America's Birth defect?

[Amelia]

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Some days one never knows what the Saints are going to publish on here..

Well it certainly highlights which side of the road a person walks on.

[John317]

you made some comments about how the english speaking parts of the world are more civilized, while the parts of the world inhabited by Blacks are not. I don't totally agree with that model, but that is what you said, or something similar.

Go back and reread. That is not what I said, nor is it what I mean.

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My thing is what difference does it make? If you and your culture are intelligent enough to make enough nuclear bombs, & othr WMDs, to blow the world up 15 times, does that make you superior? Are you going to stand in front of Jesus and say 'i kept my lawn trimmed, didn't use drugs, and read great literature. Is that going to save you? I don't think so. If the world was to last another 1,000 years maybe it would be enough time to build a statue big enough to appease the ego of the great white man. I don't think you have that much time though. While you wasting time patting yourself on the back and critiqing what's going on in the black community, I think you need to spend more time making sure your own situation is in check. Cause there is a spirit and a message that is going out. Somebody in Africa, or India, or Central America is walking 20 miles one way to hear. Meanwhile, jaded North Americans are sitting around naval gazing and discussing who has the prettiest belly button, and what's wrong with the African American community. If you look around, there is a lot to be fixed in the community you live in.

You're not hearing me, evidently. I'm not talking about patting anyone on the back, and I am certainly not saying anyone's literature is better than another's. Nor am I saying America doesn't have any problems.

I'm talking about seeing patterns in the problems faced by blacks in the world, wherever they are. I am not saying that every single black is doing the same thing.

Like I said before, if we can't observe and comment on the way the world is, and if we can't correctly diagnose the illness, we will never find a real cure. If the illness is misdiagnosed as simply or primarily the result of racism, then the illness will never be cured.

[John317]

I've read 'on the road'. I know of ginsberg, L Ferlingetti, Howl, etc.

Great. You're probably aware, then, that those people were greatly influenced by "the black experience" and by black culture in general.

[D. Allan]

Have you ever heard of inertia? I don't know how old you are, but it wasn't so long ago that there were signs "whites only" or "colored only" in public places in certain parts of the country. That blacks couldn't vote? That the good jobs belonged only to the whites? That blacks who tried to change the status quo were flogged, hanged, shot or intimidated by many white people? And you expect the effects of generations of discrimination/racism to disappear just like that?

This is the reality. When I was a child and I grew up in Northern Ohio, not the South, I heard a white lady telling how nice she was to the black lady on the bus. Now why would she consider it worth mentioning?! As if it weren't required to be nice to certain people. I remmember as a teenager in Ohio, black men on the sidewalks trying to earn money shinning shoes. My friends would walk away without paying!! I did it once! You don't have to pay him they told me.!!! Thanks to God that attitude on my part has been destroyed.

Things are much better now and it is not because of white iniatives. If it weren't for MLK I don't know where we would all be. Whites don't have any grounds for talking about their superior morality. At least I don't. It only takes a little bit of imagination to realize what rage must be boiling in the souls of our black friends/neighbors.

[John317]

... You've heard of the siciilian mafia? Oh that's right, they are accepted becuase the godfather movies [color:#CC0000]won some oscars. How about the irish mafia, jewish gangs and gangsters, the trenchcoat mafia, young kids, english speaking white kids, from suburban two family homes,

shooting up other students and teachers.

Here's the difference. If people, of whatever race, commit those kinds of crimes, they ought to be severely punished to the full extent of the law. Murderers should never be let go or not convicted because of their race.

Yes, there are gangs of other races and nationalities, but they are condemned for what they do and are not "accepted." I don't hear people saying, "That is just part of that culture, and you have to understand or sympathize with them. You have to know what's it like to be Italian or Jewish or Irish."

Maybe there are some who would say this, but I reject it outright. Such behavior does not need to be understood so much as it has to be rejected, condemned, changed and gotten rid of.

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Laziness. Everyone that is black is not lazy.

Of course not, and I didn't say they are. I'm talking about the over-riding emphasis and values in a culture and society. I'm talking about whether certain values and behaviors are accepted or condemned or punished or whether they're reinforced or excused.

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I have two jobs. My wife has one. My stepdaughter is an investment banker. I know all sorts of industrious black professtionals, in and out of church. Lawyers, Doctors, cpa accountants, you name it. There are not enough, but there are many, and their numbers are growing.

Yes, of course.

What you are showing is that anyone can be successful in America if they really want to be, and if they have intelligence and work hard. Essentially what you say makes my argument: that people of any race can make it in America if they really have the determination to do it. You're help to make the very point I am making.

What you have to do-- what must be done-- is show that this kind of thinking is wrong and extremely detrimental to blacks as a race. What has to be done is to advertise the fact of black success instead of black defeat and defeatism and black anger and frustration. But people can't do that by talking like Wright and others talk. Because they would have people believe that racism is the main reason that so many millions of blacks haven't done better or succeeded.

I have talked about the issues of race with blacks who have told me that they don't think of Rice and Powell as "really black." They are not seen as being "black enough." So that is how many blacks view other blacks who succeed. In fact, that is no doubt one of the reasons that Obama chose to attach himself to Wright and to Wright's church. Obaba didn't have experience in the black community when he came to Chicago from Hawaii and Columbia University. He had spent most of his life up to that point with whites and around rich people. That was a political deficit for Obama, and he realize it. If he had left it at that, he would be seen now as not being "black enough," of not knowing what it is like "to be a black man in America." In fact, that is what some blacks said to me about him only a few months ago, before Iowa and before Wright.

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Drugs? cocaine, heroin, marijuana, etc, that stuff does not grow indigenously in the black community. Someone else has to bring it in. Most black people do not have the planes, trains, ships, etc., to bring that stuff in. white people and other ethnic groups do. America has a drug problem alright, but if you think it starts and stops with black people you are out of contact with reality.

No one can make people take drugs if they don't want to. The presence of the drugs is not the point. The point is that someone takes them and then sells them on the streets to their own people.

And then blames the "white man". Any white man or black man doing drugs and selling them ought to be punished and made to feel that it is wrong to do those things. But people are not made to feel this way by the community saying that they need to "understand" them or sympathize with them. Or by preachers and others blaming anyone else.

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This whole world is going to be burned down, not just the black community. You don't have to believe me. Keep it where you have it. You'll find out soon enough.

DB

Explain a little more. Are you talking about the fact that the whole world will ultimately be destroyed? Are you talking about "burn, baby, burn," or something like James Balwin's The Fire Next Time?

[John317]

Originally Posted By: Gerry

Have you ever heard of inertia? I don't know how old you are, but it wasn't so long ago that there were signs "whites only" or "colored only" in public places in certain parts of the country. That blacks couldn't vote? That the good jobs belonged only to the whites? That blacks who tried to change the status quo were flogged, hanged, shot or intimidated by many white people? And you expect the effects of generations of discrimination/racism to disappear just like that?

This is the reality. When I was a child and I grew up in Northern Ohio, not the South, I heard a white lady telling how nice she was to the black lady on the bus. Now why would she consider it worth mentioning?! As if it weren't required to be nice to certain people. I remmember as a teenager in Ohio, black men on the sidewalks trying to earn money shinning shoes. My friends would walk away without paying!! I did it once! You don't have to pay him they told me.!!! Thanks to God that attitude on my part has been destroyed.

Things are much better now and it is not because of white iniatives. If it weren't for MLK I don't know where we would all be. Whites don't have any grounds for talking about their superior morality. At least I don't. It only takes a little bit of imagination to realize what rage must be boiling in the souls of our black friends/neighbors.

And if anyone reads and understands what I have been saying, they will realize I am not saying anything different from what you are saying here.

So if you are right-- and I believe you and Gerry are--, then why do some say that anger among whites and among blacks is all the same, or that blacks have no more anger than whites or other races?

I got that response when I mentioned anger among certain groups as perhaps being a contributing factor to their economic and other failures.

[Gerr]

Originally Posted By: Tallmark

The black people have a character problem........They go to church to whoop and holler, but their lives remain unchanged

Well, you are an interesting fellow. At least you speak your mind. But what a mind.

Racism = a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

"The black people" ....now thats funny!

If you don't get rid of that baseball bat, you might be mistaken for another black mugger!

Gerry

[LifeHiscost]

That's garbage. We're so far removed from that, and who is she to talk? Graduated with honors from a high end college, Secretary of State, classical pianist.... some birth defect. The black people have a character problem. 70% of black babies born out of wedlock, 17 million black babies aborted since 1973. Most abortion clinics are located at or near black neighborhoods. They go to church to whoop and holler, but their lives remain unchanged. The black man (and all men really) need to get back to God, then things will change. When the man is where he should be, the families will follow.

[LifeHiscost]

"The black people" ....now thats funny!

Re: post #163314 Lazurus, I'm glad you have a sense of humor, truly a gift of God.

"And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings," Acts 17:26

And may I suggest that God continued to allow, after the fall of the human race, all men to exist with the same set of weaknesses.

"For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." 1 John 2:16 KJV

Regards!

[cardw]

I have studied the life of Martin Luther King and I think it was an extreme tragedy that he was killed. His ideas and methods were based on the methods that Gandhi used to break his people free from British rule in India. It was non-violent and I believe that if the civil rights movement had followed his plan more closely we would not have near the divide between those of different skin color. Unfortunately the loss of his leadership and his great intellect has created suffering for both Black and White peoples.

I grew up in the Los Angeles area and from my experiences there I learned to be afraid of black people, not from white people, but from black people. I heard it discussed among my black friends that they took advantage of white fear. There was a certain despair in this view. When I was in 4th grade our school went to a public park for the end of school play day.

I was at the top of one of those old rocket slides and was suddenly surrounded by 4 bus loads of black kids who suddenly filled the play ground. I was called names and taunted and as I slowly walked away they had picked up sticks and rocks and were moving to block my way. Fortunately I had found another black kid's bus pass in the sand in that same playground and had called out his name some time earlier and had given it to him. He came running down the hill and told everyone what I had done and I ended up giving about 400 black brother hand shakes. Otherwise I would have had the [censored] beat out of me.

Now I'm still want to see each person as an individual no matter what color of skin they are, but I also think that the black community needs to do some house cleaning on their part as well. There is no doubt that the white community needs to do work on its pre-conceptions and to clearly communicate its disapproval of practices the discriminate based on race. And there is no doubt that the Black community needs to keep speaking out.

The message that I think has been lost is the one that Martin Luther King was trying to communicate and that is that equality is for everyone no matter what race. It may not be my place to say, but I think the message would be far more powerful if that message and the civil rights movement became known as defenders of all the oppressed, not just the black oppressed.

I still reach out even though sometimes my reaching out is seen as condescension or is met with distrust because I believe that it is in all our best interest to be as one people. And I realize that I will never fully understand what it is like to be black in this country. But I can observe that whatever we are doing now isn't working and it is going to take change on both sides to bridge the gap.

[Gerr]

Richard, that is very nice. Amen to that!

Gerry

[lazarus]

Re: post #163314 Lazurus, I'm glad you have a sense of humor, truly a gift of God.

I'm glad you picked that up. I did find it genuinely funny. I have never heard that before. I have no objection to anyone using black folk, community or any other commonly accepted designation.

"the black people" was just brand new (and funny) thats all.

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And may I suggest that God continued to allow, after the fall of the human race, all men to exist with the same set of weaknesses.

absolute agreement.

[fccool]

The birth defect was not just about Africans who came here in chains. I know it may sound ignorant, but ask any African American for a choice between suffering the consequences of slavery, or right now residing in Africa... I wonder what the response would be? Now, I don't advocate slavery and bigotry, but there is more to it than forced servitude. What the fathers did to Natives who lived on this land before is not very fair either. Very few people even bring it up anymore as it became the conveniently forgotten history which sometime surfaces in baseball game mascots, state and city names, and the Thanksgiving season.

Any human being can blame problems of the past to excuse the present conditions. Segregation and bigotry exists within races too... . Now, when you realize that there is racism within races... I'm talking about the "white trash" and "the oreo" types of racism... we will see that it's a personal problem of prejudice, and all of us have it if you examine yourself enough. Everyone talks about white racism against blacks, yet there is black racism against whites, Filipino's against Chinese, Chinese against white. All I have to do is to list a few races/nationalities and ask you what's the first thing that pops into your head. The history of the world and governments is a history of racism . Unfortunately, this is the way we were taught to think, that's why we need to relearn things and see things God's way.

[Dr. Shane]

America was divided at its founding. Blacks were free in the North. The southern states would not have ratified the Constitution if it had banned slavery. Getting a ban on the slave trade was an amazing accomplishment.

[LifeHiscost]

that's why we need to relearn things and see things God's way.

"And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God." Romans 12:2 NKJV

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

Philippians 4:8 KJV

"I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing." John 15:5 NASB

Regards!

[lazarus]

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"That particular birth defect makes it hard for us to confront it, hard for us to talk about it, and hard for us to realize that it has continuing relevance for who we are today," she said.

I think the route this discussion has taken has proved Rice to be largely correct in her analysis.

[John317]

America was divided at its founding. Blacks were free in the North. The southern states would not have ratified the Constitution if it had banned slavery. Getting a ban on the slave trade was an amazing accomplishment.

That is very true. There was debate over ending slavery at that time, but as you say the Constitution would not have been ratified if the other states had insisted on it. The Founding Fathers believed that the most urgent order of business was to get the Constitution passed and have a single, united nation.

It was similar with Abraham Lincoln. His whole intention was to save the Union, to keep us a united country. He wanted to get rid of slavery because he personally hated it and saw what a curse it was on our nation, but he wouldn't have done it by sacrificing the Union. He didn't want war, but once it started, he eventually took advantage of the situation to end slavery, something that wouldn't have happened at least for another twenty or thirty years without it.

Along this same line, it is interesting to study Thomas Jefferson's initial draft of the Declaration of Independence. In it he included the fact that King George was involved in the slave trade, but those lines were deleted, again because the southern colonies wouldn't have signed onto it if that clause had been kept.

[John317]

Perhaps a more conservative voice may soften things up a little bit!

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States still has trouble dealing with race because of a national "birth defect" that denied black Americans the opportunities given to whites at the country's very founding.

"Black Americans were a founding population," she said. "Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together — Europeans by choice and Africans in chains. That's not a very pretty reality of our founding."

I agree completely with Rice's analysis and conclusions about race and about the long-term affect slavery and race relations has had, and continues to have, in America, and, tragically, will even yet have in the future.

The last time I had a serious, heart-to-heart discussion with my black fellow workers, it was just me and a roomful of my friends with whom I had worked over 5 years. One of them would come over to my house and we had a ball riding our bikes around town together. So we were comfortable with being totally open and honest with each other.

Anyhow the last time we talked about political and racial matters, both of them told me they really do not consider Condaleezza Rice as representing the black community. Nor do they believe that they are represented by Justice of the Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas, or General and former Secretary of State Powell. In fact, when I mentioned them as examples of how blacks are able to succeed and have influence in government, and of how Republicans have placed blacks higher in office than Democrats have, they snickered and said that it was a joke to think of those people as really black. They considered them as little better than "house Negroes," they said.

Now I've studied history and sociology enough to understand what they were saying and I really was not surprised. But speaking as a white, which is the only thing I can do, I find it disappointing that so many black people feel the way those two friends of mine did. I would be willing to vote for Rice and possibly Powell for President, whereas I am less and less sure that I could ever bring myself to vote for Obama, because I am finding him way too liberal for my tastes, and besides, I now have some reservations about his judgment and forthrightness. I was excited about him after Iowa but am no longer. I am actually afraid of his becoming president because I don't feel that we know much of anything about him. I am hoping and praying the nation will get to know him better and better between now and November. As of now, we don't know him nearly as well as we know McCain and Clinton. Those two have been under the public scrutiny for quite a few years already. On the other hand, we're just beginning to watch Obama. So we have a long ways to go.

In any case, I am wondering if you would explain your views of the three people I mentioned, and tell me if your experience leads you to believe that black Americans consider them fully black or whether they see them as not real members or representatives of the so-called black community.

[lazarus]

In any case, I am wondering if you would explain your views of the three people I mentioned, and tell me if your experience leads you to believe that black Americans consider them fully black or whether they see them as not real members or representatives of the so-called black community.

Many blacks believe that the GOP represents the interests of those who, if they had their way, would have perpetuated the racial segregation of America. African Americans understand that freedom was not freely given in the 1960's. It was fought for. Whites grudgingly gave it. It came as a result of a struggle. In fact today, April 4th, it a potent reminder of that struggle.

Many black people suspect that many whites did not change the way they saw black people but adapted to the new political climate. A climate that said is was not socially acceptable to to discriminate against blacks. The fact that desegregation took so long is a bit of evidence of that. Somebody said it wasn't until the late 70's that the GC desegregated its lunch room. That reveals a bit about my Adventist brothers and sisters.

The GOP is perceived as a party that embodies that racist underbelly. Those who make it in that party have to be quiet on this issues to get ahead. Would Rice have made these statements early on in her White House career, my guess is that she would not.

House niggers secured their position by agreeing with their white masters. House niggers helped the whites in their endeavors at the expense of their own people. House niggers worked against their own interests and the interests of other black people.

Obama did not get the support of the black community initially because they were not sure whether he was concerned about or understood their interests. For a while the support was with Clinton.

Obama has shown his understanding of black issues and has therefore garnered support.

Rice will have surprised many black folk by her comments. The media like to portray this stuff as about music, dress etc.

Its about real substantive issues that concern the black community.

[Dr. Shane]

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Many blacks believe that the GOP represents the interests of those who, if they had their way, would have perpetuated the racial segregation of America.

I don't doubt that many blacks believe this but it due to total ignorance of history. It was a Republican President that freed the slaves. It was also Republicans that pushed the civil rights legislation through Congress in the 1960s and 1970s.

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African Americans understand that freedom was not freely given in the 1960's. It was fought for. Whites grudgingly gave it.

Again, I am sure this is commonly believed but is based completely on a poor history. White people did not grudgingly give freedom to the blacks. Whites died by the thousands in order to free the slaves. Whites in the northern and western states supported the civil rights movement. Many such whites were killed by racists when they went into the South to support the movement.

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The GOP is perceived as a party that embodies that racist underbelly.

Let's not forget that Al Gore Sr., senator from Tennessee, opposed the civil rights movement. Many other Democrats like him did the same.

The GOP opposed many welfare programs and black leaders use the GOP's opposition of welfare programs to make them into racists. However those in the GOP that oppose welfare programs oppose such programs for whites too. Their opposition to welfare is not based on race but black leaders are successful in making other blacks believe otherwise.

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Would Rice have made these statements early on in her White House career, my guess is that she would not.

I am sure she would have and probably did. She had a life before and a mouth too. I am sure she said a lot of things. She was the president of Stanford University. To say she would not have said something like this early in her White House career is disparaging and implies she is some kind of "Uncle Tom." That is wrong and that type of attitude only increases the racial divide and tensions.

[lazarus]

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Many blacks believe that the GOP represents the interests of those who, if they had their way, would have perpetuated the racial segregation of America.

I don't doubt that many blacks believe this but it due to total ignorance of history. It was a Republican President that freed the slaves. It was also Republicans that pushed the civil rights legislation through Congress in the 1960s and 1970s.

total ignorance of history?? I think you are indulging in a bit of revision or at least selective recall.

My knowledge of US history is a bit weak but come on dude!

Note I said segregation. I think the political landscape in terms of the make up of political parties was very different in the 19th century.

Wasn't it a Democratic president and a Democratic congress that passed the legislation. Our course there were southern conservative democrats who opposed it but which party did they join afterwards? It was largely northern liberal republicans that helped the passage of the legislation.

from wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to methods of winning elections in the South by exploiting racial anxiety among white voters.

Although the phrase "Southern strategy" is often attributed to Richard Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips, he did not originate it,[1] but merely popularized it.[2] In an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, he touched on its essence:

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."[3]

While Phillips was concerned with polarizing ethnic voting in general, and not just with winning the white South, this was by far the biggest prize yielded by his approach. Its success began at the presidential level, gradually trickling down to statewide offices, the Senate and House, as legacy segregationist Democrats retired or switched to the GOP. The strategy suffered a brief apparent reversal following Watergate, with broad support for the Southern Democrat Jimmy Carter in the 1976 election. But with Ronald Reagan kicking off his 1980 presidential campaign proclaiming support for "states' rights" in Philadelphia, Mississippi, the site of the murder of three civil rights workers in 1964's Freedom Summer, the Southern Strategy was back to stay. Although another Southern Democrat, Bill Clinton, would twice be elected President, winning a handful of Southern states, he did better outside the South, and would have won without carrying any Southern state.

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Again, I am sure this is commonly believed but is based completely on a poor history. White people did not grudgingly give freedom to the blacks. Whites died by the thousands in order to free the slaves.

Note again my reference is to the 1960's, this is what more black folks can readily relate to because its has been their experience.

Of course whites were involved in the struggle but the white establishment feared King and even considered him the enemy.

there's a lot of information out there about how the FBI for example saw and treated MLK.

The almost fanatical zeal with which the FBI pursued King is disclosed in tens of thousands of FBI memos from the 1960s.

The FBI paper trail spells out in detail the government agency's concerted efforts to derail King's efforts on behalf of the civil rights movement.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/31/mlk.fbi.conspiracy/index.html

The FBI's interest in King intensified after the March on Washington in August 1963, when King delivered his "I have a dream speech," which many historians consider the most important speech of the 20th century. After the speech, an FBI memo called King the "most dangerous and effective Negro leader in the country."

Do you honestly think the white establishment would have desegregated if it were not for the civil rights movement

led by black people?

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Let's not forget that Al Gore Sr., senator from Tennessee, opposed the civil rights movement. Many other Democrats like him did the same.

Shane you're leaving out some bits, naughty naughty.....!

from Wikipedia...

After the civil rights movement successfully challenged Jim Crow and other forms of institutionalized racism, and Democrats as a whole became the symbol of the mainstream left of the United States, the form, if not the content, of Southern Democratic politics began to change. Most Southern Democrats defected to the Republican Party at that point and helped accelerate the latter's transformation into more progressive party Republican organization.

After World War II, the civil rights movement took hold by Republicans. Democratics in the South, however, still voted loyally for their party. The old conservative stalwarts were trying to resist the changes that were sweeping the nation. With the signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, it was the final straw for many Southern Democrats, who began voting against Democratic incumbents for GOP candidates. The Republicans carried many Southern states for the first time since before the Great Depression.

The GOP opposed many welfare programs and black leaders use the GOP's opposition of welfare programs to make them into racists.

Nah, its not about welfare. Black people are not as ignorant as you suggest. They know what happened not because they read it but because they lived it!

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Would Rice have made these statements early on in her White House career, my guess is that she would not.

I'm not saying that she didn't say that stuff but I know many were surprised when she said what she did. That tells you something.

[Dr. Shane]

When we quote other sources, let's at least give an indication that it is another source being quoted.

Fact is that most black people believe what their leaders, mostly teachers and pastors believe. When those teachers and pastors are not true to history, the people become misinformed.

The issue has always been about North vs. South. From the writing of the Constitution to the Civil War to the Civil Rights movement. It has never been about Democrat vs. Republican. Democrats in the South have been just as racist as Republicans in the South. Slavery did not exist in the North or the western states. Segregation did not exist in the North or the western states. It is the North and the western states that forced change in the South. Martin Luther King Jr. brought attention to the issue but he could not have done anything - and would never have accomplished anything - if the white people in the North and western states had not supported his cause. Martin Luther King Jr. didn't somehow force the North and the western states to create change. They were ready and willing to do so already. Brown v. Board of Education was a case ruled on by an all white Supreme Court!

Note that Republican President Nixon picked up the mantle of Democrat President Johnson.

Why Richard Nixon Deserves to Be Remembered Along with Brown

In the fall of 1968, 68 percent of black children in the South were attending all-black schools. By 1974, that number had fallen to 8 percent. This extraordinary accomplishment was achieved through the shrewd political skills and raw courage of President Nixon, Secretary of Labor George Schultz, and Attorney General John Mitchell.

During the 1960s, many liberals self-righteously screamed about racism, demanding that the federal government coerce Southerners into racial integration. The result of their heavy-handed tactics was more racial antagonism...

The president tried a different approach – cooperation. Thanks to Nixon’s strong leadership, Shultz’s masterful negotiating skills and Mitchell’s ability to keep overzealous Justice Department officials in check, the state advisory committees were an overwhelming success.

In a 1970 memo, presidential counselor Daniel Patrick Moynihan wrote, “There has been more change in the structure of American public school education in the last month than in the past 100 years.” And, like going to China, only Nixon could have done it.

Black leaders choose the Democrat Party under the F.D. Roosevelt Administration because of welfare programs. That choice was made long before the civil rights movement. It was not chosen because Democrats were less racist than Republicans.