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And he called the US perverted!!

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thats one of the reasons why he hated us so much to have thousands of americans killed cause our ladies didnt wear curtains from head to toe

and there he is fantasizing to the pont of climax women wearing nothing having pillow fights

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the discovery of pornography is not uncommon in such cases.

Which is not surprising since almost all false religions have no defense against eating of the forbidden fruit.

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Very well put, LC !

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Lots of people in that compound, no real evidence that it belonged to Osama himself.

And I'm pretty sure Islam actually has quite strict rules about sexual purity.

Not defending Osama, Islam or porn.

Defending truth-telling.

Truth is important

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Lots of people in that compound, no real evidence that it belonged to Osama himself.

And I'm pretty sure Islam actually has quite strict rules about sexual purity.

Not defending Osama, Islam or porn.

Defending truth-telling.

It is good to know the truth!

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Currently in North America, more babies die from abortion in 2 days than the total number of people who died during centuries of Inquisitions" http://www.davidmacd.com/catholic/inquisition.htm

XXX viewing. Parental guidance advised.

The human society, in general, needs a general overhaul.

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I've also see where some of the 9/11 Muslim hijackers living in San Diego patronized strip clubs there. Yet they claimed to be angry at America for having such places.

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...and usage of porn is highest in the US states with the highest concentrations of evangelical Christians.

Again, not having a go at Christians or defending porn. These are just very, very shallow levels of thought and attack.

Truth is important

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...and usage of porn is highest in the US states with the highest concentrations of evangelical Christians.

Again, not having a go at Christians or defending porn. These are just very, very shallow levels of thought and attack.

Maybe as shallow as the same type of remarks concerning evangelical christians.

This article didn't have anything to do with evangelicals.

Maybe if the story were to read well known evangelical christian found with porn in his home,the comparison with Osama should be given, whether or not Osama had anything to do with the story.

At least I don't think the evangelical christian viewing porn has killed thousands while using that as part of the reason.

Don't recall them sawing off the heads of those they consider infidels

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Porn has become very accepted in the US society. Many evangelical faiths teach "once-saved-always-saved" and place more emphasis on grace than the law. Many evangelicals use porn to "enhance" their sex lives and do not see a problem with it. And, many admit that if there is a problem, Jesus will forgive them anyway. Thus, many evangelical preachers that preach against porn do so knowing that their target audience is sitting in the pews.

Porn being found in Osama's quarters is more comparable to porn being found in Franklin Grahams' or James Dobson's home. These are spiritual giants that have millions of followers.

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Porn has become very accepted in the US society. Many evangelical faiths teach "once-saved-always-saved" and place more emphasis on grace than the law. Many evangelicals use porn to "enhance" their sex lives and do not see a problem with it. And, many admit that if there is a problem, Jesus will forgive them anyway. Thus, many evangelical preachers that preach against porn do so knowing that their target audience is sitting in the pews.

Porn being found in Osama's quarters is more comparable to porn being found in Franklin Grahams' or James Dobson's home. These are spiritual giants that have millions of followers.

I am well aware of what many evangelicals teach.That has what to do with evangelicals concerning the topic of Obama and porn? Or those that killed so many americans in part because of that reason?

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My point is that in-the-pews' evangelicals watching porn really isn't all that hypocritical given the wide-spread acceptance of porn in the US and the easy-grace message of many evangelical churches.

However it is very hypocritical of Osama given his belief that the US is the great Satan.

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My point is that in-the-pews' evangelicals watching porn really isn't all that hypocritical given the wide-spread acceptance of porn in the US and the easy-grace message of many evangelical churches.

However it is very hypocritical of Osama given his belief that the US is the great Satan.

Being a hypocrite was probably the least of Osama's fault.

My point was I would like to see evangelical christians or conservative christians given the same amount of respect and benefit of the doubt as a mass murderer receives.

It is unlikely that a man like Osama was not aware of what was going on in that compound.He did not escaper capture for so long by being oblivious.

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Do you think had this story been reversed the comments that followed would have been the same? I don't

...and usage of porn is common among Osama followers with the highest concentrations of muslims

Again, not having a go at Muslims or defending porn. These are just very, very shallow levels of thought and attack

Don't think we would have read this,more like a agreement as to what hypocrites evangelical christians are

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The reason why Google was shut out of China was because Google refused to block porn, and that violated Chinese Culture.... or words similar to that.

How weird does that seem?

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bwink

And your are adding to the Backfire effect! Stop it!!

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I don't even want to go into it, but very briefly.

If we knew that Osama bin Laden himself was using pornography, then yes, that would be hypocritical on his part. But we don't. That's the simple point I was making.

I would also make the point that pornography is a looooong way down the list of reasons Osama hated America, so to talk as though it was the top reason is to somewhat miss the point.

I'm not attacking anyone for... well, anything, really.

I just think it's very lazy 'thinking' to claim that anyone is a hypocrite based on something *you have no evidence they even did*!

Truth is important

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I don't even want to go into it, but very briefly.

If we knew that Osama bin Laden himself was using pornography, then yes, that would be hypocritical on his part. But we don't. That's the simple point I was making.

I would also make the point that pornography is a looooong way down the list of reasons Osama hated America, so to talk as though it was the top reason is to somewhat miss the point.

I'm not attacking anyone for... well, anything, really.

I just think it's very lazy 'thinking' to claim that anyone is a hypocrite based on something *you have no evidence they even did*!

It is highly unlikely that Osama was oblivious to what went on within that compound. Porn was one of the excuses, it doesn't matter where on the list it was.

Being thought of a hypocrite might rank way down the list of importance to a mass murderer.

It was a good opportunity to take a shot at evangelicals,which have nothing to do with the topic not were mentioned in the article

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...and usage of porn is highest in the US states with the highest concentrations of evangelical Christians.
I am not sure how you would prove this.

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

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Fairly simple statistical analysis. Compare purchases of pornography in areas with high population density of evangelicals with areas where it is low. Also tracking visits to porn sites from computers located in the Bible Belt with other areas of the country. One can also note the number and success of live porn, i.e., strip joints and so-called "gentlemen's clubs", in the Bible Belt as compared with other areas of the country.

"Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good."

"Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal."

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*Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth.

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Fairly simple statistical analysis. Compare purchases of pornography in areas with high population density of evangelicals with areas where it is low. Also tracking visits to porn sites from computers located in the Bible Belt with other areas of the country. One can also note the number and success of live porn, i.e., strip joints and so-called "gentlemen's clubs", in the Bible Belt as compared with other areas of the country.
In other words you have no proof of this claim; or else you would have provided it?

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

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I have seen that information before as well.

The sale of porn TV goes up at Christian Conventions Hotels. That has been a discussion in Christian Bookseller Magazines that I used to get when I was a ABC manager.

The reason why google was banned in China, google talked about freedom, was because the Chinese do not allow porn, it is not legal. It is viewed as something Christian Countries support.

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Thats not sayin much for "Christian" countries...but my challenge to Tom is not because I find it hard to believe; just wonderin where the idea is coming from. Hmmm; now I am wondering what makes a country "Christian?" And who decides?

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

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Thats not sayin much for "Christian" countries...but my challenge to Tom is not because I find it hard to believe; just wonderin where the idea is coming from. Hmmm; now I am wondering what makes a country "Christian?" And who decides?

One thing you can say for the evangelicals besides the claim they hate Christ as one topic discussed at length here.

They are not blowing thousands of americans to pieces while claiming the use of porn as part of their reason for doing so.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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