looking for wisdom here

[Stan]

How to deal with rude people and 'drive-by shooters'?

And how to fund this,  take about $100 a month, is all, we are getting under $10 a month regularly.

Input appreciated a lot

Stan

To PayPal funds here. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist

to Zelle stanjensen@mac.com or to Interac stanjensen@mac, same address, different countries,

[Gustave]

Stan, pm me an address to send a donation to - I'm hesitant to these electronic cash transfer sites.

I'd run the other direction from the Amazing Facts folks given their anti-trinitarian stance. 

{Sran, if you do not want to publish to the world your mail address, give it to me and ask that I privately give it to Gustave-GM.]

[Hanseng]

If a person goes to ProPublica and does a little research, he/she will discover that the principals of two popular Adventist websites draw annual salaries in the $50,000  range. Both these entities have assets of~$600,000. One entity received  ~$350,000 dollars in contributions in 2024, paid out ~$85,000 to its employees. The other received ~$440,000 in contributions, paid out ~ $100,000 in compensation and wages.

 

I'm not suggesting that there is anything wrong, inappropriate, or shady  with these numbers, just wondering why ClubAdventist takes in ~10 dollars a month while these other media outlets take in thousands.

[Joe Knapp]

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What if someone like Ron Kelly or Conrad Vine hosted ClubAdventist? You'd likely see an immediate and near miraculous transformation. 

Controversy does bring crowds. 

6 minutes ago, Hanseng said:

Both these entities have assets of~$600,000. One entity received  ~$350,000 dollars in contributions in 2024, paid out ~$85,000 to its employees. The other received ~$440,000 in contributions, paid out ~ $100,000 in compensation and wages.

Which ones are they? 

Where do they get their money?  Individual contributions? 

[Gregory Matthews]

Keep in mind that the central purpose of Club Adventist is to provide a place for people of differing views to discuss them in a civil manner.  This generally involves a comparison of differing views.  So, yes, we do address LGBTQ issues.  However, we do ask that such discussion do not use adverse language in reference to such people.  God loves all persons including LGBTQ people.  On a personal basis, I am probably a bit more conservative than you might think.  I welcome civil discussion here on all issues.   

[Hanseng]

Chaplain Matthews,

I believe I owe you an apology, in light of your previous post. It was never my intent to  comment on your personal preferences. Perhaps I understood one or more of your posts to be promoting an agenda which I abhor i.e., homosexuality; consequently, I took an extreme position against it and you personally. For that I am sorry.  

[Gregory Matthews]

Hanseng:  You are gracious,  I have sent you a private response.

{February 19, 2026   Hanseng, I appreciate the gracious conversation you have had with me over the past few weeks.  As a result, I have removed a post that  i made here in response to you.  Glad to have you posting here and also the relationship that you and I now have.  Gregory Matthews.]

[Hanseng]

On 8/22/2023 at 7:59 AM, phkrause said:

Exclusive: Beijing's school for authoritarianism

Not sure what happened here but this post is a mistake

 

[Hanseng]

On 10/24/2025 at 1:47 AM, Stan said:

drive-by shooters

Many years ago, I reported to the police an old acquaintance who was involved in the heroin trade. I felt a bit guilty for betraying him, so I told him what I had done. One evening, I was walking along a dark street and a carload of guys. with him in the car, drove by real slow, taking a look at me.  I  reached into the pocket of the oversize coat I was wearing; they drove away. Bluffing might be option when dealing with potential or actual drive by shooters. I was lucky that night.