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Oh, the irony... Don't you realize that if you are guaranteeing a quality of life for those who don't try, and those to do try and fail, that you are guaranteeing everyone for there is no one left other than those who do succeed? This incentivizes those who are lazy to do nothing for they are guaranteed their needs. It's pure lunacy to encourage lazy people to not work.

"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde

�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus

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Thats quite true; but it looks like joeb was just speaking for himself and giving his own experience as an example.

He didn't say every non christian was like that...

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

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Oh, the irony... Don't you realize that if you are guaranteeing a quality of life for those who don't try, and those to do try and fail, that you are guaranteeing everyone for there is no one left other than those who do succeed? This incentivizes those who are lazy to do nothing for they are guaranteed their needs. It's pure lunacy to encourage lazy people to not work.

There's a far stretch from helping people who don't have work, and encouraging people to not work.

It's like saying that helping people to exercise would only encourage them to eat more. Or that saving people from drowning would only encourage them not to learn how to swim on their own.

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It's silly. There are people who genuinely can't get work, because they are ugly, uneducated, sick, and etc... and this system leaves them out on the streets. I don't think that helping those people would constitute discouraging them from being better.

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It's silly. There are people who genuinely can't get work, because they are ugly, uneducated, sick, and etc... and this system leaves them out on the streets. I don't think that helping those people would constitute discouraging them from being better.

You are so right here. I worked with those homeless in the alleys and the overpasses of a large Canadian city for two years. They would all back you on this statement.

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

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Oh, the irony... Don't you realize that if you are guaranteeing a quality of life for those who don't try, and those to do try and fail, that you are guaranteeing everyone for there is no one left other than those who do succeed? This incentivizes those who are lazy to do nothing for they are guaranteed their needs. It's pure lunacy to encourage lazy people to not work.

Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.

 

George Bernard Shaw

 

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I've worked in hospitals... that is when I rail against what you say, Joeb. It's stupid, it's judgemental, and it's truely anti-Christian. It's with holding help when help is available. It's a refusial to help those who desire help and it's making judgements about people that we have no business making....

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Joeb was not saying what you say he did. I wonder who is really being so judgmental here? All joeb said was that it is "lunacy" to encourage lazy people to NOT work; and you are so judgmental that you call him antichristian, stupid, etc, just for that?? Wow. You and another poster here seem quite bent on smearing joeb's character, just because you can't stop twisting what he says...You need to get a grip on reality and remember it is the mark of the beast to lie and slander like this.

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"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

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Originally Posted By: Igakusei
/yawn

Great reply. I knew you had it in you.... bwink

Igaksuei,

I've been thinking about what I said/did right here and I was wrong to do this. I was out of line and not representing my Savior well at all. I'm sorry, and hope you will accept my apologies.

Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.
Alexis de Tocqueville
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quote=joeb]quote=Igakusei]/yawn /quote]

Great reply. I knew you had it in you.... bwink /quote]

Igaksuei,

I've been thinking about what I said/did right here and I was wrong to do this. I was out of line and not representing my Savior well at all. I'm sorry, and hope you will accept my apologies.

Ya; you have a good point...maybe I shouldn't have "liked" your comment as much as i did. I apologize too Igaksuei...

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

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This thread is like an out of control car. First one side of the road in the ditch, then wildly crossing the road to the other ditch.

...narrowly missing the chicken who has no idea why he is even crossing the road.

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That happens every time someone hijacks a topic to spout off about their pet partisan propaganda...

Thanks joeb...

"Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good."

"Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal."

"I love God only as much as the person I love the least."

*Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth.

(And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)

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That happens every time someone hijacks a topic to spout off about their pet partisan propaganda...

Thanks joeb...

"Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good."

"Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal."

"I love God only as much as the person I love the least."

*Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth.

(And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)

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That happens every time someone hijacks a topic to spout off about their pet partisan propaganda...

Thanks joeb...

Well you are no different in this topic

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

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This thread is like an out of control car. First one side of the road in the ditch, then wildly crossing the road to the other ditch.

...narrowly missing the chicken who has no idea why he is even crossing the road.

Am in total agreement!!

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LOL, STOP PICKING ON THE CHICKEN PEOPLE

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

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LOL, STOP PICKING ON THE CHICKEN PEOPLE
Seriously! Birds have feelings too, you know.

"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde

�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus

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Good to "see" you on the forum again SivartM!

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

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