Cant Buy or Sell, how will they implement it?

[hobie]

Well we had a eye opening enforcement during the Covid19 spread. During the COVID-19 "zero-Covid" lockdowns in China , residents in cities like Wuhan, Xi'an, and Guiyang were put under severe restrictions that prevented them from buying food, medicine, and necessities, or selling goods. During the COVID-19 pandemic, China implemented a nationwide system of color-coded health apps on citizens' mobile phones to control movement and restrict any purchase or selling by the person or persons. These systems functioned as a digital "good citizen certificate" which determined whether an individual could buy goods, use transportation, or enter buildings, so it was a complete social enforcement. Here is some background..

"Wang Yu, hailed by the U.S. as an International Woman of Courage, has already been arrested, imprisoned and harassed by the Chinese Communist Party for her work as a human rights lawyer representing activists, Uyghur scholars and Falun Gong practitioners. Now, her movements within her home country have been restricted by a color-coded app on her phone that’s supposed to protect people from COVID-19.

The app and its color codes have become ubiquitous in China as the country has struggled to contain the coronavirus, pushing the public to a breaking point that resulted in protests over COVID restrictions late last month. The government announced last week that it would discontinue the national color-coded health app, but cities and provinces have their own versions, which have been more dominant. In Beijing last week, restaurants, offices, hotels and gyms were still requiring approved color codes to enter.

Drawing on telecommunications network data and PCR test results, the app is relatively simple. Everyone is assigned a QR code on their phone that switches between green, yellow and red, depending on factors such as whether they’ve been in the same spot as someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 (yellow) or if they themselves have tested positive (red). Only people with green codes can go about normal daily life." https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-12-20/china-covid-health-apps-tool-social-political-control

[Joe Knapp]

32 More Countries Will Stop Stamping Passports In 2026

https://www.traveloffpath.com/32-more-countries-will-stop-stamping-passports-in-2026/

 

[phkrause]

23 hours ago, Joe Knapp said:

32 More Countries Will Stop Stamping Passports In 2026

That's not a bad thing? Is it?

[Joe Knapp]

Well they are moving to a China model of all electronic information. If you misbehave in China they can easily punish you with a few clicks. That will prevent you from boarding a high speed train, airplane, and other places. 

In Canada, when the truckers protested, the government froze their bank accounts and canceled their insurance.  

It's a move to a place where the government can control the populations and suppress speech. 

[Joe Knapp]

On 4/23/2026 at 3:50 AM, hobie said:

Wang Yu, hailed by the U.S. as an International Woman of Courage, has already been arrested, imprisoned and harassed by the Chinese Communist Party for her work as a human rights lawyer representing activists, Uyghur scholars and Falun Gong practitioners. Now, her movements within her home country have been restricted by a color-coded app on her phone that’s supposed to protect people from COVID-19.

This is that electronic control they are all moving to. 

[Kevin H]

Sadly our current administration is going full speed at developing ways of making it difficult if not impossible for people to buy or sell. We are living in a time where you don't need much imagination to see the idea of enforced religion (we tend to limit out eyesight to the specific application of Sunday Laws in and of themselves, and miss the big picture of what Mrs. White predicted: However, today even the idea of the application of Sunday Laws does not seem far fetched, but we still need to look at the larger picture. I'm sure that Satan has a way to sneek past us if we limit ourselves to the application and example instead of the larger principle.) 

[Challenger]

I believe Satan has already snuck around Christians of all faiths, not to mention unbelievers as well. I believe the reason for this is that few individuals understand the trumpet judgments of Rev.8 and 9. Satan started his deception in the third century leading early Historicist expositor to interpret the trumpets starting 395 - 419 A.D., and involved conflict between the Goths and Western Rome. Adventist believe the seventh sounded in 1844, and continues until the new earth is established after the millennium. These beliefs lacks any valid hermeneutics supporting such teachings, and are taught by our church to this day. Should you believe that age makes error into truth you need not read further…………………..However, if truth does matter to you, it can be easy refuted by the following valid hermeneutic. Each apocalyptic prophecy has a beginning and ending point in time, and each event within that prophecy is given by God, in its chronological order. This hermeneutic was not revealed to early expositors, However, the Holy Spirit has revealed it as we get closer to closing events. The validity of this law can be validated by reasoning and fulfillment. Reasoning: Since God is the author of apocalyptic prophecy and knows the beginning from the end, He has given us the events within each prophecy in their chronological order as proof of His divinity.  Fulfillment:  Historical facts prove the chronology within all fulfilled apocalyptic prophecy to date. Examples, Dan. 2, 7, 8 and 9,  proves that chronology is a natural law that God used when He gave us these prophecies.

If you can except these facts, and willing also to put your trust in the Bible and Bible only, then prophecy proves the trumpet judgement are yet future. Note the following chronology in Rev. 8:2-7,  Vs.1, Seven angels are given seven trumpets.  Vss. 2-4) The angel at the altar of incense places his last offering on the altar of incense. Vs. 5, The angel then cast the censor to earth, ending corporate atonement for mankind, as Jesus calls for it to end, on earth there follows, peals of thunder, flashes of lighting, and an earthquake. Vs. 6, the seven angles prepare to sound their trumpets. Vs. 7, The first angel sounds his trumpet. Is there any doubt in your mind that these events are in their correct chronological order, revealed to John by God, having all foreknowledge? Yes or No.

Do you find it unsettling that our early church fathers moved verse 3-5 out of their chronological order based on logic? Please consider the following, (SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 7, pg. 787) “According to the view that Seventh- day Adventists have favored, the cessation of the angel’s ministry at the altar of incense is symbolic of the end of the ministration of Christ for mankind-the close of probation, the voices, thunderings, lightnings, and earthquake that ensue when the angel cast the censer into the earth describe events to take place at the end of the seventh trumpet, following the opening of the temple (ch. 11:19);…”Some prefer to see ch. 8:3-5, not so much in its chronological as in its logical, relationship to the seals and trumpets.”

 This is precisely why we must follow valid laws on interpretation to rule out one’s bias. Since this prophecy clearly reveals that when the service at the altar of incense in heaven is terminated, there will be  world wide, “ peals of thunder, flashes of  lightnings, and an earthquake,” for ALL must be made aware. And God has, to the extent that He has purposely linked the end of the heavenly event to literal manifestations here on earth. He has done this because we cannot see into heaven, but when these manifestations happen globally, those understanding apocalyptic prophecy will understand that the service at the altar of incense has terminated. Since we understand these manifestations to be literal, but have yet to be witnessed worldwide as historical fact, We have to conclude by faith, based on God’s word that this service has not been terminated, thus the trumpet judgments are yet future, and the first trumpet did not sound from 395-419 A.D. as third century scholars believed, and we as Adventist still teach today.  

Why is this important for us to acknowledge our misunderstanding today? Because based on our present interpretation of the trumpets opening 631 centuries ago, the timing is not supported by the valid law of chronology. They served no purpose in warning those living centuries before the close of probation.  Even as Adventist we give them little or no consideration at all today.  As it is, we do not understand that the 1st trumpet will burn up 1/3 of the earths vegetation, destroy 1/3 of our sea life, and a third of the ships in the ocean hit by an asteroid according to the 2nd trumpet. That 1/3 of our drinking water will be contaminated by another asteroid striking a continent during the 3rd trumpet. And the 4th trumpet due to the ash and smoke from the three previous trumpets will restrict 1/3 of the light we receive from the sun and moon. This will undoubtedly cause world wide famine since crops will not reach maturity. This famine is what Satan will use to force people to except his mark inter right hand of forehead (Rev.13:15-18) We and the rest of the world will think of these as natural disasters. But this will be a terrible misunderstanding which Satan has been promoting, as he does not want mankind to know that the trumpets are God’s judgements, warning us of the close of probation and a time when the living will be tested of their faith in Christ, or lack thereof.

Too, if one lives to witness the trumpets, life will get harder as each one sounds, one should know that when the fifth one sounds Satan and his angels are released from the abyss/spirit realm and he will come as a angel of light an imposter of Christ, the greatest deception of all time. If we understand the trumpets correctly we will not be deceived, but rather our faith will grow stronger as each one sounds during earths darkest hour. 

Closing Thought: Their are many theories of how the Mark of the Beast will be implemented, none factor in Gods first four literal trumpet judgments which are designed to put the world in survival mode so that all of mankind will give heed to the three angles messages and be saved. When one understands correctly the first four trumpet judgements then Rev. 13: 15-18 makes sense as it reads, since modern technology will be of no avail when most of our electrical grid will be destroyed. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Joe Knapp]

13 hours ago, Challenger said:

Too, if one lives to witness the trumpets, life will get harder as each one sounds

I don't believe people will change at that point. Their hearts are already hardened. 

13 hours ago, Challenger said:

one should know that when the fifth one sounds Satan and his angels are released from the abyss/spirit realm

I have a hard time with this. This assumes the evil angels are somehow contained then released. I do not believe that is the case. I believe evil spirits now roam the earth freely constrained only from God's people.