Beer Summit

[Woody]

The Beer Summit Obama style is coming up tomorrow. Just can't wait. Folks .... this is what we voted for and what we are gettin' ....

It will be covered live at 6 pm tomorrow. Be sure to tune into Fox.

[bonnie]

The Beer Summit Obama style is coming up tomorrow. Just can't wait. Folks .... this is what we voted for and what we are gettin' ....

I will be covered live at 6 pm tomorrow. Be sure to tune into Fox.

Just think of the opportunity this gives Gates and Obama. Surely more than cooperating with the police or in Obama's case shutting big mouth instead of saying"don't know the facts but the cop acted stupidly" Said by the most intelligent man to ever occupy the white house

[Woody]

Everyone was screaming racism ... but when the tapes were disclosed .... there was NO mention of race. I just heard the poor woman who reported the 911 call ... give a statement to the press. She had been falsely accused of racism . When the tapes were played ... this was clearly disproved.

Obama should keep his mouth shut until he knows the facts.

[phkrause]

Like to know why some reporter thought it necessary to ask the President about this? Did they just want to stir up some controversy, because they sure did.

pk

[bonnie]

Like to know why some reporter thought it necessary to ask the President about this? Did they just want to stir up some controversy, because they sure did.

pk

No one made the president to respond as he did. The reporter did not make Gates behave as he did.

This brillant man that holds this office might be expected not to condemn and call the actions of anyone stupid and then add he didn't know what happened.

Wonder why the president didn't stop to think that his careless remarks unjustified and uncalled for conduct may feed what he says he would like to stop.

It is his and Professor Gates responsibility,not the reporter.

Maybe he should just behave like an adult and leader of the country. Either keep his mouth shut or apologize when he says something this stupid and damaging

[phkrause]

I'm not saying that Obama is off the hook for his comments. I'm just wondering why no one is wondering how a news conference about health care all of a sudden gets hijacked into something else. I know that on this forum it doesn't take very long for all to get on anyone that hijacks the thread. But when the President makes a ignorant remake no one questions why the news conference is being hijacked. I'm pretty sure that if Bush were having a conference on Iraq and someone asked him a question about his drinking problems of 500 years ago, and Bush gave a ignorant answer, I know of a few people on this forum that would be on that like white on rice. I know for me as I was watching that news conference was why is this reporter asking a question that has nothing to do with the news conference. And I couldn't believe that the president was even answering it, let alone putting his foot in his mouth. He should have just said "No comment".

pk

[bonnie]

I'm not saying that Obama is off the hook for his comments. I'm just wondering why no one is wondering how a news conference about health care all of a sudden gets hijacked into something else. I know that on this forum it doesn't take very long for all to get on anyone that hijacks the thread. But when the President makes a ignorant remake no one questions why the news conference is being hijacked. I'm pretty sure that if Bush were having a conference on Iraq and someone asked him a question about his drinking problems of 500 years ago, and Bush gave a ignorant answer, I know of a few people on this forum that would be on that like white on rice. I know for me as I was watching that news conference was why is this reporter asking a question that has nothing to do with the news conference. And I couldn't believe that the president was even answering it, let alone putting his foot in his mouth. He should have just said "No comment".

pk

Call me a cynic but I don't think the question was a surprise.

It was asked as a last question.

The media tiptoes around this man and gets a thrill up their leg when he speaks,I doubt anyone would lay that one out there without Obama's knowledge.

As to him saying "no comment" it wouldn't still be a focus of attention if he had.

[bonnie]

I'm not saying that Obama is off the hook for his comments. I'm just wondering why no one is wondering how a news conference about health care all of a sudden gets hijacked into something else. I know that on this forum it doesn't take very long for all to get on anyone that hijacks the thread. But when the President makes a ignorant remake no one questions why the news conference is being hijacked. I'm pretty sure that if Bush were having a conference on Iraq and someone asked him a question about his drinking problems of 500 years ago, and Bush gave a ignorant answer, I know of a few people on this forum that would be on that like white on rice. I know for me as I was watching that news conference was why is this reporter asking a question that has nothing to do with the news conference. And I couldn't believe that the president was even answering it, let alone putting his foot in his mouth. He should have just said "No comment".

pk

With the attacks on this woman that called in to 911 what Obama created with his using the bully pulpit to make stupid,ill informed comments shows far more about the man that holds the highest office of the land.

When he can say "I really don't know anything about the incident but the cop was acting stupidly" he is either a racist himself or he is stupid. Stupid can't be it as he is reported to be the smartest man to hold this office. To bad he is not bright enough to act as we have all tried to instill in our very young children. A simple "I am sorry,what I said was out of line" would have spoke volumnes about this man. A lack of doing so has also spoken volumnes

[Woody]

Well .... it was SO nice that we previously had a president that didn't smoke or drink. Those were the good ol' days.

[Dr. Shane]

Where's the cigarette?

[bonnie]

Where's the cigarette?

Where is the apology?

[Woody]

I think he has gone into hiding with his smoking. And perhaps with his apologies also.

[bonnie]

I think he has gone into hiding with his smoking. And perhaps with his apologies also.

I doubt whether he will apologize. That would not give him nearly the mileage this does

[Dr. Shane]

He has already apologized. You folks just don't understand Harvard.

[lazarus]

Everyone was screaming racism ... but when the tapes were disclosed .... there was NO mention of race. I just heard the poor woman who reported the 911 call ... give a statement to the press. She had been falsely accused of racism . When the tapes were played ... this was clearly disproved.

Obama should keep his mouth shut until he knows the facts.

Why did the POLICE officer write in his report that she said there were "two black men with back packs" ?? somebody's not telling the truth here.

[bonnie]

He has already apologized. You folks just don't understand Harvard.

In our family we call that a apology with disclaimers. An sincere apology would have simply said,"I was wrong and had no right to say what I did"

Anything less is just an excuse

[lazarus]

Well .... it was SO nice that we previously had a president that didn't smoke or drink. Those were the good ol' days.

Which president was that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ViQMkqnToA

[Dr. Shane]

Read the comments, Pastor Lazarus.

"it's Buckler,which is basically, Heineken N/A."

We really need to be careful when talking about others. President Bush may have had his problems but he was a pretty good moral example. He did have a bit of a potty mouth at times but for the most part, he did a good job.

[lazarus]

Read the comments, Pastor Lazarus.

"it's Buckler,which is basically, Heineken N/A."

We really need to be careful when talking about others. President Bush may have had his problems but he was a pretty good moral example. He did have a bit of a potty mouth at times but for the most part, he did a good job.

"sigh" BROTHER Shane, most people know the story and that it wasn't alcoholic. I always like to stir the pot with Redwood.

"We really need to be careful when talking about others" are you kidding me with all the crazy talk about Obama on this politics forum. LOL.

By any measure George Bush did not do a good job. He failed at his first task of keeping the country safe. He cost the country Billions of dollars in a mistake that was the war in Iraq and there's this economic crisis thing!! He had very little domestic policy achievements. In every major area of responsibility Bush did a poor job. He didn't even deliver on the social issues.

[Woody]

All lies ... All lies.

And it's not nice to stir the pot with Redwood.

[bonnie]

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"We really need to be careful when talking about others" are you kidding me with all the crazy talk about Obama on this politics forum. LOL.

It would be so informative if you could pinpoint what is crazy talk about Obama?

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By any measure George Bush did not do a good job. He failed at his first task of keeping the country safe. He cost the country Billions of dollars in a mistake that was the war in Iraq and there's this economic crisis thing!! He had very little domestic policy achievements. In every major area of responsibility Bush did a poor job. He didn't even deliver on the social issues.

911 was a failure that any and all presidents would have made. Those like yourself would have mocked and condemned Bush if he had known and warned us a attack was likly and imminent

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country Billions of dollars in a mistake that was the war in Iraq

Because you say it was a mistake does not make it a reality.

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and there's this economic crisis thing!!

Yes,the economic thing. This economic thing belongs firmly in the lap of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. Bush brought this to their attention at least a dozen times, told them it was a trainwreck about to happen

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd ridiculed that fact and denied anything was wrong almost up to the the day this exploded.

Barney Frank now wants to turn around and do the same thing again

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He had very little domestic policy achievements. In every major area of responsibility Bush did a poor job. He didn't even deliver on the social issues.

Maybe the failed mortgage bailouts. Now that is hope and change working for you. "Come one,come all",if you lied on your mortgage we will help you. Great plan, Did you know it is failing as those that lied are behind in their mortgages again.

Social issues like health care,take some time and research how many times this had bills introduced.

Knowledge of what is in there is not necessary to people like yourself that back every word out of the mouth of Obama. Obama doesn't know,he has said so,his cronies don't know and refuse to read it as it would take 2 lawyers to explain it. Most that are backing it don't know either.

But pass that bill any way. WE will worry about what we passed later. Wrong or right we are doing something

Maybe you mean like Obama's enormous stimulus. Maybe the take over of the auto industry.

It would be interesting to see what you believe Obama's achievements are.

Could it be the 31 czars that he personally picked and answer only to him? Against the constitution but just step over that.

Could it be the most transparent administration ever

[lazarus]

It would be so informative if you could pinpoint what is crazy talk about Obama?

then uses his office and the so called press conference to use the race card.

He is blindly playing the race card.

I don't like when someone tries to take my freedoms as a american.

I think he is dishonest,a racist,and at the core a socialist.

This president thinks he is above the law. He proclaims someone guilty or innocent

Just watched a special on Blackbeard.

Now I am not proposing that our current pesty pirate should suffer the same demise ... but Blackbeard was beheaded and had his head displayed as a deterient. I wonder what kind of example we can make of our current pirate?

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911 was a failure that any and all presidents would have made.

You have a low opinion of American Presidents.

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Because you say it was a mistake does not make it a reality.

The war was fought to find WMD. There were none.

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Yes,the economic thing. This economic thing belongs firmly in the lap of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. Bush brought this to their attention at least a dozen times, told them it was a trainwreck about to happen

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd ridiculed that fact and denied anything was wrong almost up to the the day this exploded.

Barney Frank now wants to turn around and do the same thing again

Ridiculous!!! These two senators were not running the US economy. For 6 of 8 years Frank and Dodd had little real power.

Recession started Dec 2007!

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He had very little domestic policy achievements. In every major area of responsibility Bush did a poor job. He didn't even deliver on the social issues.

I see you didn't really try to counter that because i'm 100% correct.

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It would be interesting to see what you believe Obama's achievements are.

Here's some at random......

State Children’s Health Insurance Program passed expanding health coverage to 4 million children over the next 10 years.

Fuel economy standards

1st African American President

1st Latina supreme court justice (probably)

Gave order to close Gitmo in 1 year.

decision to abide by Geneva conventions

Reaching out to Muslim world in Egypt.

Challenge to Israel on Settlements.

Opportunity for GM and Chrysler to survive

Protected country from terrorist attack!!!!!

that will do for now

[bonnie]

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then uses his office and the so called press conference to use the race card.

I don't know the facts but I know the white officer acted stupidly

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He is blindly playing the race card.

Same as above

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I don't like when someone tries to take my freedoms as a american.

Telling me what I need for medical care.Pushing the bundling of medicare payments,paying my Dr so much a head whether he sees the patient or not. Penalizing the Dr for need to send patient to specialist.

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I think he is dishonest,a racist,and at the core a socialist.

His dishonest handling of AIG bonuses . His pretense at "being so angry he was all choked up at discovering the bonuese,When in fact he and cronies knew and approved many weeks beforeHis open and honest adminstration. His promises of what will and what won't be in his health care bill. He,by his own admission does not know what is in his bill.

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This president thinks he is above the law. He proclaims someone guilty or innocent

That is exactly what he just did with Professor Gates. He certainly is above the constitution and it's protection on contractual contract with the auto industry and the hiring 31 czars and ignoring the warnings from his own party that it was unconstitutional

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Just watched a special on Blackbeard.

Good for you,hope you enjoyed it

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Now I am not proposing that our current pesty pirate should suffer the same demise ... but Blackbeard was beheaded and had his head displayed as a deterient. I wonder what kind of example we can make of our current pirate?[.quote]

So??. Isn't that the way it was handled back then?? It probably would have been a memorable lesson. Captured pirates should be made an aexample.

911 was a failure that any and all presidents would have made.

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You have a low opinion of American Presidents

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I have a low opinion of most politicians. I believe many of them start with the best of intentions but end up prostituting themselves and their core values. I do believe that many from the other side of the aisle shared the opinion and concern over Iraq. The ones that said he had to go have now had a "little come to Jesus" meeting

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Because you say it was a mistake does not make it a reality.

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The war was fought to find WMD. There were none.

A conviction by many. If that is still your problem maybe you need to look up the list of democrats that supported that thought. Keep flogging them with this tired story. Many believed just that.

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Ridiculous!!! These two senators were not running the US economy. For 6 of 8 years Frank and Dodd had little real power.

Recession started Dec 2007

You go back and look. Are you really that ignorant of what happened with the housing mess? It didn't start in 2007.

Lenders that did not want to lend to a risky applicant could find themselves penalized because of foolish and I think dishonest Frank,HIs everyone has a right to own a home. To worry about repayment is being racist. If the applicant were upright and still breathing he qualified. What did anyone out of high school think would happen.

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I see you didn't really try to counter that because i'm 100% correct.

You are 100% WRONG. At the time I did not have the time and won't till a bit later. Have to take hubby to Dr before they start paying his DR per head and paying a penalty if he needs a specialist again

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[bonnie]

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State Children’s Health Insurance Program passed expanding health coverage to 4 million children over the next 10 years.

Obama didn't begin this.It also covers a great many children of middle income families. I believe it is between 50,000.00-75,000.00

If you have children and have that as income and don't insure your own children you should not be bring

A typical poor American family with children works only 800 hours during a year (16 hours of work per week).[9] If it worked 40 hours per week instead of 16, poverty would be mostly eliminated.[9]

Then perhaps you best be working more than 16 hours a week.

A typical American categorized as poor has good condition housing. Most have at least two rooms per person and more space than middle-class people in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. Over three quarters have a car and a third of poor Americans have two cars. Poor Americans have air conditioning, a refrigerator, a stove, a clothes washer and dryer, and a microwave oven, two color televisions, cable or satellite TV reception, a VCR or DVD player, and a stereo.[9][10] Most poor Americans report zero financial or material problems.[9]ing children into the world.

Work more than 16 hours a wekk. Get rid of the air conditioning,VCR,Cable DVD player,stereo and the second car. All of a sudden you can pay your own way.

What a novel idea.

Those 50,000.00 and above,pay your own way and then we can give adequetly to those that actually need it

[bonnie]

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Fuel economy standards

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1st African American President

If this is a achievement because Obama is a black man and that is why he was elected,How Sad.

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1st Latina supreme court justice (probably)

She probably will be,It is as sad as Obama being elected because he is a black man.

Her proven remarks coming from a white man and they would have been run out of town.

I could care less what her life experience. I would want to be judged by their knowledge of the law.

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Gave order to close Gitmo in 1 year.

Hasn't done so yet and when he does I hope he can find a way to park these inmates on the doorstep of many of you.

That is not necessarily a praise worthy event