Moderators Bravus Posted January 13, 2005 Moderators Posted January 13, 2005 Dude, just make the switch already! Honestly, in your position I'd do it in a heartbeat. Baptists are gonna be saved too, ya know, so go where you're being fed! Quote Truth is important
Guest Posted January 13, 2005 Posted January 13, 2005 Bravus, We usually go to SDA because I teach sabbath school...but check in at my friends church 1 or 2 times a month. It is educational to see both scenarios.. Also..I am not in this for just me.. I pity the starved SDA's...and I want my son to know that the sabbath is significant. Quote
californiagirl Posted January 13, 2005 Posted January 13, 2005 But what is your son learning from your going to the Baptist church twice a month? Quote californiagirl
Kimberly Posted January 13, 2005 Posted January 13, 2005 Yes, I agree that I expect different behavior from my kids at McDonald's vs. a nicer restaurant. I just find it hard when I have to "shush" them during the sermon knowing they are much happier in the Children's church. Kim Quote
Michelle Posted January 13, 2005 Posted January 13, 2005 Kimberly--you have a very good question. I was raised in SDA churches in which the kids always went to church with the adults so I never thought anything of it. However, when I had kids of my own, I often wished for a children's church of some kind. (however, like Christine, I think I'd probably get "stuck" in leadership of children's church, which has made me extremely reluctant to suggest it anywhere--I just don't have the energy for that!) I have a very good Southern Baptist friend who moved from SC to MI. She said that when she was growing up, it was just as I said--kids sat with parents. It was also this way in the church they attended before they moved. So when they moved and she was looking for a church to attend, she was not sure what to think about the kids going to a program that was separate from the adult church. On the one hand, she enjoyed not having to worry about keeping them quiet, etc. On the other hand, she was not happy that the family was split up for worship time, and was concerned that the kids wouldn't want to come to church after being entertained (pretty much what happened in the churches she was checking out) in the children's sections. Having never attended a church which had a separate children's program for church, I can't say I prefer one over the other. I do know that my kids have gone from having a bag of soft quiet toys to having a small Magna Doodle to my 7 year old not taking anything anymore because he wants to listen (though it's difficult, since we have to listen to every sermon in translation, which makes it twice as long and sometimes very difficult to follow--I try to point out Chinese words he already knows and show him the verses in my Bible and help him read them) and my 5 year old doing a little drawing and doodling on notepads. They do not "love" church, and I'm sorry for that--this is a very difficult situation. However, they don't "hate" it, either. They have a very good Sabbath School class which they both love, and that probably helps with their attitude. I know I used to be bored in church (still am, sometimes), but it never occurred to me to want to be elsewhere (I'm kind of dense, perhaps) until I was a teenager. If it's an exceptionally long service, I will let the boys leave the sanctuary and go outside after the sermon (before the final hymn and announcements)--there's a limit to how long they can/will/should be expected to sit quietly (and I thorougly second the suggestion to sit near the edge so you can leave easily if need be!). I don't know how old your kids are, but small Magna Doodles worked wonders for us for several years. They can write, draw, doodle, etc, very quietly. Easy to carry along, no mess, etc. M Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2005 Posted January 13, 2005 Quote: But what is your son learning from your going to the Baptist church twice a month? Thanks..I read into this some level of concern,,maybe?? That it is ok to go to a bible study on Sunday as well as Wednesday night... He usually doesn't go to the Baptist fellowship with my wife and I . He is also learning that I am not an exclusive SDA bigot who is intolerable of others of different persuasions. By my remarks..of the competency ..he also learns that some preachers really teach the WORD and some just slime through topical sermons and really don't know how to spiritually feed their flock. BTW..you might not be tuned into the background of this Baptist buddy. I walked cold off the street and knocked on his ofice door and spent many lunches with him going over sabbath and law details and really had his attention. He values my input Quote
Kimberly Posted January 13, 2005 Posted January 13, 2005 Hi Michelle. Thanks for the input. My kids are 8 and 10. I see the pros and cons of having them with me or in their own service. All I know is they are much happier going off with the other kids than sitting with me. Kim Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2005 Posted January 13, 2005 Yeah... we have another room ..library room where the kids meet and talk movies instead of listening to the NFDMTTS.. Not surprised at all. What do we expect when they get the WORLD for all of their time and church for a couple hours a week? Quote
Nicodema Posted January 14, 2005 Posted January 14, 2005 Quote: You've been through a lot Nico. I can't even imagine. I speak about theory, but in reality, I'm a naive patronizing idiot, who really hasn't done jack. Sid, I'm sorry, did I say something to make you feel this way? It wasn't my intention at all. Quote: I understand a little more about where you're coming from. Would love to hear more about your thoughts on this. On what, exactly? LOL - I'm a little lost here at this point ... Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Pockey Posted January 14, 2005 Posted January 14, 2005 Quote: Sid, I'm sorry, did I say something to make you feel this way? It wasn't my intention at all. Noooo! Sorrry. I was just rambling on in my usual self loathing (and whining) manner. Quote: On what, exactly? LOL - I'm a little lost here at this point ... LOL I'm lost too. Just ignore me. I'm a weirdo. I need to stop posting late at night when I'm out of it. Quote
Guest Posted January 14, 2005 Posted January 14, 2005 Hey.. We have a room just for you two too. Quote
Nicodema Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 Quote: Quote: On what, exactly? LOL - I'm a little lost here at this point ... LOL I'm lost too. Just ignore me. I'm a weirdo. I need to stop posting late at night when I'm out of it. Don't worry about it. You're in good company there. I'm a weirdo too. How about we make a pact NOT to ignore each other. No I don't mean in blood or anything ... LOL. Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Nicodema Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 Quote: Hey.. We have a room just for you two too. Yeah, I know, sorry about going kinda It just sorta sprang up here. Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Pockey Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 Quote: Don't worry about it. You're in good company there. I'm a weirdo too. How about we make a pact NOT to ignore each other. No I don't mean in blood or anything ... LOL. Cool it's a deal Speaking of deals, I hope you decide to go to church tommorow Nico. And I hope I decide to go too hehe. Oh, and yeah, you are pretty weird Quote
LifeHiscost Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 Quote: that are my right, for myself AND my son. Nico, Both you and JimBob in the post following have valid points. And having invited God to be Sovereign in my life I'm satisfied He can take that which isn't within my ability to control, work together for good. And this is not a light statement, Nico, since I have four children, all out of the Adventist faith, at least partially a result of influences from within the body of believers. [:"red"] "and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children." [/] Isaiah 49:25 Lift Jesus up!! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
Guest Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 LHC.. Thanks for that post and matching scripture Quote
Nicodema Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Ditto. Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
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