Exactly 165 years Ago, Christ Entered the Most Holy Place

[tall73]

Howdy Bob, good to see you again.

Who said Jesus could not stand?

His sitting in Hebrews 10 though is clearly contrasted with the daily standing of the priests to offer. He didn't have to offer again and again.

And I don't know that anyone suggested that folks here thought Jesus does go to earth every day to be crucified again.

[BobRyan]

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The Bible is quite clear about the Most Holy.

At the death of Christ, the veil between the Holy and Most Holy was rent in two, indicating there was no longer two compartments

The Bible points to the fact that while the earthly sanctuary was in valid service -- the heavenly sanctuary was not. Thus there is no Bible argument at all for insisting that a given activity in the earthly sanctuary is indicating a present activity in the heavenly -- so no reason to suppose that the heavenly sanctuary had it's curtain torn.

Furthermore - the earthly sanctuary tearing of the curtain indicates the END of the useful service of the earthly sanctuary. IF we tried to bend that -- and apply it to the heavenly at that moment - while Christ was on the cross - then we would have the heavenly sanctuary "ending" BEFORE it had ever started.

By contrast Heb 8 tell us that the Heavenly sanctuary STARTED after the resurrection and ascension of Christ.

The Bible is clear on this point.

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

Exactly 165 years ago from Oct. 22 Christ entered The Most Holy Place to make the final atonement for our sins.

Scriptures to remember

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 1 pet 4:17,18

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Even so come Lord Jesus. Maranatha.

Good point.

Though some might want to "mix in" the fact that in the innaugural work of the sanctuary - both appartments are initially entered to begin the functioning service of the sanctuary.

That is followed by the Holy Place service and then by the MHP service at the end of the year.

in Christ,

Bob

[tall73]

First, could you please give the Scripture references which "clearly indicate" that Christ was in the Most Holy prior to 1844 (i.e., since His ascension)?

A couple of questions:

Do you believe that Jesus inaugurated at His ascension?

Do you believe that the inauguration included the WHOLE sanctuary and all the vessels of worship?

If you answer yes to the above then it seems that Jesus did go into the Most Holy Place at His ascension.

Now whether He stayed there would be the next question.

[tall73]

Though some might want to "mix in" the fact that in the innaugural work of the sanctuary - both appartments are initially entered to begin the functioning service of the sanctuary.

Bob, do you consider yourself among those who would see Jesus entering the sanctuary at His ascension and inaugurating, thereby going through the whole sanctuary?

I know we have discussed before, just getting your current position.

[tall73]

Originally Posted By: The Searcher

Did you know that the people were to humble themselves and ask God to cleanse them from sin on the Day of Atonement?

Yes, they were to search their souls in humility, and if they did not do so, they were to be cut off from the people of Israel. In other words, if they failed to afflict their souls on the Day of Atonement, their sins would not be forgiven, even though they had offered sacrifices throughout the year. Lev. 23: 28-30. Therefore, they were to search their heart, do no work, have a holy assembly, and put away every sin.

This same cutting off applied if they did not observe the Passover, as the passage from a recent SS lesson points out:

Num 9:13 But the man that is clean, and is not in a journey, and forbeareth to keep the passover, even the same soul shall be cut off from among his people: because he brought not the offering of the LORD in his appointed season, that man shall bear his sin.

[BobRyan]

Originally Posted By: BobRyan

Though some might want to "mix in" the fact that in the innaugural work of the sanctuary - both appartments are initially entered to begin the functioning service of the sanctuary.

Bob, do you consider yourself among those who would see Jesus entering the sanctuary at His ascension and inaugurating, thereby going through the whole sanctuary?

I know we have discussed before, just getting your current position.

Yes - that is my understanding.

The innauguration event opend the entire sanctuary for service -- then the Father and the Son begin the Sanctuary work in the Holy Place -- and in 1844 they moved to the Most Holy Place to begin the Daniel 7 work of judgment.

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

Howdy Bob, good to see you again.

[BobRyan]

Do you believe that Jesus inaugurated at His ascension?

Do you believe that the inauguration included the WHOLE sanctuary and all the vessels of worship?

If you answer yes to the above then it seems that Jesus did go into the Most Holy Place at His ascension.

Now whether He stayed there would be the next question.

However - as the earthly model points out - simply going into the sanctuary to innaugurate it for the start of service -- even though that includes the articles of the MHP -- does not begin the end of year MHP service nor negate the necessary Holy Place service that follows that innauguration.

in Christ,

Bob

[Guest]

Makes sense to me.

[tall73]

Originally Posted By: John317

Yes' date=' they were to search their souls in humility, and if they did not do so, they were to be cut off from the people of Israel. In other words, if they failed to afflict their souls on the Day of Atonement, their sins would not be forgiven, even though they had offered sacrifices throughout the year. Lev. 23: 28-30. Therefore, they were to search their heart, do no work, have a holy assembly, and put away every sin. [/quote']

This same cutting off applied if they did not observe the Passover, as the passage from a recent SS lesson points out:

Num 9:13 But the man that is clean, and is not in a journey, and forbeareth to keep the passover, even the same soul shall be cut off from among his people: because he brought not the offering of the LORD in his appointed season, that man shall bear his sin.

Some other items that would cause one to be cut off:

Eating leaven during the feast of unleavened bread.

Exo 12:15 Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. On the first day you shall remove leaven out of your houses, for if anyone eats what is leavened, from the first day until the seventh day, that person shall be cut off from Israel.

Making holy anointing oil

Exo 30:31 And you shall say to the people of Israel, 'This shall be my holy anointing oil throughout your generations.

Exo 30:32 It shall not be poured on the body of an ordinary person, and you shall make no other like it in composition. It is holy, and it shall be holy to you.

Exo 30:33 Whoever compounds any like it or whoever puts any of it on an outsider shall be cut off from his people.'"

Profaning the Sabbath

Exo 31:14 You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. Whoever does any work on it, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

Eating the peace offering while unclean

Lev 7:20 but the person who eats of the flesh of the sacrifice of the LORD's peace offerings while an uncleanness is on him, that person shall be cut off from his people.

Eating the fat of a food offering to the Lord.

Lev 7:25 For every person who eats of the fat of an animal of which a food offering may be made to the LORD shall be cut off from his people.

Eating blood

Lev 7:27 Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people."

Offering an animal at a location other than the sanctuary

Lev 17:3 If any one of the house of Israel kills an ox or a lamb or a goat in the camp, or kills it outside the camp,

Lev 17:4 and does not bring it to the entrance of the tent of meeting to offer it as a gift to the LORD in front of the tabernacle of the LORD, bloodguilt shall be imputed to that man. He has shed blood, and that man shall be cut off from among his people.

Participating in any of the listed sexual perversions in Lev. 18

Lev 18:29 For everyone who does any of these abominations, the persons who do them shall be cut off from among their people.

Eating the peace offering on the third day or later

Lev 19:5 "When you offer a sacrifice of peace offerings to the LORD, you shall offer it so that you may be accepted.

Lev 19:6 It shall be eaten the same day you offer it or on the day after, and anything left over until the third day shall be burned up with fire.

Lev 19:7 If it is eaten at all on the third day, it is tainted; it will not be accepted,

Lev 19:8 and everyone who eats it shall bear his iniquity, because he has profaned what is holy to the LORD, and that person shall be cut off from his people.

Lev 20:3 I myself will set my face against that man and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given one of his children to Molech, to make my sanctuary unclean and to profane my holy name.

Offering children to Molech

Lev 20:2 "Say to the people of Israel, Any one of the people of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech shall surely be put to death. The people of the land shall stone him with stones.

Lev 20:3 I myself will set my face against that man and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given one of his children to Molech, to make my sanctuary unclean and to profane my holy name.

Lev 20:4 And if the people of the land do at all close their eyes to that man when he gives one of his children to Molech, and do not put him to death,

Lev 20:5 then I will set my face against that man and against his clan and will cut them off from among their people, him and all who follow him in whoring after Molech.

Turning to a medium or necromancer

Lev 20:6 "If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.

Lying with a woman during her menstrual period

Lev 20:18 If a man lies with a woman during her menstrual period and uncovers her nakedness, he has made naked her fountain, and she has uncovered the fountain of her blood. Both of them shall be cut off from among their people.

A priest approaching the holy things while unclean

Lev 22:3 Say to them, 'If any one of all your offspring throughout your generations approaches the holy things that the people of Israel dedicate to the LORD, while he has an uncleanness, that person shall be cut off from my presence: I am the LORD.

Not keeping the passover

Num 9:13 But if anyone who is clean and is not on a journey fails to keep the Passover, that person shall be cut off from his people because he did not bring the LORD's offering at its appointed time; that man shall bear his sin.

Sinning high-handedly

Num 15:30 But the person who does anything with a high hand, whether he is native or a sojourner, reviles the LORD, and that person shall be cut off from among his people.

Num 15:31 Because he has despised the word of the LORD and has broken his commandment, that person shall be utterly cut off; his iniquity shall be on him."

Failing to cleanse yourself after touching a dead body

Num 19:13 Whoever touches a dead person, the body of anyone who has died, and does not cleanse himself, defiles the tabernacle of the LORD, and that person shall be cut off from Israel; because the water for impurity was not thrown on him, he shall be unclean. His uncleanness is still on him.

[tall73]

Originally Posted By: tall73

Do you believe that Jesus inaugurated at His ascension?

Do you believe that the inauguration included the WHOLE sanctuary and all the vessels of worship?

If you answer yes to the above then it seems that Jesus did go into the Most Holy Place at His ascension.

Now whether He stayed there would be the next question.

However - as the earthly model points out - simply going into the sanctuary to innaugurate it for the start of service -- even though that includes the articles of the MHP -- does not begin the end of year MHP service nor negate the necessary Holy Place service that follows that innauguration.

in Christ,

Bob

Well let us start with our areas of agreement.

1. We agree Jesus death was once for all. It is good that we agree on that.

But please recognize that the death of the animal was a key component of the Day of Atonement. So by agreeing with the above you note that a key portion of the Day of Atonement certainly did happen in the first century. The death of Jesus was a once-for-all historical event and will not be repeated. Most Adventists don't even blink when they hear that. They have long understood from the New Testament text that this portion of the Day of Atonement happened in the first century. But it is still not the same as we would expect from reading the type. From the type the death would happen at the same time as the service itself.

2. We agree that Jesus entrance at His ascension was through the whole sanctuary, including the MHP, or else He could no inaugurate. It is good that we agree on that.

However, please note that Jesus entrance at His inauguration was "once for all" just as His death was:

Heb 9:11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things that have come, then through the greater and more perfect tent (not made with hands, that is, not of this creation)

Heb 9:12 he entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption.

Just as Jesus' once-for-all death fulfilled all the deaths so Jesus' once-for-all entry fulfilled all the entries.

The Day of Atonement entry was an entry through the whole sanctuary, with blood. Jesus is seen to enter ONCE FOR ALL by means of blood through the sanctuary at His ascension. This fulfilled all the entries.

This, just like the once for all death of the sacrifice was not what one would expect just from a reading of the type, but this was far better, and still very much a fulfillment.

In the type it was Moses who did the inauguration, not the high priest. Which is the first difference we see here. But even then the high priest did not sit in the holy place all year and then go from the holy place to the most holy place on the Day of Atonement. Rather on the Day of Atonement the priest went all through the sanctuary, offering the animals (for his own sin and for the people), necessitating two entries for that one service.

Certainly Jesus did not do this. First He need not offer for His own sin as He is sinless. Second He entered once for all, right at the start, fulfilling all the entries. And I have never seen an Adventist who argues that Jesus withdraws from the sanctuary sometime before 1844 and then re-enters the whole thing.

So it appears that at least in some fashion Adventist agree that this is a once-for-all entry.

And so that is two elements of the Day of Atonement that started in the first century:

1. Once-for-all death of the sacrifice

The sacrifice was a key portion of the DOA

2. Once-for-all entry into the sanctuary.

The Day of Atonement involved entry through the whole sanctuary, which Jesus did at His ascension once for all, as He inaugurated.

So let Adventists ponder when they say that the Day of Atonement was not begun in the first century that they already must admit to two elements that were begun at that time.

These are historical, once-for-all events that will not be repeated.

[tall73]

does not begin the end of year MHP service

Can you demonstrate that the 10th day of the 7th month, the Day of Atonement, was the end of the Jewish year?

There were even 5 days between the Day of Atonement and the feast of tabernacles. And then the 7th month was not the last month of the year.

[tall73]

Please consider the following areas of the sanctuary type in which Jesus' fulfillment is BETTER. These elements of Jesus' better ministry are not just like what we would expect from reading the type. But they are nonetheless the fulfillment.

Jesus made a once-for-all sacrifice

The most familiar of these instances in which Jesus not only fulfilled but far surpassed the type is the once-for-all sacrifice of Christ. By Jesus' death He fulfilled all the sacrifices for every feast, for the daily, for the various sin offerings, peace offerings, for the inauguration, for the ratification of the covenant, etc. He fulfilled all the deaths of all the sacrifices in the whole sanctuary system.

Heb 7:27 He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered up himself.

Heb 10:11 And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.

Heb 10:12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God

This is not what would be expected from the type, but it is far better! From the type we would expect many sacrifices, repeated over and over. Moreover, we would expect that the sacrifice for a specific rite would occur at the time that rite was conducted. In other words, the blood for the Day of Atonement was shed on the Day of Atonement in the type. But in Christ we have one death, fulfilled at a definite point in history, that covers all the rites.

Here are some other instances in which Jesus' superior ministry results in some surprises, as outlined by the author:

Jesus is not a priest after Levi but after the order of Melchizedek

Heb 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, and in connection with that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.

Heb 7:15 This becomes even more evident when another priest arises in the likeness of Melchizedek,

Heb 7:16 who has become a priest, not on the basis of a legal requirement concerning bodily descent, but by the power of an indestructible life.

Heb 7:17 For it is witnessed of him, "You are a priest forever, after the order of Melchizedek."

Jesus does not have to offer for His own sin as He is sinless

Heb 7:26 For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.

Heb 7:27 He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered up himself.

Heb 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.

The earthly priest died, but Jesus always lives to make intercession for us

Heb 7:22 This makes Jesus the guarantor of a better covenant.

Heb 7:23 The former priests were many in number, because they were prevented by death from continuing in office,

Heb 7:24 but he holds his priesthood permanently, because he continues forever.

Heb 7:25 Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.

The inauguration was done by Moses, but Jesus as High Priest and King fulfilled the inauguration

Jesus opened a new and living way for us. The word for opened is the word for inauguration.

Heb 10:19 Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the holy places by the blood of Jesus,

Heb 10:20 by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh

Jesus made a once-for-all entry by means of blood.

Just as the death of Jesus as the sacrifice was once for all, Jesus' entry with His own blood is also stated to be once for all:

Heb 9:12 he entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption.

Now why do we accept these elements that are different from just what we would expect from the type? Because the text says they are true! And as Richard Davidson has noted in some cases the OT foreshadows these better fulfillments. The author of Hebrews spells out arguments for the sacrifice being once for all, and for the change of priesthood, etc.

From these we learn that when the New Testament interprets the type we need to accept it, even if it is not what we would initially think would happen from the type. This does not mean that there is no correlation between the type and the fulfillment. There clearly is. But there are also some surprises.

[BobRyan]

Here is a reference to Yom Kippor as the end of the Holy Days that you might find convenient -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur

Quote:

The Jewish year has four distinct starting points, according to the Mishnah, Rosh Hashanah 1:1:

The day most commonly referred to as the "New Year" is 1 Tishrei, when the formal New Year festival, Rosh Hashanah ("head of the year") is observed. (see Ezekiel 40:1, which uses the phrase "beginning of the year".) This is the civil new year, and the point at which the year number advances. Certain agricultural practices are also marked from this date.[12]

However, the first month of the year referred to in Exodus 12:2 is Aviv (now called Nisan): "This month shall be to you the beginning of months". This is referred to as the ecclesiastical new year, which means that the civil new year, Rosh Hashanah, actually begins in the seventh month of the ecclesiastical year.

And of course - that ends with the Day of Atonement

Quote:

Rosh Hashanah literally "head of the year," is a Jewish holiday commonly referred to as the "Jewish New Year." It is observed on the first day of Tishrei, the seventh month of the Hebrew calendar,[1] as ordained in the Torah, in Leviticus 23:24. Rosh Hashanah is the first of the High Holidays or Yamim Noraim ("Days of Awe"), or Asseret Yemei Teshuva (Ten Days of Repentance) which are days specifically set aside to focus on repentance that conclude with the holiday of Yom Kippur.

All this I am sure you already knew - so not sure why you wanted to go through it.

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

Please consider the following areas of the sanctuary type in which Jesus' fulfillment is BETTER.

Jesus made a once-for-all sacrifice

...

Heb 7:27 He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered up himself.

... In other words, the blood for the Day of Atonement was shed on the Day of Atonement in the type. But in Christ we have one death, fulfilled at a definite point in history, that covers all the rites.

Jesus is not a priest after Levi but after the order of Melchizedek

Jesus does not have to offer for His own sin as He is sinless

The earthly priest died, but Jesus always lives to make intercession for us

[tall73]

Here is a reference to Yom Kippor as the end of the Holy Days that you might find convenient -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur

Quote:

The Jewish year has four distinct starting points, according to the Mishnah, Rosh Hashanah 1:1:

The day most commonly referred to as the "New Year" is 1 Tishrei, when the formal New Year festival, Rosh Hashanah ("head of the year") is observed. (see Ezekiel 40:1, which uses the phrase "beginning of the year".) This is the civil new year, and the point at which the year number advances. Certain agricultural practices are also marked from this date.[12]

However, the first month of the year referred to in Exodus 12:2 is Aviv (now called Nisan): "This month shall be to you the beginning of months". This is referred to as the ecclesiastical new year, which means that the civil new year, Rosh Hashanah, actually begins in the seventh month of the ecclesiastical year.

And of course - that ends with the Day of Atonement

Quote:

Rosh Hashanah literally "head of the year," is a Jewish holiday commonly referred to as the "Jewish New Year." It is observed on the first day of Tishrei, the seventh month of the Hebrew calendar,[1] as ordained in the Torah, in Leviticus 23:24. Rosh Hashanah is the first of the High Holidays or Yamim Noraim ("Days of Awe"), or Asseret Yemei Teshuva (Ten Days of Repentance) which are days specifically set aside to focus on repentance that conclude with the holiday of Yom Kippur.

All this I am sure you already knew - so not sure why you wanted to go through it.

in Christ,

Bob

Bob, I am familiar with that article

But can you please highlight the portion of the above quote that says the year ends with the day of atonement?

And are you suggesting that you agree with the Mishnah on there being four distinct new years?

Can you show me from the Bible where there are four?

I can show you which month God said was the first month for the Israelites.

[tall73]

Originally Posted By: tall73

Please consider the following areas of the sanctuary type in which Jesus' fulfillment is BETTER.

Jesus made a once-for-all sacrifice

...

Heb 7:27 He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered up himself.

... In other words, the blood for the Day of Atonement was shed on the Day of Atonement in the type. But in Christ we have one death, fulfilled at a definite point in history, that covers all the rites.

Jesus is not a priest after Levi but after the order of Melchizedek

Jesus does not have to offer for His own sin as He is sinless

The earthly priest died, but Jesus always lives to make intercession for us

That part is already agreed to --

Jesus as High Priest and King sprinkled the "heavenly things" with "a better sacrifice" as Heb 9 points out during the innauguration of the heavenly sanctuary.

Quote:

Tall73

Jesus made a once-for-all entry by means of blood.

Again - I would simply point out that we all agree on these basic points.

in Christ,

Bob

Actually Bob I debate often with Adventists who do NOT accept that Jesus made a once for all entry in the first century, in the sense I described above, that it included the Day of Atonement entry. Some do, and some don't.

Now that sprinkling we will get to.

Can you please spell out your view of the sprinkling from Hebrews 9? I want to be sure I am not distorting your position.

[BobRyan]

Here is a reference to Yom Kippor as the end of the Holy Days that you might find convenient -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur

Quote:

The Jewish year has four distinct starting points, according to the Mishnah, Rosh Hashanah 1:1:

The day most commonly referred to as the "New Year" is 1 Tishrei, when the formal New Year festival, Rosh Hashanah ("head of the year") is observed. (see Ezekiel 40:1, which uses the phrase "beginning of the year".) This is the civil new year, and the point at which the year number advances. Certain agricultural practices are also marked from this date.[12]

However, the first month of the year referred to in Exodus 12:2 is Aviv (now called Nisan): "This month shall be to you the beginning of months". This is referred to as the ecclesiastical new year, which means that the civil new year, Rosh Hashanah, actually begins in the seventh month of the ecclesiastical year.

And of course - that ends with the Day of Atonement

Quote:

Rosh Hashanah literally "head of the year," is a Jewish holiday commonly referred to as the "Jewish New Year." It is observed on the first day of Tishrei, the seventh month of the Hebrew calendar,[1] as ordained in the Torah, in Leviticus 23:24. Rosh Hashanah is the first of the High Holidays or Yamim Noraim ("Days of Awe"), or Asseret Yemei Teshuva (Ten Days of Repentance) which are days specifically set aside to focus on repentance that conclude with the holiday of Yom Kippur.

All this I am sure you already knew - so not sure why you wanted to go through it.

[BobRyan]

Actually Bob I debate often with Adventists who do NOT accept that Jesus made a once for all entry in the first century, in the sense I described above, that it included the Day of Atonement entry. Some do, and some don't.

[BobRyan]

Tall73 -- your signature says "former Seventh-day Adventist" -- you are being a bit too modest are you not?

It could have said with even more accuracy "former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor" could it not?

(since I don't actually remember the details on this next point I ask for clarification here) -- I think it would be correct to say that you are also currently a pastor (of a non-SDA church of some kind) -- would it not?

(Just curious - you need not repond to the question if you prefer not to -- it has no bearing on the subject ... but since you opened that door in your signature line -- I thought to ask).

in Christ,

Bob

[tall73]

Bob, I am familiar with that article

But can you please highlight the portion of the above quote that says the year ends with the day of atonement?

[tall73]

Originally Posted By: tall73

Actually Bob I debate often with Adventists who do NOT accept that Jesus made a once for all entry in the first century, in the sense I described above, that it included the Day of Atonement entry. Some do, and some don't.

As noted in a previous post here - we all agree (as even you admitted we all agree) that Christ entered into the sanctuary once - (i.e. no need to go back out and "get another sacrifice"). I don't doubt that you may have engaged in some kind of discussion where someone got "turned around enough" to say they thought Jesus entered the sanctuary twice.

But that hardly establishes a reference point of SDA doctrine.

Bob, read again my statement. I said in the sense that includes the entry fulfilling the Day of Atonement entry. And there are a number of Adventists who do not think that, even though they do admit He entered the sanctuary once for all.

Yet once for all with blood, when His entry extended into the MHP to inaugurate, is pretty clearly once for all with blood. It is not to be repeated.

If you accept it great. Not all Adventists do.

[tall73]

Originally Posted By: tall73

Now that sprinkling we will get to.

Can you please spell out your view of the sprinkling from Hebrews 9? I want to be sure I am not distorting your position.

The sinner is sprinkled with the blood of Christ in vs 13-14.

This is the intercessory work of Christ as our High Priest and would be found in both the daily service and the MHP service.

[tall73]

Tall73 -- your signature says "former Seventh-day Adventist" -- you are being a bit too modest are you not?

It could have said with even more accuracy "former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor" could it not?