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My question was not limited to politics... Care to try again?

Personally the impression he gives me and based on his own actions NO!!! there is nothing I would want my sons to imitate.

He is not a man that would ever be allowed to influence my children at a vulnerable age.His associations alone is something I would not want around.

Would I want him as a employee,NO!!!!!

Would I want him as a employer,NO!!!!!

Would my children ever attend church with this man?Not on your life.

Would it bother me to have him as a neighbor?Depends.In the event of visitors like Bill Ayers,absolutely not.

Do I know or am I guessing on the state of his heart?NO.

Would I use the same venom and certainty towards him on that level as has been used towards Beck.NO!!!

Not my business.What is my business is the mess this man has made of many area's of this country.

Let me know if there is something I missed

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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Well he took on the credit card companies. That was great!!! No doubt, he is the man!

Yup,he sure is. Irresponsible people that abuse credit and don't pay will hardly be impressed with a contract they don't feel the need to read. Granted it has given the deadbeats a little more leeway in making those that work and pay their bills pick up the slack.Poor dears can't help themselves.

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He managed to put the brakes on doctors' hospitals too. That is a victory for all (except those greedy doctors) [Not all doctors - just the greedy ones that were in on the doctors' hospital shams] That was great too. Once gain showing that he is the man.

What a joke. Almost as funny as Obamacare. Quite strange that Reid and Pelosi needed waivers for their states to protect them from his great money saving scheme

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He killed Osama Bin Laden. That took guts and courage. Obama is no coward.

Actually he took much credit. Neither he nor any in the WhiteHouse seemed to have the slightest idea of what took place.How many different stories,all different.

What is gutsy about using the means and benefit of that which you huff and puff about and condemn ,insisting that big bad Obama is going to stop that.Had to close Gitmo etc.Anything to make Bush look bad until he could use Bush to make Obama look good.Even the special ops had to finally tell the Keystone cops in the Whitehouse to shutup as they were talking way to much.When the so-called hero spews me and I continually to sing his own praises,courage is not what most think of

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Now he is setting Israel in their place. That is very gutsy but I think something that is long overdue. He could lose re-election because of that but once again,,, he is showing us that... he is the man.

He is showing he knew very little of what he was talking about.Mr Netanyahu did a wonderful job of making him look totally foolish,he didn't even need a telepromter to sound like the statesman he is

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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...Let me know if there is something I missed

Yeah, you missed the point of the question...

"Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good."

"Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal."

"I love God only as much as the person I love the least."

*Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth.

(And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)

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He killed Osama Bin Laden.

Actually he took much credit. Neither he nor any in the WhiteHouse seemed to have the slightest idea of what took place.

He gave the order when they were not even sure Osama was there. That order meant invading a "friendly" country. That took guts. He's the man. And he watched everything go down on helmet cams the seals were wearing. He knew exactly what happened. He watched it live.

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As far as Israel I disagree with putting them in there place. Israel has put up with enough from there neighbors.

The history there is very ugly. Neither side has clean hands. I would not expect for Israel to turn over the West Bank to create an independent Palestinian state but the land should be given to the Palestinians much like in the US we have Indian reservations. Jewish people should not be allowed to move into it and build settlements. That is a big problem.

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He gave the order when they were not even sure Osama was there. That order meant invading a "friendly" country. That took guts. He's the man. And he watched everything go down on helmet cams the seals were wearing. He knew exactly what happened. He watched it live.

If he knew why the various stories for days following?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...n-compound.html

I guess they were just watching Scooby Doo after all. Interesting I can't find this on any american media venues.

Osama bin Laden dead: Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound

The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.

By Steven Swinford 10:25PM BST 04 May 2011

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, revealed there was a 25 minute blackout during which the live feed from cameras mounted on the helmets of the US special forces was cut off.

A photograph released by the White House appeared to show the President and his aides in the situation room watching the action as it unfolded. In fact they had little knowledge of what was happening in the compound.

In an interview with PBS, Mr Panetta said: "Once those teams went into the compound I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn't know just exactly what was going on. And there were some very tense moments as we were waiting for information.

"We had some observation of the approach there, but we did not have direct flow of information as to the actual conduct of the operation itself as they were going through the compound."

Mr Panetta also told the network that the US Navy Seals made the final decision to kill bin Laden rather than the president.

He said: "The authority here was to kill bin Laden. And obviously, under the rules of engagement, if he had in fact thrown up his hands, surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat, then they were to capture him. But they had full authority to kill him.

"To be frank, I don't think he had a lot of time to say anything. It was a firefight going up that compound. And by the time they got to the third floor and found bin Laden, I think it - this was all split-second action on the part of the Seals."

The President only knew the mission was successful after the Navy Seals commander heard the word “Geronimo” on the radio, a code word from commandos reporting that they had killed bin Laden.

The absence of footage of the raid has led to conflicting reports about what happened in the compound. According to Pakistani authorities one of bin Laden’s daughter’s, who was present during the raid, claimed that her father was captured alive before he was killed.

There was also growing doubt about the US claims that Pakistan’s intelligence agencies involved in the raid.

Lieutenant General Asad Durrani, former head of the ISI, Pakistan's intelligence service, said it was "inconceivable" that his government was unaware of the US raid on Osama bin Laden's compound.

He claimed his country was forced to deny any knowledge of the raid to avoid a domestic backlash. The ISI's official line has been that bin Laden's compound had "slipped off our radar" after it raided the building in 2003 while hunting for another senior al-Qaeda operative.The agency claims it was unaware that bin Laden was hiding there.

Lieutenant General Durrani, however, said that the denial was a "political" maneuver by the intelligence services to avoid claims that they were working too closely with the US.

He said: "It is more likely that they did know [about the raid]. It is not conceivable that it was done without the involvement of Pakistani security forces at some stage. They were involved and they were told they were in position.

"The army chief was in his office, the cordons had been thrown around that particular place. The Pakistani helicopters were also in the air so that indicates that it was involved.

"[There are] political implications back home. If you say that you are involved there is a large, vocal faction of Pakistani society that will get very upset because we are carrying out repeatedly these operations with the Americans."

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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The reports on the live feed have been conflicting but it isn't a big issue because even if the live feed wasn't continuous for the entire operation, the video would have been available for them to view soon after. The point is that President Obama did see the entire operation unfold, step by step, regardless if he saw all of it live or a few hours later.

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The reports on the live feed have been conflicting but it isn't a big issue because even if the live feed wasn't continuous for the entire operation, the video would have been available for them to view soon after. The point is that President Obama did see the entire operation unfold, step by step, regardless if he saw all of it live or a few hours later.

Then we should have had one consistant story. Factual ,to the point.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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Then we should have had one consistant story. Factual ,to the point.

Exactly. Not to mention outright contradictions. I think Shane misses that point.

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We don't have one consistent because they wouldn't release all the details and couldn't figure out what they wanted to make public. That's politics.

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We don't have one consistent because they wouldn't release all the details and couldn't figure out what they wanted to make public. That's politics.

No.

He was shot because he resisted,he didn't resist,was shot in the back of the head,he wasn't shot in the back of the head,he used his wife as a shield,he didn't use his wife as a shield is not trying to figure out what to make public.

Obama also made the same claim as you referred to,that he watched it in real time.Nope

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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The Prez is on top of it. I have no doubt about that. He is the man. He know the details. What the White House releases to the media and what the media gets messed up is no reflection on what the President actaully knows. Don't worry. Sleep well at night. The Prez is in control.

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The Prez is on top of it. I have no doubt about that. He is the man. He know the details. What the White House releases to the media and what the media gets messed up is no reflection on what the President actaully knows. Don't worry. Sleep well at night. The Prez is in control.

Your assurances as usual are not something that gives me any comfort.

"The man" a real leader has command of the situation,knows what has taken place."The man" is responsible for what his staff releases.More to the point "The man"" is responsible for what he himself says

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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Originally Posted By: Shane
The Prez is on top of it. I have no doubt about that. He is the man. He know the details. What the White House releases to the media and what the media gets messed up is no reflection on what the President actaully knows. Don't worry. Sleep well at night. The Prez is in control.

Your assurances as usual are not something that gives me any comfort.

"The man" a real leader has command of the situation,knows what has taken place."The man" is responsible for what his staff releases.More to the point "The man"" is responsible for what he himself says

Exactly!!!

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Yeah, he's on top of it Shane. You just keep believing that..... most transparent prez ever, too, right?

I may have some beach property for sale real cheap, if you're interested. Let me know.

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Who wants transparency? That is what Bush haters always talked about. If the presidency was transparent our enemies would know everything. Nope. The Bamster is the man.

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Yeah, he's on top of it Shane. You just keep believing that..... most transparent prez ever, too, right?

I may have some beach property for sale real cheap, if you're interested. Let me know.

reyes

Richard,

You have to keep in mind there still are those that view Obama much like a love sick 16 year old mooning about the football captain.

It really matters little what Obama does,he is not responsible.

Watching the raid on Obama,either in real time or after the fact,the events should not have been open to dozens of different stories.

I believe Osama is dead but Obama's so called concern not to inflame the followers of Islam is pathetic.What does he think the different eye witnesses to this have had to say does.

His frequent references and self glorifying to it is nothing but a peacock strut,as he does in so many things. This was accomplished with procedures put in place long before he became the so-called man,and strongly condemned,yet continued..Procedures that his DOJ his trying hard to bring to trial those same.

Gitmo is still open and not likely to close soon.Wonder why as "the man" was so incensed over it.Seems "the man" still wants the Patriot Act.Why?"the Man" thought this was terrible

Why is "the man" still using most if not all that he so piously condemned?

How much of what he intensly condmens has helped him now to strut his stuff?

His white house,himself included were not bright enough to know when to shut their mouths.They had to be told by the special ops,SHUTUP ALREADY with your strutting,you are endangering our families

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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His white house,himself included were not bright enough to know when to shut their mouths.They had to be told by the special ops,SHUTUP ALREADY with your strutting,you are endangering our families

I know, and all the while telling us that we can't see the pictures because he doesn't want to spike the ball. LOL

He's done nothing BUT spike the ball!

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