hobie Posted Saturday at 10:20 PM Posted Saturday at 10:20 PM The false doctrine of Universalism teaches that all people will be saved, that a good and loving God would not allow any to perish. They declare or hold that God's love is so great that every human soul will eventually achieve salvation and reconciliation, viewing any post-mortem punishment as temporary and purifying rather than eternal. Early roots trace back to thinkers like Origen of Alexandria in the 3rd century, and it developed as an organized movement in the 18th century from those roots, and we see in the idea that after a cleansing period they can get a pass and all reach salvation. They come up with many false ideas of how this can happen, such as this one from the false doctrine of Purgatory and from many others, where God will somehow free sinners and let them get to heaven, or that there will be multiple raptures so that people will have another opportunity to choose God or another path to Him. So you get a lie turned into a false belief called Universalism. But the Bible doesnt teach this, it tells us clearly there is only one path and shows not all will choose it... John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. And He will separate the sheep (saints) from the goats (wicked) at His coming... Matthew 25:32-34 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: And only the saints will be taken to heaven to be in the Kingdom where Christ has prepared a place for them... John 14:1-3 1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. So we see that the Kingdom is only for the saints, the chosen, the elect, but the Bible also calls them a remnant... Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ And we find the following also... Romans 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: So not all shall be saved as many will choose the world rather than Christ, and stay in bondage to the adversary. Quote
hobie Posted Saturday at 10:24 PM Author Posted Saturday at 10:24 PM The Seventh-day Adventist Church teaches that God’s justice and mercy are both real, and that the wicked will not get into heaven but will face eternal separation from God. And we know clearly that Ellen G. White did not teach universal salvation, but she addressed “universalism” in historical and theological contexts, warning against it as a distortion of biblical truth while affirming God’s love and the hope of all being reconciled to Him through Christ. And we this Ellen White’s commentary found within a historical survey of “Restorationism” (the belief that all souls will ultimately be saved) which basically became known as universalism, from Leroy Froom in 'The Conditionalist Faith of Our Fathers, vol. 2': "V. Upsurge of Universalism in Colonial and Early National America A brief portrayal has already been given of the Old World post-Reformation revival of Restorationism, since Reformation times usually called Universalism. It is now essential to trace its paralleling relationship in Colonial and early national America, with its significant and subsequent developments. Back in 1636, Sir Henry Vane, former member of the British Parliament and governor of Massachusetts, acknowledged himself to be a Universalist. Then in July, 1684, Joseph Gatchell, of Marblehead, Massachusetts, was brought before the county court for teaching that “all men should be saved.” He was convicted of the teaching charged, and “sentenced ‘to the pillory and to have his tongue drawn forth and pierced with a hot iron.’” Those seem to be the earliest appearances in the seventeenth century. In the eighteenth century, in 1741, Dr. George de Bonneville came from London to preach Universalism throughout the Eastern seaboard, and had Universalist Siegvolk’s Everlasting Gospel published over here. In Episcopal ranks, Richard Clarke, in Charleston, South Carolina, and John Tyler, of Norwich, Connecticut, were pronounced advocates. And Congregationalist Dr. Jonathan Mayhew, of Boston, avowed it in 1762. Then former Wesleyan James Relly’s book on Universalism was reprinted in Boston in 1779 and in Providence in 1782. But shortly before this an anonymous pamphlet appeared against Universalism, likewise in Charleston, South Carolina, in 1759; another in Altona, by Basedow, in 1763; and then a third by Croswell, at Boston, in 1775. And there were counterattacks. Thus the battle of pens was under way. 1. UNIVERSALISM GATHERS MOMENTUM IN NINETEENTH CENTURY But it was Bostonian Dr. Charles Chauncy’s The Salvation of All Men (1784) that created the sensation. He had a profound conviction as to the divine management of the universe. Then in 1770 Methodist John Murray widely proclaimed Universalism, and in 1779 organized a society of Universalists in Massachusetts under the name of The Independent Christian Church. Next, in 1781 Baptist Elhanan Winchester organized a Universalist society, taking the name Universal Baptists. Even among the Dunkers, or German Baptists, at Ephrata, Pennsylvania, Universalism was agitated. Also in New Jersey several Baptist preachers and their congregations became Universalist. And in Pennsylvania Abel Sarjent started the Free Universal Magazine. Restorationism was definitely under way in North America. The Reverend Hosea Ballou, of Vermont, originally a Baptist, but becoming a Universalist preacher in 1790, started the Restorationist Association. He also produced The Ancient History of Universalism (1829), and by 1830 his views were rather extensively held. But this Restorationist Association terminated about 1841, and its organ, The Independent Christian Messenger, ceased publication. So there were ups and downs, but the agitation continued. 2. BATTLE OF BOOKS OVER UNIVERSALISM Prior to the appearance of Universalism, as outlined, the absolute eternity of Hell punishment was almost universally held, with predestinarian Calvinism predominant. Now a barrage of books for and against the upsurging Universalism poured forth for more than half a century. " https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/955.1748 Quote
Asia Joe Posted Sunday at 01:09 PM Posted Sunday at 01:09 PM 14 hours ago, hobie said: The false doctrine of Universalism teaches that all people will be saved, that a good and loving God would not allow any to perish. I knew an Adventist who had this view. We had many discussions. He believed Cain would be saved. I never knew there was a name for it. Quote
Gustave Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago I realize that some individuals may hold this teaching but seriously, what denomination boasts universalem. Quote
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