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This is a question I've asked off of this forum, but I'd like to hear more opinions....

Since God is the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, has always *been* and always will *be*....but He is not bound by time (and I do not believe He is), then could it be possible for GOD (not us) to be present in a time past? While we experience God as being in the *now* - could He also be in the past? Could HE be watching Jesus being baptized? Or be seeing Martin Luther nailing the 95Theses to the door? ....Or could He be in the future? Because the Bible *does* say, does it not, that our days were reckoned before we were ever born?

So.....what think you??? whatsign.gif

And another thing.....do you think angels are bound by time?

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[thinkingaloud][possiblyillogically]If God could be in the past, witnessing Jesus' baptism, for example, then He could also be in my own personal tomorrow. But, if He's in my own personal tomorrow--then, I must be there too.[/possiblyillogically][/thinkingaloud]

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Hi Pam,

God is infinite. He is not bound by space or time. Because He is infinite, He is present in the past as well as the present, and in the future. He 'was, and is, and is to come, the Almighty.' We, as created, corporeal beings, are confined to occupying only one point in space-time at a given moment of time. We cannot comprehend an infinite God.

Dave

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But, if He's in my own personal tomorrow--then, I must be there too.[/possiblyillogically][/thinkingaloud]

Sounds logical... And we could already be in heaven, and not realize it. I'm not being satirical.

Angel are God's messangers. So they might not be bound by time since they travel from His presence in the eternal now to our presence in the temporal now.

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God must transend time if he can know our ends before we are born.

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I think of time like a book. Consider that God is holding the book and can flip to any page He wish. Yet, if he is looking at page 84 He still hears the prayers and cares of all the people on all the other pages.

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This is a question I've asked off of this forum, but I'd like to hear more opinions....

Since God is the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, has always *been* and always will *be*....but He is not bound by time (and I do not believe He is), then could it be possible for GOD (not us) to be present in a time past? While we experience God as being in the *now* - could He also be in the past? Could HE be watching Jesus being baptized? Or be seeing Martin Luther nailing the 95Theses to the door? ....Or could He be in the future? Because the Bible *does* say, does it not, that our days were reckoned before we were ever born?

So.....what think you??? whatsign.gif

And another thing.....do you think angels are bound by time?

That's true about God, yes. That's why 2 Peter 3:8 says that with God a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. He is the Eternal, the One who is beyond time, and knows all the details about both the future and the past. Other verses that teach this are James 1: 17; Mal. 3:6; and Is. 44:7. For Him it is in some respects as if the future already happened-- since all things with Him are as one eternal present-- and yet when things happen in the present, God still experiences them as the present.

This should give us pause because we might think that our sins are forgotten simply by virtue of the passage of time, but we need to consider the fact that nothing at all is really forgotten by God. He forgives us and doesn't hold those sins against us, but in the judgment they will all be brought forth to testify against us if we are lost.

While angels are not bound by the same physical laws as we are, they are not Eternal in the sense that God is. For instance, they cannot be in two places or in two time periods at once, as God the Father can. Also, unlike God, angels have a beginning and 1/3 of them will have an end. Jesus Christ has voluntarily laid aside certain powers and characteristics because for our sakes He is forever a man as well as God. So Jesus Himself personally is limited to being in one place at a time, although through the Holy Spirit He can be everywhere at once.

John 3:16-17

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

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We don't really have much information about the physical characteristics, if any, of God. We do have the beliefs that God is everywhere simultaneously, that God knows everything, that God can do anything, etc.

God is apparently an entity that somehow knows the future. Either he exists in the future and occasionally sends messages to our past via his messengers who are already here, or, he sends his messengers back in time. Maybe the Holy Spirit has something to do with this. What is a spirit, anyway?

If God exists in the present, he must have some way to see the future.

Sometimes I think things didn't turn out very good in the future, say, maybe evil triumphed and good was all but destroyed. God sends his messengers back in time to make a few changes to ensure that good triumphs and evil is destroyed.

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