Gas Prices rising. What will you do?

[Denise]

Good evening David! So you had some of the best tasting maters too?! They have some great maters here! The only thing I don't like about plantingn a garden is the GA red clay....but I will try my best to git er dun and have a decent garden....did you have red clay in NC?

[Norman Byers, N.D.]

Thinking about starting a rickshaw taxi business for those out of work due to the slow economy. "Greenline taxi" It will be a means of evangelism as well as I don't think I'll have a difficult time promoting the Sabbath.

Norman

[CyberGuy]

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Hey if you lived next door to me I could trade you Alvacados, Peaches, Percimins, Apples, Lemons, Tangerines, Palmogranets, Bannanas and Apricots for your vegetables. Yes I have all those trees in my yard.

Awwww man!! Why'd you have to live so far away? I love all those fruits you mentioned! Especially the avacados. Hey, how'd you know that I was going to ask you if you had those in your yard? l o l I had to edit this because ummmm...well...you know....asked you if you had the trees in your yard....and then I didn't see that until after I submitted it......I think it's time for me to go to bed.....

And I forgot to mention Oranges. I have a Navel Orange tree I planted five years ago. I get about 40 to 60 oranges a year on that tree. More each year.

I have three alvacado Trees. One Haas and two other trees of a different varieties. All of them bear fruit from November to December. Haas until February. One year one of my trees bore about 1000 to 2000 alvacados. This tree is 40 feet tall and 20 feet wide and there was an alvacado every four inches on that ree. Broke several brances from the weight. I had to put up boards to support the weight on the branches. I went up and down the street giving them away by the sack fulls.

[David Koot]

Good evening David! So you had some of the best tasting maters too?! They have some great maters here! The only thing I don't like about plantingn a garden is the GA red clay....but I will try my best to git er dun and have a decent garden....did you have red clay in NC?

Oh yeah, we had red clay. It was a BEAR tilling that stuff. Started out with a front-tine tiller, then borrowed rear-tine, worked a lot better. I was amazed at how good the veggies were growing in that red clay! We grew early girl tomatoes, they were DEE-LICIOUS! Big thing to watch was vine borers for the squash, cutworms and COONS! If I ever move back there and have a garden again, I swear that during harvest I'm gonna stay up nights with a .22! Oh, and the drainage. I made sure our gardens were on a slight grade, standing water in that Carolina clay will kill the growing plants.

Dave

[Bravus]

Back on topic, Cyberguy aside, when y'all realise how crazy it is to lug a ton of steel around with a couple of hundred pounds of human inside (a) you'll all use much less fuel and ( it'll be much safer on the bike without all those tons of hurtling steel.

[CyberGuy]

Bravus my mom is a nurse and she has had to hand the doctor his surgical tools in surgery patching up those guys who crashed a motorcycle and thought they to were invincible and could out manuver a car. No I would rather have two tons of armour around me when I travel thankyou.

[David Koot]

Bravus, Bravus . . . And here I thought you were so sensible. A motorcycle safer than a car? Excuse me! Yes, I have ridden bikes. My first was a BSA 440 (one-banger). Then several others. Need I remind you that Lawrence of Arabia was killed on a motorcycle, far from harm's way in England? Motorcycles are far more dangerous than cars.

Dave

[Bravus]

Read carefully and exegete rather than eisegete, my learned friend! I said that if all the cars were gone from the roads, bikes would be much safer. Not safer than cars, but safer than bikes are now. T.E. Lawrence was riding much too fast for the conditions... and yep, bike riders are much less protected than car drivers. But they crash less often (per capita)... and there are many ways to move those stats even further in one's favour (e.g. having a license and training, having experience, not drinking, riding to the speed and conditions, defensive riding, being over 25, etc.)

I'm about 100 kg, my bike is about 200, my car is about 800. It doesn't take a physicist to figure out which is the most fuel efficient way to travel.

[Bravus]

And yeah, I know there are lots of bike injuries, cyberguy - I've had my share. But you have to admit that the main reason you need 2 tons of armour is because of all the other 2 tons of armour out there.

[CyberGuy]

Read carefully and exegete rather than eisegete, my learned friend! I said that if all the cars were gone from the roads, bikes would be much safer. Not safer than cars, but safer than bikes are now. T.E. Lawrence was riding much too fast for the conditions... and yep, bike riders are much less protected than car drivers. But they crash less often (per capita)... and there are many ways to move those stats even further in one's favour (e.g. having a license and training, having experience, not drinking, riding to the speed and conditions, defensive riding, being over 25, etc.)

I'm about 100 kg, my bike is about 200, my car is about 800. It doesn't take a physicist to figure out which is the most fuel efficient way to travel.

If all the cars were gone then yes it would be safer to have motorcycles but that is not going to happen so I will drive my 2 tons of armour when I drive in the mean time.

I saw a cartoon which addresses that. A prehistoric driver was driving a HUGE dinosaur and was walking of a smaller driver with a small dinosaur. The driver of the big dinosaur was saying. "Size matters"

This is very true in a collesion. I would rather be in a larger vehicle in a collesion than in a a smaller vehicle.

[David Koot]

I said that if all the cars were gone from the roads, bikes would be much safer.

[Bravus]

Ah, yeah, perhaps the latter sentence was clearer in my head than on the page.

On 'y'all', no, Aussies don't generally use it. I tend to toss it in when talking to a predominantly American audience. When I do, I use it to supply a lack that English has: a recognisable plural second person. In Papua New Guinea pidgin, which I learned when we lived there, 'yu' is the singular second person and 'yupela' is the plural. So for me 'you' is the singular and 'y'all' (you-all) is the plural. In that context 'all y'all' is just redundant.

[David Koot]

In that context 'all y'all' is just redundant.

Spoken like a true Yankee. I can see it now--you could have been marching with Gen'l Sherman's legions, burning and destroying as you go along. You sure you're an Aussie?

[Bravus]

[Denise]

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And I forgot to mention Oranges. I have a Navel Orange tree I planted five years ago. I get about 40 to 60 oranges a year on that tree. More each year.

I have three alvacado Trees. One Haas and two other trees of a different varieties. All of them bear fruit from November to December. Haas until February. One year one of my trees bore about 1000 to 2000 alvacados. This tree is 40 feet tall and 20 feet wide and there was an alvacado every four inches on that ree. Broke several brances from the weight. I had to put up boards to support the weight on the branches. I went up and down the street giving them away by the sack fulls.

.....haas?!!! giving away sack fulls......and....and.....I have to miss out??!

[Denise]

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Oh yeah, we had red clay. It was a BEAR tilling that stuff. Started out with a front-tine tiller, then borrowed rear-tine, worked a lot better. I was amazed at how good the veggies were growing in that red clay! We grew early girl tomatoes, they were DEE-LICIOUS! Big thing to watch was vine borers for the squash, cutworms and COONS! If I ever move back there and have a garden again, I swear that during harvest I'm gonna stay up nights with a .22! Oh, and the drainage. I made sure our gardens were on a slight grade, standing water in that Carolina clay will kill the growing plants.

Ohhh nooo! Please don't kill the Coons! Just make them a trap and I'll get rid of them for ya! You never had problems with the possums? They used to always eat my cat food. BTW David, you didn't mix any other kind of soil with the clay? Just used the clay? I am hoping I have success this year.....a few years back, I planted some tomatoes, and didn't have success at all....I really like the tomatoes called....I think they are called big ugly tomatoes, have you heard of that or eaten them? They are so so good! :)

[CyberGuy]

Tell you what Denise. Next time I have a bumper Crop of Alvacados I will post it here in Town hall and I will ship a boxfull to whoever wants some. I will only ask for the shipping costs.

It varies from year to year. I have had two years in my eight years living at this house where I had a bumper crop like that. It will happen again given idea weather conditions. Bumper crops was in 2001 and 2006.

[Denise]

Oh wow!!! That is great! I would appreciate that! And if I don't respond, means I didn't see it....sometimes I get busy and don't get to get on as often for long periods of time...so you can always PM me. Thanks so much, appreciate that!

[CyberGuy]

The key to a bumper crop is this. No frost during flowing time. NO heavy rain either. And I have to remember to give the tree PLENTY of water during the summer months. Then a bumper crop is almost assured.

[David Koot]

You never had problems with the possums? They used to always eat my cat food.

[CyberGuy]

I have seen skunks and possems in our back yard during the fruit season. They like to eat the fallen persimons. Our dog tried to take on a skunk one night and chased it off but he got sprayed and he was rolling in the grass and rubbing his face in the grass like a mad dog. It took several days of shampooing every night and rubing scented oils into his fur to get the stink out.

I have seen raccoons in the streets around my house but never in our back yard yet. Maybe our two dogs keep them away or they keep out of sight.

[Denise]

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Heirlooms. Yeah, they are good.

No, they are called ugly ripe tomatoes, different from heirlooms.

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I broke open a chili pepper from our garden and rubbed the juice on the garbage can lids. The critters would open the lids and get in our garbage. Well, the next morning, we found our plastic wading pool had the bottom torn up. The VARMINTS tried to cool their paws in it! They left us alone for awhile after that.

now that's funny! I wonder if their paws ever cooled off!

[Neil D]

Well, the price of gas is anywhere fron $3.45 to 3.60 in southern Oregon....Ouch....

[Amelia]

This is really hurtin me at work. The company only reimburses .30 a mile after we get to our first customer. I know, at least it's something. But I can go through 2+ tanks of gas a week depending on where I have to go.

[Lil Star]

I am a distributor and these gas prices are making it very hard to drive for my business. The only thing I have going for me is that my new car is very economical! I get something like 35+ miles per gallon. Hard thing is, is that my customers are far apart. Thankfully I get paid mileage but that is nothing compared to the gas prices now days.