Christians and proposed laws that are considered immoral.

[doug yowell]

Isn't it interesting that we can respect everyones right to impact law in a country, except Christians rights?

We have imbibed the idea that it is wrong to discriminate.

God discriminates.

It is not wrong to discriminate against evil...

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil."

[doug yowell]

Originally Posted By: Gerry Cabalo

What is to be a Christian's attitude towards a proposed enactment of a law that he/she considers immoral/sinful? For instance, many Christians consider legalizing addictive drugs which are presently considered illegal, or same sex marriages, or polygamy, etc. This is NOT a discussion about a particular immoral/sinful practice, it is rather a discussion about the attitude/position a Christians takes. Can a Christian consider something sinful/immoral and yet as a matter of public policy endorse it? How?

In the 19th century the Adventist Church was very politically active fighting against immoral laws and practices - such as slavery (value of human life) and the sale of alcohol (right to privacy).

We keep thinking that these issues only came up recently - they have been around for a long time - we already have good sound advice on what our obligation is in this case.

in Christ,

Bob

Another GP.Mr. Ryan.Quite appropo.

[Gregory Matthews]

Doug took issue with me when I stated that God gives us the right to sin. He suggested that God gives us the option to sin.

Perhaps it would have been better if I has said: God allows us to chose to sin.

[Gerr]

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So tell me which 'sinful behavior' would you like to see legislated, just a couple, a handful, where do you stop?

People here are insinuating that government should legislate against homo marriage because they consider it sinful. Okay, you have that right. Go for it! It won't be the first time in history!

I started this thread because I am struggling with the question - how do you and I as Christians relate to proposed laws that we consider immoral and sinful. While I believe that I have no right to intrude on the rights of people to do what they please in their private lives, what do we do we laws that have an impact on society at large that only leads to a downward spiral that in the end affects the well-being of everyone?

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Does anyone ever, ever understand why persons such as Cardw gave up on Christianity? I guess everyone has blinders and earplugs at work. Its always about what the other person/s are doing wrong, what is a sin or what isn't, etc, etc.

I left the church once. Was it somebody else's fault? Did I blame the bland sermons? Racism in the church? etc. etc.? No, I left because I wanted to. Young people are reportedly leaving their churches (not just an SDA phenomenon), and blame are thrown about every which way. Church too strict. Church too lax. In the end one cannot live on hand me down religion. One has to discover it for him/herself.

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Yeah, I know....followers of God are supposed to point out sin! I have a suggestion for everyone....all those w/o sin may pick up a stone...you know the rest! Oh, excuse me, I forgot...such commands don't apply in this case..yada-yada-yada!!

So then, because we too are sinners, we should just shut up and let society do whatever it wants no matter where they are headed? The majority of Germans kept their mouth shut when Hitler came to power. The majority of Southern Christians kept their mouth shut while Blacks got lynched or hanged, deprived of the basic rights of citizens. Unions keep non-union members from working in the same place, and we are to shut up? Irresponsible fathers, unwed mothers continue to have babies after babies supported by society, and we're suppose to shut up?

[Dr. Shane]

So tell me which 'sinful behavior' would you like to see legislated, just a couple, a handful, where do you stop?

[Woody]

The courts have ruled that Freedom of Speech allows us to lie about our service record. We are free to state that we have received the Metal of Honor when we haven't.

[Gregory Matthews]

Yes, that is the ruling of one Federal District Court.

However, no court has ever ruled that Freedom of Speech allowes one to commit fraud.

IOW, one can not falsely claim to have been given the Medal of Honor in order to obtiain fraudulently services that one would not otherwise be able to recieve.

NOTE: The right to falsely claim to have a military award/decoration should not at this time be construed to be a right to falsely display such an award/decoration.