The Great Tribulation is passing

[remnant]

If Cesare Borgia is the Anti-Christ and the False Prophets are amoung us, then the time line changes with everything.

It is amusing how people are taking out their calculators and adding things trying to find out the last day. People are looking to the sky waiting for the Lord. People are not understanding that they are doing "as they will" and not repenting from their sins. The remnant must come out the great tribulation and wash themselves in the blood of the Lamb, for Salvation to come into effect. From that everyone will know what is Salvation.

God's people have been and are still going through the great tribulation. The truth is muffled out of the world. And the Abomination of Desolation has come to pass in the most unimaginable way.

The mysterious Babylon has been spinning it's web of deception fooling even the elect, if possible, to forsake their Lord and worship the Devil. These terrible things and times must be cut short for the elects' sake. If not, no one would be saved, for salvation is of the Jews.

It confuses me how everyone is claiming to be the Jews. The name has become a universal slogan. To believe is not to become a Jew. The Jews fate was and is a horrible one, which consisted of slavery and great sorrow. There is no american fitting that description. Is there?

The truth is that the people of the world are taught to care for and love the evil ones who have no poverty and live in sin. They are taught to love the ones that destroy the world daily. These people wish to sit in the throne of God and be praised. But is such a thing possible? Can the evil one sit in the seat of God? Yes, in a way, and only for a short time. They or he can pose as God before men. To fool mankind has its reward. To kill the saints has its reward. To blaspheme the Holy Spirit has its reward. The Lake of Fire is the reward!

Blessed are those who do not fall to deception in these horrible times.

[Gail]

So... what do you believe is the Great Tribulation?

and...

Who do you know that is claiming to be a Jew?

[Planey]

If Cesare Borgia is the Anti-Christ

What justification do you have for this outlandish statement????

[remnant]

Can you see the great destruction going on around you? The one's that are forgotten and being destroyed are in the great tribulation. Many are washing their robes in the blood of the Lamb. They are not sitting comfortable in a Devil worshipping society. The Devil has been going after the chosen elect and those good samaritans who comfort them.

Those who do not know the Jews, are posing as Jews. Trust God when He says, those who say they are Jews but are not. How hard is it to get into Heaven if you don't know who are the Jews?

The Bible describes the Jews character, but yet who know the Jews? This is a lack luster society that doesn't battle spiritual wickedness in high places. This once beautiful country has always gave their hearts to their leaders.

Slavery of the blacks has left a deadly wound on this country's head. Man can forget, but God punishes four generations deep until they wake up and repent.

Does the enslaved blacks claim any rights to the Great tribulation? This country doesn't want to recompense them! Those fathers have damned their own children.

[remnant]

Originally Posted By: remnant

If Cesare Borgia is the Anti-Christ

What justification do you have for this outlandish statement????

Do you know his life story? Do you know why his picture is the IMAGE of Christ? That is my justification. It has all of the qualities that contradict the Bible teachings. If you believe such a man is worthy to stand as the image of Christ, I say, when you look to the sky for the Lord, have on battle gear, because you delight in a lie. Cesare Borgia is not the image of the Lord.

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

Can you see the great destruction going on around you? The one's that are forgotten and being destroyed are in the great tribulation. Many are washing their robes in the blood of the Lamb. They are not sitting comfortable in a Devil worshipping society. The Devil has been going after the chosen elect and those good samaritans who comfort them.

Those who do not know the Jews, are posing as Jews. Trust God when He says, those who say they are Jews but are not. How hard is it to get into Heaven if you don't know who are the Jews?

The Bible describes the Jews character, but yet who know the Jews? This is a lack luster society that doesn't battle spiritual wickedness in high places. This once beautiful country has always gave their hearts to their leaders.

Slavery of the blacks has left a deadly wound on this country's head. Man can forget, but God punishes four generations deep until they wake up and repent.

Does the enslaved blacks claim any rights to the Great tribulation? This country doesn't want to recompense them! Those fathers have damned their own children.

This is the most bizarre piece of rambling that I've read in quite some time. And to end it up with the "race card"...goodness.

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[remnant]

The truth can be damaging to some, but liberating to others. Some believe hiding in the dark will make everything wash away. We ALL have sin and must repent, but some will say they are righteous while continuing to live in sin. This shows the Devil is wrecklessly destroying people in these times. God chosen people are the focus.

Being filled with righteousness also means reconciling with your opposition. What did the Lord say about if someone sue you? Give them what? A Christian must not only do good to his own, but to others as well.

We as Americans are multicultural, many races. Our leaders made mistakes all over the world. We must show repentance to these people offended. We must not stand behind wickedness in any manner. I live in this country and see the sin in it. I know there are other countries committing great sin as well.

So we all must wake up and TRY to do all the Lord has asked us to do. Remember his burden is light. He knows there is only so much anyone can do. Don't flip out because the task seems heavy. God's people will be around to help you before you know it.

[Tom Wetmore]

Ditto!

[abelisle]

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[fccool]

The truth can be damaging to some, but liberating to others. Some believe hiding in the dark will make everything wash away. We ALL have sin and must repent, but some will say they are righteous while continuing to live in sin. This shows the Devil is wrecklessly destroying people in these times. God chosen people are the focus.

I think, a great place to start is to lay out some of your core beliefs in concise manner regarding what you are talking about. It's a bit vague and unclear right now to simply jump out and say we've been living in times of great tribulation and Antichrist is a Character brought back from the obscure history in the Assassins' Creed II game , which resources you reference?

I don't find any particular problem with naming this guy AN antichrist. Probably does not really fit the description of the Rev. Antichrist though.

[LifeHiscost]

Blessed are those who do not fall to deception in these horrible times.

[Twilight]

I should say:

*gobsmacked*

[Twilight]

All this pious talk of treating others with respect, then this.

[Twilight]

Remnant, I do not agree with many of the things you are saying.

I do agree with many of the things you are saying as well though.

But what I strongly disagree with, is the way many on here have treated you.

Especially those that would like to portray themselves as "pillars of this community".

I apologise on their behalf my friend.

It is disgusting the way you are being mocked here.

Mark :-(

[Stan]

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Do you know his life story? Do you know why his picture is the IMAGE of Christ? That is my justification. It has all of the qualities that contradict the Bible teachings. If you believe such a man is worthy to stand as the image of Christ, I say, when you look to the sky for the Lord, have on battle gear, because you delight in a lie. Cesare Borgia is not the image of the Lord.

There have been hundreds who have posed as Christ for a portrait. Any time he looks like a northern European, it is a 'bit off'

The real Christ was part African and mostly Jewish..... turns out not Danish at all

I think it is the Free Methodist Church that does not approve of any imagines of Christ in their Church or homes.

It is offensive to some Jews, to see Christian hand a picture of their God on their wall.

[Dr. Rich]

And my I ask, just when did the Great Tribulation start?

Oh, and did I sleep through all of the trumpets as found in Rev. 8 and 9? Hmmm?

[remnant]

The true image of Christ changes colors and races. Paint isn't good enough to describe the Lord.

The greatest portrait of Christ, I've seen many times. I must say, the most beautiful one I saw was, in the heart of a Filapino woman. She carried a beautiful image of kindness, thoughtfulness, compassion, loving, and so much more. Her face would glow. It made her look young to her peers. She loved her enemies and friends. I remember seeing her sharing her lunch with a group of people who spoke out against her and behind her back. She had her flaws like everyone else, but it was something about how she carried herself. I would say, she had a heart full of compassion. She was a crier, I thought she cried too much. I never witnessed her do anyone wrong or act with spite towards her enemies. She served her friends hand and foot. She was one of many that I would call the epidemy of what Christ-like means. I called the Bunny. Her name was Benny B.

The next I could think of was a black lady nobody liked. Her tongue was like a sharp edge sword. She took nothing from no one. She wasn't pretty to society's level, but her heart caused her to glow with beauty to those that look. I knew she was not the mean person that people made her out to be. I knew the other people were treating her badly and with disrespect. As we all know there are some people that haven't had good home training. Those people need a little kick in the butt to get them to act right. Well, this lady did just that. She was battle tested, she literally reigned over the people. I laughed a lot watching her chasten the wicked people acting wickedly. Her compassion was like deep waters. Not many people wanted to look at that side of her, but God knows her. She is a true portrait of Christ.

It doesn't matter what race or color you are the Lord will shine through with his image. The world will see this image whether they like the image or not. It is up to us to like the image or hate it. Which do you practice? Love or hate? These two types practiced love and are indicitive of those who wash their robes with the blood of the Lamb in these times of great tribulation.

[John317]

...Slavery of the blacks has left a deadly wound on this country's head. Man can forget, but God punishes four generations deep until they wake up and repent.

Would God punish me because some of my ancestors had slaves? I didn't have anything to do with it, and I've always tried to be kind and thoughtful toward people of other races even when some of them have done bad things to me. I don't blame a whole race or religion for what some of them do, and I don't think it's right to blame all whites for what some white people have done. (I don't believe you are doing this, but I'm only saying that it's wrong for anyone to do it, no matter what the race or religion.)

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Does the enslaved blacks claim any rights to the Great tribulation? This country doesn't want to recompense them! Those fathers have damned their own children.

Recompense who and for what? If you're talking about recompensing blacks because of slavery, I don't believe that would be right, either.

I believe slavery was definitely wrong and terribly evil and that the country is paying the price every day for enslaving their fellow man, but God wants both white and black and all other races to forgive one another for all the wrongs of the past and move on. It's the same on a personal level with every single individual. Holding hatred or grudges destroys both the individual and the race or group who keeps them.

[John317]

Remnant, I appreciate very much many of your sentiments expressed in this last post. I would be very interested to know how you became a Christian.

[Twilight]

The true image of Christ changes colors and races. Paint isn't good enough to describe the Lord.

The greatest portrait of Christ, I've seen many times. I must say, the most beautiful one I saw was, in the heart of a Filapino woman. She carried a beautiful image of kindness, thoughtfulness, compassion, loving, and so much more. Her face would glow. It made her look young to her peers. She loved her enemies and friends. I remember seeing her sharing her lunch with a group of people who spoke out against her and behind her back. She had her flaws like everyone else, but it was something about how she carried herself. I would say, she had a heart full of compassion. She was a crier, I thought she cried too much. I never witnessed her do anyone wrong or act with spite towards her enemies. She served her friends hand and foot. She was one of many that I would call the epidemy of what Christ-like means. I called the Bunny. Her name was Benny B.

The next I could think of was a black lady nobody liked. Her tongue was like a sharp edge sword. She took nothing from no one. She wasn't pretty to society's level, but her heart caused her to glow with beauty to those that look. I knew she was not the mean person that people made her out to be. I knew the other people were treating her badly and with disrespect. As we all know there are some people that haven't had good home training. Those people need a little kick in the butt to get them to act right. Well, this lady did just that. She was battle tested, she literally reigned over the people. I laughed a lot watching her chasten the wicked people acting wickedly. Her compassion was like deep waters. Not many people wanted to look at that side of her, but God knows her. She is a true portrait of Christ.

It doesn't matter what race or color you are the Lord will shine through with his image. The world will see this image whether they like the image or not. It is up to us to like the image or hate it. Which do you practice? Love or hate? These two types practiced love and are indicitive of those who wash their robes with the blood of the Lamb in these times of great tribulation.

Indeed remnant.

We should be letting our light shine, I liked your analogy here.

Mark :-)

[Twilight]

Originally Posted By: remnant

...Slavery of the blacks has left a deadly wound on this country's head. Man can forget, but God punishes four generations deep until they wake up and repent.

Would God punish me because some of my ancestors had slaves? I didn't have anything to do with it, and I've always been good toward people of other races even when some of them have done bad things to me. I don't blame a whole race or religion for what some of them do, and I don't think it's right to blame all whites for what some white people have done.

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Does the enslaved blacks claim any rights to the Great tribulation? This country doesn't want to recompense them! Those fathers have damned their own children.

Recompense who and for what? If you're talking about recompensing blacks because of slavery, I don't believe that would be right, either.

I believe slavery was definitely wrong and that the country is paying the price every day for enslaving their their fellow man, but God wants both white and black and all other races to forgive one another for all the wrongs of the past and move on. It's the same on a personal level with every single individual.

I noticed Remnants condition of "repentance" for forgiveness for the nation John317.

I would agree with that, if one has not "repented" of the sins of their Fathers and have instead carried that sin in their hearts, they are guilty.

This was how I understood remnants post. :-)

[phkrause]

I noticed Remnants condition of "repentance" for forgiveness for the nation John317.

I would agree with that, if one has not "repented" of the sins of their Fathers and have instead carried that sin in their hearts, they are guilty.

This was how I understood remnants post. :-)

I don't agree with that analogy at all. I don't believe that that passage is saying that. If the son/daughter harbor the same thing towards anyone its there own sin and not there fathers or mothers.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted By: Twilight

I noticed Remnants condition of "repentance" for forgiveness for the nation John317.

I would agree with that, if one has not "repented" of the sins of their Fathers and have instead carried that sin in their hearts, they are guilty.

This was how I understood remnants post. :-)

I don't agree with that analogy at all. I don't believe that that passage is saying that. If the son/daughter harbor the same thing towards anyone its there own sin and not there fathers or mothers.

Have you ever considered this in light of this subject PK?

Exd 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;

I read this as the sin we commit, if not repented of gets passed down to the next generation.

They inherit this potential to sin.

:-)

[LifeHiscost]

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Does the enslaved blacks claim any rights to the Great tribulation? This country doesn't want to recompense them! Those fathers have damned their own children.

Recompense who and for what? If you're talking about recompensing blacks because of slavery, I don't believe that would be right, either.

I believe slavery was definitely wrong and terribly evil and that the country is paying the price every day for enslaving their fellow man, but God wants both white and black and all other races to forgive one another for all the wrongs of the past and move on. It's the same on a personal level with every single individual. Holding hatred or grudges destroys both the individual and the race or group who keeps them.

Someone I haven't heard from on the forum for a long time, use to decry "the curse of the Law". I wonder how many now would just be grateful if all humanity were cursed with "Thou shalt not murder."

BTW While it seems evident that the Caucasians are guilty of gross injustice at the treatment of those of darker skin, I watched a documentary that revealed it was those of the same race but different tribes, who kidnapped the preponderance of the people who were eventually enslaved in America, and sold them to the slave traders who had the ships that transported them here. The slave trafficking could not have succeeded without that collaboration.

Seems we need not look far to see the blood of Jesus soiling ourselves if we bother looking.

God blesses!

[John317]

My wife and her family are from Mexico. And in Mexico, there's the same problems with racism and prejudice between lighter skinned people and those of darker skinned people as we see sometimes in the US. The Spanish, ligher skinned Mexicans are often prejudiced against Mexicans who are of Indian descent. My wife's father married a Yaqi Indian, and his family never forgave him for it, nor did they ever accept the children of the Indian mother.

On Mexican TV, the lighter skinned people always in power and have money, and the darker skinned Mexicns are the servants and the manual laborers. It is also the way it often is in Mexican society as a whole. It goes back to the days when the Spanish came over from Spain.

Racism and prejudice is a human problem, not merely American. These kinds of problems occur in just about every culture and society where there's a difference in the color of the skin. It even occurs among blacks who are lighter than their darker relatives & neighbors.