Does this cause________

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

I think the last honest journalist was Mark Twain.

[Neil D]

Fox News never ran a story about Ms Sherrod until AFTER she had already been fired.

Ok, Richard...Look, I'll concede that the Obama Administration fired Sherrod. But explain to me, why Bill O'Reilly had to apologize for his remarks on her the previous night??? Why did the official from the Depart. of Ag say that her edited tape was to be on Glenn Beck?

If FauxNews didn't run the tape, why was there the threat that she was to be on Glen Beck? If FauxNews didn't run the tape, why did O'Reilly apologize for not checking his facts?

Come on, Richard...I know you live on a different planet, but don't expect me to move in with you....

[cardw]

Yeah but nothin. Fox News is rarely ever wrong. You mainstream media guys are the ones who never check your facts. But then why check facts, when you know it's a lie to start with. One bald face lie after another.

You actually believe Fox News? That explains a lot.

Rupert Murdock owns controlling interest in Fox networks and he made his money publishing one of the major tabloid newspapers in the world. He made money making up news. He knows how to create inflammatory false stories to get people to read and watch. He is one of the most unethical, heartless, and ruthless men in the world.

Richard you really need to educate yourself and stop being duped by tabloid journalism. Fox News had been a major player in polarizing this nation simply to make a buck. It does our nation a disservice because it creates discord where there should be co-operation and healthy disagreement.

Fox News exaggerates, misrepresents, and outright lies to simply create controversy. It has no interest in the truth. Its only interest is to generate viewers so they can sell advertising. Calling Fox News journalism is like saying wrestling is real.

Through its influence I doubt you can call any American news real. That's why I listen to the BBC online, NPR, direct Reuters feed, and other more in depth news agencies.

Compared to Fox News I would say the Daily Show gives you better news than Fox as a comedy show. And they don't even bill themselves as news.

[Guest]

Fox News never ran a story about Ms Sherrod until AFTER she had already been fired.

[Woody]

Quote:

You just continued regurgitating what you've been told in the mainstream.

Yes Richard. I agree. I've noticed that libs just regurgitate what they like. Good thing we have a news channel that is fair and balanced. And also ... very hip. :)

[Neil D]

I see you haven't done any checking yet, like I asked you to. I kind of figured you wouldn't.

Andrew Breitbart ran the tape. ( http://www.breitbart.com/ ) And it wasn't edited, it was excerpted. (there's a difference) I don't know what Bill O'Reilly said that he needed to apologize for, but it wasn't for Fox running the story. He didn't say anything until after he saw the excerpted tape that Breitbart ran, and he jumped on the confusion bandwagon, like everybody else. But O'Reilly says stupid things all the time, that he needs to apologize for. But he rarely does.

The reason they said it would be on the Glen Beck show, is because after Breitbart ran the tape, they just figured it would be. Not because Fox News had ran anything.

Come on Neil, you really need to learn how to do your own homework. Don't be so lazy. I won't always be here to point you in the right direction. Even after I told what the truth was, and even pointed you in the direction you should go to check it out, you still didn't do it. You just continued regurgitating what you've been told in the mainstream. I think that's pretty sad. As long as you keep doing that, you never will have a clue.

To be fair, I looked at your link...There's nothing on there regarding Sherrod...I suspect that because Sherrod has threatened libel, they have taken down the EDITED version of what was posted.

And I still maintain 2 things, Richard. I still say that FAUXNEWS is not a news organization whose roots are in solid journalistic principles.Personally, I have come to the conclusion that it sells an agenda, sensational news that promotes the republican conservative view and blames anything democratic.

And second, Richard...here is your timeline...

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Monday

11:18 a.m.*: Breitbart posts Sherrod video, calls her "racist," claims "Context is everything."

Fox News amplifies Breitbart's deceptively edited video

12:13 p.m.: Hoft runs with Breitbart video.

12:55 p.m.: HotAir's Morrissey: "Breitbart hits NAACP with promised video of racism."

1:40 p.m. (approximately): Fox Nation accuses Sherrod of "discrimination caught on tape" before she resigned.

1:49 p.m.: Ace of Spades picks up Sherrod story, calls it an example of "your government, working for you."

3:31 p.m.: Elizabeth Scalia of the blog The Anchoress raises questions about the editing of Breitbart's video.

4:01 p.m. Ace of Spades reports that CBS' NYC affiliate picked up Sherrod story, declares, "Breitbart gets results."

4:28 p.m. (approximately): Sherrod story hits Drudge.

4:50 p.m.: Breitbart tweets to Media Matters: "Tomorrow's gonna be a long day."

7:51 p.m.*: Big Government links to a FoxNews.com article reporting that Sherrod had resigned and USDA repudiated her remarks.

8:21 p.m.: Allahpundit questions the video's editing, but says he will "assume Breitbart's edit is fair to the spirit of her remarks."

8:50 p.m.: O'Reilly airs Breitbart's Sherrod video

9:04 p.m.: "Fox News Alert": Hannity reports that Sherrod has resigned and discusses the incident with Gingrich.

Timeline of events

Of course, this is from a "liberal" blog and you will poo-hoo the link, but you wanted me to check it out...I have given you what you wanted....

Now, again, Richard, .... what planet are you from?

[Neil D]

If you forgive Letterman his explitive, you will get a general idea where I am coming from....

Letterman Curses

[Guest]

Gotta run right now, don't have time. But again, it was not edited. It was excerpted. And do you really think the mainstream media doesn't have an agenda? Come On!!!!

And your timeline is not totally correct. Do some more homework Neil. I will check your work when I get back. LOL, I will do a little more digging myself, if I have time before Sabbath. So that I can verify some things for you. Remember ignorance is no excuse. The truth is out there.....

PS. The Huffington Post is not what I'd call a bastion of truth.

[bonnie]

While this does not make the recent event right,it sounds like this woman is lacking a bit in dealing with black indivduals. Sounds like she has a "heart of gold"

Counter Punch,not a right wing anything

August 2, 2010

The Story of Annie Hawkins and New Communities, Inc.

The Other Side of Shirley Sherrod

By RON WILKINS

Imagine farm workers doing back breaking labor in the sweltering sun, sprayed with pesticides and paid less than minimum wage. Imagine the United Farm Workers called in to defend these laborers against such exploitation by management. Now imagine that the farm workers are black children and adults and that the managers are Shirley Sherrod, her husband Rev. Charles Sherrod, and a host of others. But it’s no illusion; this is fact.

The swirling controversy over the racist dismissal of Shirley Sherrod from her USDA post has obscured her profoundly oppositional behavior toward black agricultural workers in the 1970s. What most of Mrs. Sherrod’s supporters are not aware of is the elitist and anti-black-labor role that she and fellow managers of New Communities Inc. (NCI) played. These individuals under-paid, mistreated and fired black laborers–many of them less than 16 years of age–in the same fields of southwest Georgia where their ancestors suffered under chattel slavery.

When I first noticed the story of her firing and the association of Shirley Sherrod’s name with the rural black poor and concern for “black land-loss”, I wondered if the person being praised was the same Shirley Sherrod whom I knew. One piece posted on the July 23rd Alternet and captioned “Shirley Sherrod and the black Land Struggle” even claimed that she “devoted her entire life to economic justice”. The mistreatment of black workers at NCI under the Sherrods is a matter of record that contradicts this claim.

If confession is good for the soul, then Mrs. Sherrod took a first step toward her redemption by admitting the error of her ways in her earlier attitudes toward poor white farmers. Mrs. Sherrod says she began to see poverty as more central than race. So, should indigent black child farm laborers warrant less reflection by Mrs. Sherrod? What lessons does she have to share from her tenure as management when she had power over her own people working under deplorable conditions at the same New Communities, Inc.(NCI) identified in the current issue? Shirley Sherrod could have included this chapter of her history in the same confession speech. Justice and integrity require at least as much accountability from Mrs. Sherrod to the poor black farm workers of NCI as to the white farmers she came to befriend. This lack of full disclosure of the whole truth is a “sin of omission” that trivializes the suffering of poor black farm workers and exacerbates the offenses of NCI.

Shirley Sherrod was New Communities Inc. store manager during the 1970s. As such, Mrs. Sherrod was a key member of the NCI administrative team, which exploited and abused the workforce in the field. The 6,000 acre New Communities Inc. in Lee County promoted itself during the latter part of the 1960s and throughout the 70s as a land trust committed to improving the lives of the rural black poor. Underneath this facade, the young and old worked long hours with few breaks, the pay averaged sixty-seven cents an hour, fieldwork behind equipment spraying pesticides was commonplace and workers expressing dissatisfaction were fired without recourse.

The unfortunate story of Mrs. Annie Hawkins and her family in particular is instructive. Persuaded by NCI that their lot would be improved, the Hawkins family stole away from the Georgia plantation that they had called home. After suffering abuse meted out to them and others at NCI, Mrs. Hawkins sadly stated that, “We stole away from one plantation, but just ended up on another.” For her courageous role in demonstrations against the Sherrods and NCI management, Annie Hawkins and her family were fired and kicked out of the house that they were promised. My last encounter with an ailing Mrs. Hawkins took place several years ago in a nursing home where she resided.

Worker protest at New Communities eventually garnered some assistance from the United Farm Workers Union in nearby Florida in the person of one of its most formidable organizers, black State Director, the late Mack Lyons. The September 28, 1974 UFW newspaper El Malcriado, page two, reported on the worker’s strike (“Children Farm Workers Strike Black Co-op” www.farmworkermovement.org/ufwarchives) and the UFW stepped in to protect black farm workers from exploitation by NCI. Fearful of both UFW efforts to unionize NCI’s labor force and scrutiny by the Georgia State Wage and Hour Division, the Sherrods and NCI management hastily issued checks in varying amounts to strikers to makeup ostensibly for minimum wage differentials. It is bitter irony that the Sherrods have succeeded in being awarded $300,000 following a discrimination lawsuit, while Mrs. Hawkins and other impoverished NCI black laborers whom NCI exploited were never adequately compensated for their “pain and suffering”.

While it is true that loan discrimination and relentless creditors can be cited for the eventual demise of New Communities Inc. in 1985, NCI’s unfair labor practices and poor leadership, were equally, if not more, to blame. Ask Shirley Sherrod about this part of her history. I know this story well, for I was one of those workers at NCI.

Ron Wilkins is a former organizer in the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. In 1974, under an assumed name, he hired-on at New Communities Inc. The Emergency Land Fund, an Atlanta-based black land retention organization, which shared oversight responsibility for NCI’s progress, wanted to know the basis for NCI’s continued poor performance. The author’s secondary purpose was to develop agricultural skills. For his role in organizing NCI’s workers, management eventually fired him from his $40 per week position, evicted him from the rent-free shack on NCI property and orchestrated his arrest, on bogus charges, by FBI agents and Lee County, Georgia Sheriff’s deputies in the midst of an NCI labor protest. The charges were later dropped. Presently he is an Africana Studies professor at California State University, Dominguez Hills. He can be reached at: rwilkins@csudh.edu

[Guest]

While this does not make the recent event right,it sounds like this woman is lacking a bit in dealing with black indivduals. Sounds like she has a "heart of gold"

Counter Punch,not a right wing anything

August 2, 2010

The Story of Annie Hawkins and New Communities, Inc.

The Other Side of Shirley Sherrod

By RON WILKINS

Imagine farm workers doing back breaking labor in the sweltering sun, sprayed with pesticides and paid less than minimum wage. Imagine the United Farm Workers called in to defend these laborers against such exploitation by management. Now imagine that the farm workers are black children and adults and that the managers are Shirley Sherrod, her husband Rev. Charles Sherrod, and a host of others. But it’s no illusion; this is fact.

The swirling controversy over the racist dismissal of Shirley Sherrod from her USDA post has obscured her profoundly oppositional behavior toward black agricultural workers in the 1970s. What most of Mrs. Sherrod’s supporters are not aware of is the elitist and anti-black-labor role that she and fellow managers of New Communities Inc. (NCI) played. These individuals under-paid, mistreated and fired black laborers–many of them less than 16 years of age–in the same fields of southwest Georgia where their ancestors suffered under chattel slavery.

When I first noticed the story of her firing and the association of Shirley Sherrod’s name with the rural black poor and concern for “black land-loss”, I wondered if the person being praised was the same Shirley Sherrod whom I knew. One piece posted on the July 23rd Alternet and captioned “Shirley Sherrod and the black Land Struggle” even claimed that she “devoted her entire life to economic justice”. The mistreatment of black workers at NCI under the Sherrods is a matter of record that contradicts this claim.

If confession is good for the soul, then Mrs. Sherrod took a first step toward her redemption by admitting the error of her ways in her earlier attitudes toward poor white farmers. Mrs. Sherrod says she began to see poverty as more central than race. So, should indigent black child farm laborers warrant less reflection by Mrs. Sherrod? What lessons does she have to share from her tenure as management when she had power over her own people working under deplorable conditions at the same New Communities, Inc.(NCI) identified in the current issue? Shirley Sherrod could have included this chapter of her history in the same confession speech. Justice and integrity require at least as much accountability from Mrs. Sherrod to the poor black farm workers of NCI as to the white farmers she came to befriend. This lack of full disclosure of the whole truth is a “sin of omission” that trivializes the suffering of poor black farm workers and exacerbates the offenses of NCI.

Shirley Sherrod was New Communities Inc. store manager during the 1970s. As such, Mrs. Sherrod was a key member of the NCI administrative team, which exploited and abused the workforce in the field. The 6,000 acre New Communities Inc. in Lee County promoted itself during the latter part of the 1960s and throughout the 70s as a land trust committed to improving the lives of the rural black poor. Underneath this facade, the young and old worked long hours with few breaks, the pay averaged sixty-seven cents an hour, fieldwork behind equipment spraying pesticides was commonplace and workers expressing dissatisfaction were fired without recourse.

The unfortunate story of Mrs. Annie Hawkins and her family in particular is instructive. Persuaded by NCI that their lot would be improved, the Hawkins family stole away from the Georgia plantation that they had called home. After suffering abuse meted out to them and others at NCI, Mrs. Hawkins sadly stated that, “We stole away from one plantation, but just ended up on another.” For her courageous role in demonstrations against the Sherrods and NCI management, Annie Hawkins and her family were fired and kicked out of the house that they were promised. My last encounter with an ailing Mrs. Hawkins took place several years ago in a nursing home where she resided.

Worker protest at New Communities eventually garnered some assistance from the United Farm Workers Union in nearby Florida in the person of one of its most formidable organizers, black State Director, the late Mack Lyons. The September 28, 1974 UFW newspaper El Malcriado, page two, reported on the worker’s strike (“Children Farm Workers Strike Black Co-op” www.farmworkermovement.org/ufwarchives) and the UFW stepped in to protect black farm workers from exploitation by NCI. Fearful of both UFW efforts to unionize NCI’s labor force and scrutiny by the Georgia State Wage and Hour Division, the Sherrods and NCI management hastily issued checks in varying amounts to strikers to makeup ostensibly for minimum wage differentials. It is bitter irony that the Sherrods have succeeded in being awarded $300,000 following a discrimination lawsuit, while Mrs. Hawkins and other impoverished NCI black laborers whom NCI exploited were never adequately compensated for their “pain and suffering”.

While it is true that loan discrimination and relentless creditors can be cited for the eventual demise of New Communities Inc. in 1985, NCI’s unfair labor practices and poor leadership, were equally, if not more, to blame. Ask Shirley Sherrod about this part of her history. I know this story well, for I was one of those workers at NCI.

Ron Wilkins is a former organizer in the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. In 1974, under an assumed name, he hired-on at New Communities Inc. The Emergency Land Fund, an Atlanta-based black land retention organization, which shared oversight responsibility for NCI’s progress, wanted to know the basis for NCI’s continued poor performance. The author’s secondary purpose was to develop agricultural skills. For his role in organizing NCI’s workers, management eventually fired him from his $40 per week position, evicted him from the rent-free shack on NCI property and orchestrated his arrest, on bogus charges, by FBI agents and Lee County, Georgia Sheriff’s deputies in the midst of an NCI labor protest. The charges were later dropped. Presently he is an Africana Studies professor at California State University, Dominguez Hills. He can be reached at: rwilkins@csudh.edu

Wow Bonnie, this is enlightening. Why don't you send this over to MSNBC and see if they'll run it in tonight's programming line up? LOL They ARE all about telling the truth over there, right?

[Neil D]

Gotta run right now, don't have time. But again, it was not edited. It was excerpted. And do you really think the mainstream media doesn't have an agenda? Come On!!!!

And your timeline is not totally correct. Do some more homework Neil. I will check your work when I get back. LOL, I will do a little more digging myself, if I have time before Sabbath. So that I can verify some things for you. Remember ignorance is no excuse. The truth is out there.....

Huffington post aint the only timeline

[Neil D]

apparently, I am not the only one who feels that Fauxnews bears some serious complacency

letter of the day

[bonnie]

apparently, I am not the only one who feels that Fauxnews bears some serious complacency

letter of the day

You are one of the few reading the Strib.MN is a very liberal state.Not much is newsworthy unless it somehow is connected to race or discrimination .

Interesting little piece right underneath the article you referenced.That is quite a admission to be printed in the Strib

All media is biased however FOX is the whipping boy since most media is far left of center

Fox was the most fair and balanced in the 2008 election cycle. That’s the conclusion of a new study: The CMPA study compares ABC, CBS ( CBS – news – people ) and NBC evening news shows and the first half hour of Fox News Channel’s Special Report, which most closely resembles its broadcast news counterparts. (CNN and MSNBC have no comparable flagship evening news show; more on Fox’s polarizing talk shows momentarily.) So how could Fox have both the most balanced and the most anti-Obama coverage? Simple. It’s because the other networks were all so pro-Obama. CMPA analyzed every soundbite by reporters and nonpartisan sources (excluding representative of the political parties) that evaluated the candidates and their policies. On the three broadcast networks combined, evaluations of Obama were 68% positive and 32% negative, compared to the only 36% positive and 64% negative evaluations of his GOP opponent John McCain.

[Neil D]

Here is the clip from Media Matters that shows the origional story from Faux News.

And btw, Faux News, it seems has taken down thier YouTube clips of this...at least, i couldn't find it....

FauxNews and thier first clip of Shirley Sherrod

And you might, if you have an open mind, read what Media Matters has to say on this clip....much more damning than I am...

[bonnie]

Here is the clip from Media Matters that shows the origional story from Faux News.

And btw, Faux News, it seems has taken down thier YouTube clips of this...at least, i couldn't find it....

FauxNews and thier first clip of Shirley Sherrod

And you might, if you have an open mind, read what Media Matters has to say on this clip....much more damning than I am...

Media Matters?? That unbiased org.No thanks.I don't care who they are damning.

It seems you want to keep beating a dead horse. It was wrong but I don't believe it was deliberate.Regardless she is owed a apology. She is also owed an explanation and apology from the whit house. The president has no problem condemning a PO as acting stupidly while admitting he did not know what he was talking about.Why was this such a rush to judgement?

Nor was Shirley Jerrod the target,the NAACP was and they proved to enjoy the racist part of her story.

What would you like to be done?

[phkrause]

Neil not sure what the problem is? Seems pretty elementary to me. This time line has been on every news station. And the least person responseble has apologized before those that needed to. And the person the most responseble has yet to apologize, and as a matter of fact has been taken in with open arms by many. Unreal!!!!!