiving countries. 7. Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will be immediately sent into the Gaza Strip. At a minimum, aid quantities will be consistent with what was included in the 19 January 2025 agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure (water, electricity, sewage), rehabilitation of hospitals and bakeries, and entry of necessary equipment to remove rubble and open roads. 8. Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza Strip will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies, and the Red Crescent, in addition to other international institutions not associated in any manner with either party. Opening the Rafah crossing in both directions will be subject to the same mechanism implemented under 19 January 2025 agreement. 9. Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee, responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza. This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the "Board of Peace," which will be headed and chaired by President Donald J. Trump, with other members and heads of state to be announced, including Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. This body will set the framework and handle the funding for the redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform programme, as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump's peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi-French proposal, and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza. This body will call on best international standards to create modern and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment. 10. A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energise Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East. Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well-meaning international groups, and will be considered to synthesize the security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity, and hope for future Gaza. Leaders in Middle East and Europe welcome Trump's Gaza peace plan Trump's Gaza plan is a significant step - but faces fundamental obstacles 11. A special economic zone will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries. 12. No one will be forced to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return. We will encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza. 13. Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role in the governance of Gaza, directly, indirectly, or in any form. All military, terror, and offensive infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, will be destroyed and not rebuilt. There will be a process of demilitarisation of Gaza under the supervision of independent monitors, which will include placing weapons permanently beyond use through an agreed process of decommissioning, and supported by an internationally funded buy back and reintegration programme all verified by the independent monitors. New Gaza will be fully committed to building a prosperous economy and to peaceful coexistence with their neighbours. 14. A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas, and the factions, comply with their obligations and that New Gaza poses no threat to its neighbours or its people. 15. The United States will work with Arab and international partners to develop a temporary International Stabilisation Force (ISF) to immediately deploy in Gaza. The ISF will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza, and will consult with Jordan and Egypt who have extensive experience in this field. This force will be the long-term internal security solution. The ISF will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border areas, along with newly trained Palestinian police forces. It is critical to prevent munitions from entering Gaza and to facilitate the rapid and secure flow of goods to rebuild and revitalize Gaza. A deconfliction mechanism will be agreed upon by the parties. 16. Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will withdraw based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors, and the United States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt, or its citizens. Practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF according to an agreement they will make with the transitional authority until they are withdrawn completely from Gaza, save for a security perimeter presence that will remain until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat. 17. In the event Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled-up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the IDF to the ISF. 18. An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful co-existence to try and change mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be derived from peace. 19. While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform programme is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognise as the aspiration of the Palestinian people. 20. The United States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous co-existence. Donald Trump's 20-point Gaza peace plan in full Quote
hobie Posted October 1, 2025 Author Posted October 1, 2025 It is better than what we have going on now, so it looks like its going to go forward as soon as Hamas accepts it. Thats the key roadblock.... Quote
Members phkrause Posted October 1, 2025 Members Posted October 1, 2025 ⚡️ Behind the scenes of Trump's Gaza plan President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House Monday. Photo: Demetrius Freeman/The Washington Post via Getty Images The seeds of the plan President Trump presented Monday to end the war in Gaza were planted three weeks earlier, when Israel bombed Qatar in a failed attempt to assassinate Hamas leaders, Axios' Barak Ravid reports. At first outraged by the strike and Israel's lack of consultation with Washington, Trump's advisers Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner soon saw the crisis as an opportunity to end the war. ⏱️ How it happened: Several days before the UN General Assembly, the Qataris proposed a summit in New York between Trump and the leaders of eight Arab and Muslim countries to discuss the Israeli strike on Qatar and the war in Gaza. During that meeting last Tuesday, the Arab and Muslim leaders took turns slamming Israel. After stressing his desire to end the war in Gaza, Trump turned to Witkoff: "Steve, tell them what you have been working on." By Wednesday night, the U.S. and the eight countries had reached a preliminary agreement on the text. Witkoff and Kushner sent it on to the Israelis. On Friday morning, Netanyahu gave a defiant speech at the UN. He didn't mention the Trump plan at all. But the meetings between Trump's team and the Israelis continued all weekend. On Saturday, a rumor spread among Trump's team that Netanyahu was planning to reject the plan, or at least demand sweeping changes. ? That led Trump to place a "stern and clear" call to Netanyahu, according to a source briefed on the conversation. "Trump told Bibi in no uncertain terms: 'Take it or leave it. And 'leave it' means we walk away from you," a source said, adding that when it comes to Netanyahu, "Donald Trump has had enough, for many reasons." Go deeper. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Members phkrause Posted October 5, 2025 Members Posted October 5, 2025 Hamas accepts parts of Trump peace plan Hamas said it would accept parts of President Trump's plan to end the war in Gaza, including the release of all remaining hostages. Trump gave Hamas an ultimatum earlier in the day — accept his deal by Sunday evening, or "all HELL, like no one has ever seen before, will break out against Hamas." Hamas' response amounts to a "Yes, but," Axios' Barak Ravid reports. It accepts parts of the Trump proposal, expresses readiness for technical negotiations on some parts and calls for political negotiations on other parts. Go deeper. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Members phkrause Posted December 28, 2025 Members Posted December 28, 2025 Zelenskyy says he’s open to creating demilitarized zone in Ukraine’s industrial heartland KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he would be willing to withdraw troops from the country’s eastern industrial heartland as part of a plan to end Russia’s war, if Moscow also pulls back and the area becomes a demilitarized zone monitored by international forces. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-peace-plan-d0c476bfa9ec218da5c8d5ff0c1d25c9? Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
hobie Posted December 29, 2025 Author Posted December 29, 2025 On 10/4/2025 at 9:35 PM, phkrause said: Hamas accepts parts of Trump peace plan Hamas said it would accept parts of President Trump's plan to end the war in Gaza, including the release of all remaining hostages. Trump gave Hamas an ultimatum earlier in the day — accept his deal by Sunday evening, or "all HELL, like no one has ever seen before, will break out against Hamas." Hamas' response amounts to a "Yes, but," Axios' Barak Ravid reports. It accepts parts of the Trump proposal, expresses readiness for technical negotiations on some parts and calls for political negotiations on other parts. Go deeper. Well, it seems this is locked up with no path from both sides... "Rubio: ‘Not going to have peace’ if Hamas can threaten Israel Responding to reports that Hamas may be willing to partially disarm, handing over heavy weaponry but keeping its small arms, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said peace will never happen if the group has the capability to “threaten or attack Israel.” Rubio: ‘Not going to have peace’ if Hamas can threaten Israel | Israel-Palestine conflict | Al Jazeera Quote
hobie Posted December 29, 2025 Author Posted December 29, 2025 On 12/27/2025 at 8:52 PM, phkrause said: Zelenskyy says he’s open to creating demilitarized zone in Ukraine’s industrial heartland KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he would be willing to withdraw troops from the country’s eastern industrial heartland as part of a plan to end Russia’s war, if Moscow also pulls back and the area becomes a demilitarized zone monitored by international forces. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-peace-plan-d0c476bfa9ec218da5c8d5ff0c1d25c9? This one is liable to lead to even further war if these 'guarantees' are put in like the ones which brought about WWI and WWII.... "US offers Ukraine 15-year security guarantee as part of peace plan, Zelenskyy says KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The United States is offering Ukraine security guarantees for a period of 15 years as part of a proposed peace plan, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Monday, though he said he would prefer an American commitment of up to 50 years to deter Russia from further attempts to seize its neighbor’s land by force...." US offers Ukraine 15-year security guarantee as part of peace plan, Zelenskyy says Quote
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