Moderators lazarus Posted February 20, 2007 Moderators Posted February 20, 2007 I was skeptical about Hillary's candidacy but I've now come to the solid conclusion that barring, accidents politcal and otherwise, assasinations, a nuclear attack on New York, DC and LA she will be the next President of the USA. IMHO. Definition of Shoe-in A race horse so fast that you can merely shoo it across the finish line rather than having to urge it on with stronger measures is a “shoo-in”: an easy winner. It is particularly unfortunate when this expression is misspelled “shoe-in” because to “shoehorn” something in is to squeeze it in with great difficulty. Check out this too..... NEW YORK A new Gallup survey confirms that Americans claim they will be willing to vote for a woman (read: Hillary Clinton) or a black (read: Barack Obama) for president next year. But they still raise questions about voting for a well-qualified Mormon (Mitt Romney) or 72-year-old (John McCain) or someone who has been divorced twice (Rudy Giuliani). Surprisingly, nearly as many say they would vote for a homosexual (55%) as say they would vote for a 72-year-old (57%). http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003547514 Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Moderators John317 Posted February 21, 2007 Moderators Posted February 21, 2007 I was skeptical about Hillary's candidacy but I've now come to the solid conclusion that barring, accidents politcal and otherwise, assasinations, a nuclear attack on New York, DC and LA she will be the next President of the USA. IMHO. Definition of Shoe-in A race horse so fast that you can merely shoo it across the finish line rather than having to urge it on with stronger measures is a ?shoo-in?: an easy winner. It is particularly unfortunate when this expression is misspelled ?shoe-in? because to ?shoehorn? something in is to squeeze it in with great difficulty. Check out this too..... NEW YORK A new Gallup survey confirms that Americans claim they will be willing to vote for a woman (read: Hillary Clinton) or a black (read: Barack Obama) for president next year. But they still raise questions about voting for a well-qualified Mormon (Mitt Romney) or 72-year-old (John McCain) or someone who has been divorced twice (Rudy Giuliani). Surprisingly, nearly as many say they would vote for a homosexual (55%) as say they would vote for a 72-year-old (57%). http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003547514 You're right about her being the Democratic candidate but I doubt she wins the general election. The polls show that there are large numbers of people who wouldn't vote for her no matter what. The only way she could win is if tens of millions of women vote for the first time. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
David Koot Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 I don't know that all the women you are referring to, John317, would necessarily vote for Hillary. And, indeed, many people in this country would see a Hillary presidency as a disaster of the first magnitude. Quote
Moderators John317 Posted February 21, 2007 Moderators Posted February 21, 2007 I don't know that all the women you are referring to, John317, would necessarily vote for Hillary. And, indeed, many people in this country would see a Hillary presidency as a disaster of the first magnitude. That's true. All I am saying is that I think the only way she could win is if millions of women register to vote just in order to vote for Hillary. In other words, whether she wins would probably depend on if she can get out a lot the women's vote in very large numbers, and if Rudy Giuliani-- who I think will be the Republican candidate-- doesn't get a lot of democratic men to vote for him. I pick Giuliani to win the whole thing, but watch that lack of hair. If history is any indication, the candidate with the most hair has usually won, believe or not. In this case, of course, that would be Hillary. Personally, I hope Giuliani in 2008 proves to be an exception to that rule. Giuliani is Catholic. I voted once before for a Catholic, that one named John Kennedy, when I was in sixth grade. There were only two of us in my class that took a liking to John. The teacher later announced the results, "Nixon won. Two smart-alecs voted for Kennedy." It was Loma Linda Elementary and the teacher's name: Hixon. (The Principle: Robert "Vaughn Allen" Gale. A good man. Google "Vaughn Allen".) Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Moderators John317 Posted February 21, 2007 Moderators Posted February 21, 2007 I would never vote for Hillary. Me neither. I'm not really happy with any of the likely candidates but that's always the case. I usually end up voting for the least awful, the one I think will do the least amount of damage. Not sure who that is yet but I know it ain't Hillary. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Clio Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Seen on the reader-board of a KFC in Dallas Texas: Hillary Special - 2 Fat Thighs, small breast, and a left wing. Quote A heart where He alone has first place.
Moderators John317 Posted February 21, 2007 Moderators Posted February 21, 2007 Seen on the reader-board of a KFC in Dallas Texas: Hillary Special - 2 Fat Thighs, small breast, and a left wing. A friend of mine says he went to the theater the other day, and someone in the audience called Hillary a bad name and everyone laughed. I don't think these sorts of things are a good sign for her. I think she carries too much negative baggage to win. There are large numbers of voters who say they wouldn't vote for her no matter who the opposing candidate is. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
there buster Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Although I cannot imagine voting for Hillary, I don't endorse that particular type of humor. It smacks of the type of meanness that has cartoonists picturing Bush as a chimpanzee. Such humor only polarizes and stirs up her supporters. When a candidate becomes the object of genuine amusement, their campaign is usually finished. One such, from my youth, was about Barry Goldwater. Based on the perception that he was out-of-date, the story went around that Goldwater's biography was being filmed by 19th Century Fox. On the other side, when Dukakis rode around in the tank, his campaign went in the tank. To work, a political joke must reinforce an existing impression about the candidate, without seeming mean-spirited to supporters. I doubt if that's actually possible in today's highly polarized environment. Having said that, Hillary has such a high profile, and such an identifiable set of characteristics, that she is particularly vulnerable to parody. And fair or not, she carries all of her husband's baggage. As polarizing as she is personally, she offers the opportunity for the opposition to nominate someone who is perceived as a uniter. The Dems have traded responsible policy for temporary political advantage. They have sown the wind. The whirlwind harvest will come, and all those who embrace those positions -- and those leaders will reap it. I just hope it is an electoral one, not a terrorist nuclear strike. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell
Moderators John317 Posted February 21, 2007 Moderators Posted February 21, 2007 One such, from my youth, was about Barry Goldwater. Based on the perception that he was out-of-date, the story went around that Goldwater's biography was being filmed by 19th Century Fox. Yeah I remember him well. I was only in the 8th grade but I liked him and went to see him at the Swing Auditorium at San Bernardino. Ronald Reagan gave a great introductory speech for Goldwater. Better than Goldwater's speech. I had fun painting Goldwater signs all over Loma Linda. One faded sign is still there today near the old hospital. You no doubt remember the ad against Goldwater saying he would cause WW3 with a nuclear bomb? LBJ's lies. One thing he knew how to do that LBJ was play hard ball. That did Goldwater in for sure. Quote: To work, a political joke must reinforce an existing impression about the candidate, without seeming mean-spirited to supporters. I doubt if that's actually possible in today's highly polarized environment. But back in the Goldwater days they didn't mind a mean-spirited joke. I felt that ad about the nuclear bomb was pretty mean but it sure got the job done. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Amelia Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I too wont vote for Ms Clinton for various reasons. And I will admit that I'm just not sure what she is trying to prove with her "power" pantsuits and that has me leery. Has she and the hubby ever been seen together since leaving the white house? Bill and Hilary - The early years Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Moderators Bravus Posted February 22, 2007 Moderators Posted February 22, 2007 For many of the reasons people have stated, I very much hope the Dems don't make the mistake of nominating Hillary Clinton. The US is in desparate need of a change of government, and in the present climate the only way that's not going to happen is if the Dems shoot themselves in the foot (again). Quote Truth is important
Moderators John317 Posted February 22, 2007 Moderators Posted February 22, 2007 Has she and the hubby ever been seen together since leaving the white house? Yes, they have but it is usually staged for political advantages. Everyone who knows anything knows that if Hillary wins, it will be due to Bill's vast political talent and knowledge and that once in the White House, we will see both Clintons on TV every night. Hillary will be lecturing America and Bill will be back doing the thing he was born to do. He's a natural; she's not. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Dr. Shane Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Well my vote isn't cast. Given the right circumstances I could vote for Hillary OR I could vote for Newt Gingrich. So I really have my options open. I am not so sure Hillary would be a disaster. She would have practically no learning curve. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Moderators lazarus Posted February 23, 2007 Author Moderators Posted February 23, 2007 Given the right circumstances I could vote for Hillary OR I could vote for Newt Gingrich. So I really have my options open. I am not so sure Hillary would be a disaster. She would have practically no learning curve. Hmmm Shane, I'm concerned! Hillary or Gingrich. Thats like Alan Keys or Obama! Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Woody Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Quote: Thats like Alan Keys or Obama! Laz ... the difference between these two is that one is white and one is black. !!! I will let you guess which is which. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Dr. Shane Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Quote: Hillary or Gingrich. Thats like Alan Keys or Obama! It all has to do with who they are running against. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Moderators lazarus Posted February 23, 2007 Author Moderators Posted February 23, 2007 Laz ... the difference between these two is that one is white and one is black. !!! Here's one of those instances where I wonder whether I am supposed to laugh or take you seriously. I hope i'm supposed to laugh! Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Clio Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Although I cannot imagine voting for Hillary, I don't endorse that particular type of humor. It smacks of the type of meanness that has cartoonists picturing Bush as a chimpanzee. Such humor only polarizes and stirs up her supporters. I don't particularly care for that type of humor either... what I find interesting is that this type of humor is beginning to surface rather ubiquitously, and specifically with regard to Hillary. A shoe-in? I don't think she is... I think she is going to have to work really hard to win the election. If indeed she can win the election. I was very surprised to see it on a reader-board in the south, and on one where customers could easily vent their displeasure by going to the local chicken competition.... Chick-fil-a, Church's chicken, Popeye's chicken..... Quote A heart where He alone has first place.
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