Woody Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 I just met a guy named Cosmin at the Georgia Cumberland Campmeeting. in Christ, Bob BUMP Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
oldsailor29 Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 Brother Bob, You can find the statements at: www.spiritoftruthministry.net I will tell you that we (me too) totally agree with ALL of the ten commandments and ALL of the words (testimony) of Jesus as given to us by His eyewitnesses. Dr. Rich Commandments of God and testimony of Jesus are one in the same. Quote Prs God, frm whm blssngs flw http://www.zoelifestyle.com/jmccall
jasd Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 Quote: Quote:jasd QR frame: Not saying this or that - as who knows? but do dreams and/or 'visions' originate only from the 'light side' - or can they, y'know, originate from those without 'standing' ...that is, those from the 'dark side'? >>They come from both areas.<< Indeed, so much so that the very elect may be deceived. However, that said, I believe we are in Gd’s time when He will begin to manifest ‘miracles’, prophesying being but one of those miracles. It, however, behooves us to remember that Gd also said He manifests miracles to validate His workings and messages (to wit: the Exodus, the Christ becoming Immanuel Jesus, etc). [/paraphrased] During the ministries of Jesus Christ and that of the Apostles miracles occurred as commonplace. Still, we must remind ourselves that soonest – St Paul could not even heal himself; and so it remained for the most part until the present. Quote
LifeHiscost Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 ( Something in these messages steps on “their toes” or they have a boss telling them to reject this ministry “or else”.) This is not a criticism, for even long treatises are used by God to reach some. Just think of the sermon on the mount. Taking this post of yours as an example, Bob, how many people would you guess will arrive in the kingdom as a direct result of putting this series of "the proper way to determine whether Christ's coming is near"? There's no doubt of the balanced and thoughtful way you've arrived at your conclusion to enhance one's certainty in recognizing whether false or true information is being given. However I would suggest, at least from the company I keep, There is not one in 100 who will, even if they study the post you've written, remember the steps considered to be most conducive to discern between true and false (or misleading) guiding information. May I suggest a more simple "formula". "...guide me in your truth and teach me, for you are God my Savior, and my hope is in you all day long." Psalm 25:5 NIV "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come."John 16:13 NASB Blessings! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
LifeHiscost Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible."Matthew 24:24 NIV "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect."Matthew 24:24 NASB Blessings! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
jasd Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 Quote: Quote:jasd Indeed, so much so that the very elect may be deceived. >>"For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible."<< I guess it was St Fortunatus who had my backside when I utilized the term “may be deceived”, rather than ‘will be deceived”, yes? :-o Quote
BobRyan Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 Originally Posted By: BobRyan ( Something in these messages steps on “their toes” or they have a boss telling them to reject this ministry “or else”.) This is not a criticism, for even long treatises are used by God to reach some. Just think of the sermon on the mount. Taking this post of yours as an example, Bob, how many people would you guess will arrive in the kingdom as a direct result of putting this series of "the proper way to determine whether Christ's coming is near"? There's no doubt of the balanced and thoughtful way you've arrived at your conclusion to enhance one's certainty in recognizing whether false or true information is being given. However I would suggest, at least from the company I keep, There is not one in 100 who will, even if they study the post you've written, remember the steps considered to be most conducive to discern between true and false (or misleading) guiding information. All true - all true. But I post those ten points because I am very familiar with the standard arguments against accepting a prophet - and I like to be able to refer back to the post saying - well that objection would fail 3 of the ten tests that are posted. And if you think about it - most of those items are just common sense. I provide the Bible texts and Ellen White references in case someone has trouble seeing the point -- but none of it is rocket science. in Christ, Bob Quote John 8:32 - The Truth will make you free“The righteousness of Christ will not cover one cherished sin." COL 316.
BobRyan Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 False prophets are to be rejected (I think all actually get that point). And 1Thess 5:19-20 says that we are not to quench the Holy Spirit by rejecting the prophetic messages of those true prophets that HE sends our way. Kinda neat that the same Holy Spirit inspiring 1Thess 5:19-20 is also the SAME Holy Spirit sending us true prophets with His messages for us. No wonder HE tells us not to Quench the Spirit by rejecting HIS messages. in Christ, Bob Quote John 8:32 - The Truth will make you free“The righteousness of Christ will not cover one cherished sin." COL 316.
BobRyan Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 At each key transition point in salvation history - God sends prophets. (Like a canal pilot for an ocean going vessel). So the prophets he sends are not only to make us aware of the times - but the very existence of their own ministry is ITSELF one of the signs of the times! Secure From Satan's Seductive Delusions.—Men may get up scheme after scheme, and the enemy will seek to seduce souls from the truth, but all who believe that the Lord has spoken through Sister White, and has given her a message, will be safe from the many delusions that will come in these last days.--Letter 50, 1906. {3SM 83.5} 1. Accept God’s modern prophets in obedience to scripture. a. 1Thess 5:19-20. 1Cor 14:1, Luke 16:31, Zech 8:9 2. Accept God’s modern prophets – benefit  survival a. Prov 29:18 where there is no vision b. 2Chron 20:20 so you may prosper c. Amos 3:7 Be in sync with God’s current work – immediate future. Quote John 8:32 - The Truth will make you free“The righteousness of Christ will not cover one cherished sin." COL 316.
BobRyan Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 So a guestion for the group - does your church ever even talk about "Signs of the times"? Quote John 8:32 - The Truth will make you free“The righteousness of Christ will not cover one cherished sin." COL 316.
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