Re Doug Batchelor

[Stan]

While a lot of us, have strong positions on his opinions, I would hope we would never be willing to 'stone him' for giving his opinion on the recent issue nor other issues.

We also need to stop giving to much power to any individual.

Just my opinion.

[GreatLakesGramma]

What issue are you referring to?

[Gerr]

I have no quibble with Doug on most theological issues, but I strongly disagree with him and his predecessor Joe Cruise on the matter of jewelry. While I strongly believe in modesty, the proof texts strung together by Amazing Facts against jewelry, IMHO, is more eisegesis and not sound exegesis.

[phkrause]

While a lot of us, have strong positions on his opinions, I would hope we would never be willing to 'stone him' for giving his opinion on the recent issue nor other issues.

We also need to stop giving to much power to any individual.

Just my opinion.

I agree Stan, even if we disagree with them on certain points we should not stone them. And besides, at least for me, they have much more smarts when it comes to the Bible.

pk

[GreatLakesGramma]

Will someone please enlighten me as to what this is all about? Who is being given too much power? Power to do what?

[maric777]

indeed

[maric777]

i am totally suprised at this issue, i am a man but what if women are preaching Christ, it is not matter. What about the samartian woman did when she had met and recognized the Messiah? Fields are many and ready for reap but reapers are few; just go on sisters. P. S. Of course brothers are not exempt

[Neil D]

Will someone please enlighten me as to what this is all about? Who is being given too much power? Power to do what?

GLG-

Perhaps THIS might broaden your understanding.

[Stan]

The point I was trying to get at, is, not to let one person define what you believe.

Doug is giving his opinion on an issue, and some are willing and wanting to abandon or embrace Adventism over it.

[Gerr]

Or why did God appoint women prophets? How did they give their messages except by speaking and being in leadership positions?

[Stan]

Perhaps God is not an undereducated red neck?

[karl]

Perhaps God is not an undereducated red neck?

Do you want to stick with that wording? Shall we compare years in postgrad school or GPAs?

[Guest]

I think that is a heartless, cruel, and elitist thing to say Stan. What about us what be got no educatin, but we mean well?

[Daryl]

I think that in cases like this when it comes to responding to what a person says behind the pulpit, we need to focus more on the message rather than on the messenger.

[karl]

I think that is a heartless, cruel, and elitist thing to say Stan. What about us what be got no educatin, but we mean well?

Ya mean ta say ya ain't had no lernin?

[Guest]

Not very much I don't reckon. But my ticker is good. (hart)

[Tom Wetmore]

I think that in cases like this when it comes to responding to what a person says behind the pulpit, we need to focus more on the message rather than on the messenger.

Even when that messenger is a woman...

[GreatLakesGramma]

GLG-

Perhaps THIS might broaden your understanding.

[olger]

The point I was trying to get at, is, not to let one person define what you believe.

Doug is giving his opinion on an issue, and some are willing and wanting to abandon or embrace Adventism over it.

Good point, SS (Sir Stan).

oG

[Stan]

Perhaps God is not an undereducated red neck?

Perhaps God is not an overeducated ***blank*** either.

[Woody]

Is Stan getting censored and edited ... or are me eyes deceivin' me?

[nuff sed]

Who is going to censure /edit Stan except Stan???????????????

[Woody]

Who is going to censure /edit Stan except Stan???????????????

Well .... Praise God then because someone needed to !!! HA HA HA HO HO HO HE HE HE

[karl]

Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen

Perhaps God is not an undereducated red neck?

Perhaps God is not an overeducated ***blank*** either.

?????? What is up, here? Is this constructive?

[Kevin H]

I would like to make a comment on Doug B. Yes, he keeps making statements that make me look for a hole to hide in; but as years go by he's been making less and less of these statements. He is someone who keeps growing. He has come from someone who horrified me to someone who while I don't always agree with have come to appreciate. He is a man willing to look at evidence and grow. (as for this sermon; if I knew that he'd be reseptive and not just see it as an intrusion and just another gift book "Oh, you have so much free time on your hands you need to read this book" type of thing, I'd gladly give him Flemings: Attitudes towards Women in the Bible" for him to study.

But anyway, like my posts about Elton John on another thread, Doug B. has his faults, but look where he came from and how much he has grown.

Why is there a trend in Adventism to want people be born perfect (at least when they step out of the baptismal tank) It is one thing with people who are just stuborn and pushing their own agenda. But Doug is someone who has come a long, long way, and shows evidence of allowing his views to be questioned and to grow. I really respect that in him. We need to encourage that in him and not just criticize him because he is not perfect.