Neil D Posted April 30, 2009 Author Posted April 30, 2009 So can we settle this now?I don't share your beliefs,I don't want any part of your dysfunctional relationships,I do not have a desire to be lumped with progressives. You want no part of what I believe to be true. So where is the problem?? Settle this? What are you settling? Are you wanting to end something? If so, what? You don't want to be "lumped with progressives"...Wasn't looking to "lump" you in with progressives.... If you are wanting to end this dispute between us, I am open to that possiblity.....but I want to know what you are looking for from me.... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
bonnie Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Quote: Your loss in assuming a global understanding of what I have said and your oppertunity, which you continue to fail in building internet relationships. You want honesty, well, you have always had it....but it makes no impression to you ....Your lack of trust is only surpassed by your continued undermining any sort of internet behavior. Your evidence of 'good' relationships with your family can not be seen by those of us on the internet, and therefore have to believe from the evidence of your posts show contrary evidence of your familial relationship. Don't give up your day job for shrink. Is there something you cannot grasp is I do not want a relationship with you of any kind. I do not have to give you evidence of my family relationship. I have four wonderful sons who I am immensely proud of. Not to sure what else I need,but know it is not a relationship with you. Quote: Come on, Bonnie...look at the context...I am NOT talking about progressive religionists, but as this is the politcal forum am talking about progressives/democrats/liberals...This statement from you is about changing religious values rather than politics. Wasn't it you that brought in the "little red books"? In addition I believe politics will play a role in end time events. You don't,that is fine. Quote: God's principals do not change, this we can agree on.....But perhaps you are not familiar with texts that are in dispute due to various changes by one or two words.I am aware of some texts that are in dispute. Does that change the general storys? No.... And perhaps you are not familiar with the understanding of the various differing interpretation of revelation....Futuristic, preterist, et al...I am not as confident in our interpretation of future events as I once was... As far back as I can remember something was always in dispute by those wishing to have the bible say something different than it did. I don't care whether you are confident or not. I think God gave us more than general stories. Where important to mankind and his salvation I believe he is never changing,no matter how progressive someone wants to be. You are certainly free to have as many doubts as you wish. Quote: I believe that the devil is a survivor. I see no reason for the devil to create a Sunday Sabbath, especially when he can continue to live and fulfil his desire to destroy one or two people per day to his delight as long as he can continue to decieve our people, all the while preserve his life by keeping out people decieved and not moving them to evangelize thru personal touches. Rather convoluted but each to his own. I will go with a never changing God before a ever changing Neil. Quote: You changed my meaning of these words...Hope you got your jollys over it....This is evidence of a less than honest Adventist..... Nope didn't change anything. You can claim progressive politically all you want but you have involved spiritual understanding in this. Quote: Can't decide about your functional family...However, given the posts here, I would surmise that the same principles that you exhibit here are also used toward your family...To which I can show thru evidence that you presented here, a very lack of a good or "excellent relationships"....resulting in a serious doubt of your current familial relationships..... Isn't it great you don't have to worry your little head about my family relationship. Relationships with those I choose to have a relationship with is great. Relationships to me is not to see how many I can accumulate,but to cultivate those I care about and want to get to know better. Someone I have something in common with. You and I don't. The only thing in common is we believe in a God and happen to inhabit the same planet. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Dr. Shane Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Maybe you two could get a (PM) room? You are suggesting a private forum for Bonnie and Neil? Probably not a bad idea. Be nice to move the skirmish out of public view... or at least my view. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
bonnie Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Quote: Settle this? What are you settling? Are you wanting to end something? If so, what? This rather asinine departure from the topic to end with my relationship with my husband. An area where you are showing a great amount of ignorance Quote: You don't want to be "lumped with progressives"...Wasn't looking to "lump" you in with progressives.... If you are wanting to end this dispute between us, I am open to that possiblity.....but I want to know what you are looking for from me.... I have no idea of how to say it any different,I want nothing from you,Period. You disagree with what I believe,I don't care. Of course all those that are not progressive are not to bright in your eyes. That is fine. I am very fortunate with the family I have,a faithful and pretty terrific husband. Four sons and DIL's all in the church. I know where each is on a sabbath morning. Extremely proud of the men they developed into. Grandchildren following example so far. No progressives among them for which I thank God. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: Bravus Maybe you two could get a (PM) room? You are suggesting a private forum for Bonnie and Neil? Probably not a bad idea. Be nice to move the skirmish out of public view... or at least my view. No need. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Neil, I have no idea how many if any have read the unfortunate remarks I made concerning your wife. I wanted to post here before going to remove those remarks. I should never have said what I did no matter what the reason,I apologize. I don't go after the families of others You are way out of line when you bring someone's family into this. I happen to have a very happy marriage and have a good relationship with my boys. But you wanted to leave the doubt for others. And whether you would know or not how would you feel if it was someone having extreme difficulties within their family. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Neil D Posted April 30, 2009 Author Posted April 30, 2009 Neil, I have no idea how many if any have read the unfortunate remarks I made concerning your wife. I wanted to post here before going to remove those remarks. I should never have said what I did no matter what the reason,I apologize. I don't go after the families of others Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Planey Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 **bong** End of round 3 Go to your corners, please. Quote Graeme____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Woody Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 **bong** End of round 3 Go to your corners, please. Hey Planey ... I think you "bonging" them helped out. Thanks. They don't appear to have arisen. Maybe we have a reprieve. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Neil D Posted May 1, 2009 Author Posted May 1, 2009 I'm waiting for an answer to my question....Since there is hope of a burying of the hatchet...but if there is no answer by the end of the week, I will assume she doesn't want to change things around and would rather resume the old adversarial [sp] relationship Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
bonnie Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 I'm waiting for an answer to my question....Since there is hope of a burying of the hatchet...but if there is no answer by the end of the week, I will assume she doesn't want to change things around and would rather resume the old adversarial [sp] relationship Neil, I want nothing from you,adversarial or otherwise. I said something my last post to you I should not have said.I edited it and removed it,and apologized. That should have ended it but apparently not . There is no grounds to build any kind of relationship. Now if I am on some sort of deadline you can cancel that at anytime. Redwood seems bent on bringing this up again in hopes of causing more strife. Perhaps he is bored,I don't know. If you want to carry around your hatchet go for it. If you want adversarial that is fine to. One more time,I am not interested in a relationship with you,adversarial or otherwise Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Neil D Posted May 2, 2009 Author Posted May 2, 2009 Neil,I want nothing from you,adversarial or otherwise. I said something my last post to you I should not have said.I edited it and removed it,and apologized. That should have ended it but apparently not . Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
bonnie Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 Quote: Then what is this_ Quote: So can we settle this now?I don't share your beliefs,I don't want any part of your dysfunctional relationships,I do not have a desire to be lumped with progressives. Settle as in I don't want a relationship with you. The one and only thing we have in common is a belief there is a God. Nothing else. I am sorry you have dysfunctional relationships in your personal life. I don't aspire to add one to your list. Quote: Why are you here? If you want NO relationship, then why are you here? If you want NO relationship, why do you get involved in MY threads? For that matter, why get involved in ANY thread? I am to understand that by being here you take that as a signal that I want a relationship with you? Or are those questions that need to be answered? Is there a rule somewhere that states if a question or response is added it indicates a desire for a relationship with the topic starter? I don't want anything from you. If there is a rule book of some kind that dictates this must pass thru you for your approval and a relationship with you,please post it. It appears you want to keep this alive and well. Go for it as it appears to make you happy. As to your questions tho, I don't feel obligated to give you an answer. Just as a little reminder. This is your post to me without me first responding to you in this thread.Is this to indicate a desire for a relationship? No thanks,you can have as many dysfunctional ones as you can wish Oooh, brother...are you real, Bonnie? Republicans moving to the left???? You ARE joking, right? 'Cus you are looking pretty stupid or are soooooo far right, that ANYTHING/EVERYTHING looks left to you....making you an extreemist, even for an conservative SDA.... Another that you posted to me first... Accountability for Torture Comment On second thought, don't answer anything here....it's not worth the board going thru another war.... ________________________ And another : Right Wing Terrorists [Re: bonnie] Neil D Offline Today, I ain't for sale. Check back tomorrow. Registered: 08/10/00 Posts: 14949 Loc: Ca., Id, Wa., Or. or somewhere... I had some biting humor up here, Bonnie...but I decided to take it down... I just don't want to exchange posts anymore... The exchanging of posts was your wish,not mine. And another Tea bags And another The health care debate And another R.I.P thread. Another thread I posted to you Hannity and Dick Morris Our Economy Is.... Go back and read your tone and name calling. Up to and including the determination of who has sold their soul. There are more as well. If this frequency is an indication that you want a relationship with me for some unknown reason,I respectfully decline. You are only a name/poster on the board as far as wanting any relationship with you or responding to you Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Key Guy Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 Everybody... Bonnie is here because she wants a relationship with me! (I hope that's right) Luv ya, girl. Neil, we can have a relationship, too! But, it would be a different kind of love since you're a guy. Quote
Woody Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 Opposites attract as we can see. Bonnie and Neil really do have something going . And as much as they claim they don't want a relationship ... A relationship it IS. Love is in the air. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
bonnie Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 Everybody... Bonnie is here because she wants a relationship with me! (I hope that's right) Luv ya, girl. Neil, we can have a relationship, too! But, it would be a different kind of love since you're a guy. Of course you are right. Haven't seen you in the wrong yet:)) Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Woody Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 Quote: Of course you are right. Haven't seen you in the wrong yet:)) KeyGuy ... like I said ... love is in the air . And you appear to be next. And thanks for the BD wishes. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Members phkrause Posted May 2, 2009 Members Posted May 2, 2009 Good one Redwood! pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Key Guy Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 Quote: KeyGuy ... like I said ... love is in the air . And you appear to be next. Next? I'm so full of love already (or at least full of something) Quote
Members phkrause Posted May 2, 2009 Members Posted May 2, 2009 Now that's funny too pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 Opposites attract as we can see. Bonnie and Neil really do have something going . And as much as they claim they don't want a relationship ... A relationship it IS. Love is in the air. I will survive nicely without a relationship with Neil and I am sure he can say same. That is one of those words or phrases as "love" "I am sorry" "friend" that is used so frequently and loosely they fail to have much meaning anymore. Relationships are built on mutual trust and respect. Anything less is as Neil said dysfunctional "he has enough dysfunctional relationships" While opposites attract ,as in my husband and myself,there are still core values that must be important by both involved. My husband is my total opposite but his core values reflect mine as my core values reflect his. Among those I count as friends or those I would like to become friends with,it has to be shared core values Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Woody Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 If only Neil was here ... we would have one happy family. I enjoy bringing people together. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
bonnie Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 If only Neil was here ... we would have one happy family. I enjoy bringing people together. No I don't think you do. You find you fun in other ways. Each to their own. I have a big happy family,thanks anyway Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
carolaa Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 While opposites attract ,as in my husband and myself,there are still core values that must be important by both involved.My husband is my total opposite but his core values reflect mine as my core values reflect his. Among those I count as friends or those I would like to become friends with,it has to be shared core values Very well said. Quote
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