Could the United States government became a Fascist regime?

[miz3]

I can agree that it has strong socialist leanings, but the left has not always been Marxist-Leninist.

If you can't spell it, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised if you don't understand it.

There are some on the Left who are Marxist-Leninist, but they are a minority, and they wouldn't be in the Democratic Party. Marxist-Leninists hate the Democratic Party even more than they hate the Republican party, and merely use it for their own ends.

1. Attacking my spelling is an indication that you have no truthful argument. Besides everyone on this forum misspells. I was never very good in school at spelling but I do know the Truth. Being good in spelling is also NOT AN INDICATOR OF KNOWING TRUTH.

2. No, John317 marxist-leninist (no caps on purpose) are the vast majority of the Democratic Party. These marxist-leninist ones love the Democrat Party it is their home.

I am sorry that you are soooo confused about theology as well as politics.

[John317]

Originally Posted By: John317

Loma Linda is largely SDA and has always been Republican.

I doubt you can document this. If you can then I insist that you must. Can you prove it?

Quote:

In the state legislature Loma Linda is located in the 31st Senate District, represented by Republican Robert Dutton, and in the 63rd Assembly District, represented by Republican Bill Emmerson. Federally, Loma Linda is located in California's 41st congressional district, which has a Cook PVI of R +9[6] and is represented by Republican Jerry Lewis.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loma_Linda,_California

I moved there when I was 10 and have lived either there or nearby most of my life. It's a great town.

[miz3]

Originally Posted By: miz3

.... And the SDA Church has aligned itself albeit unofficially with this godless left and the Democratic Party because of their "sunday law fear" of the evangelicals. One example is to look at the Religious Liberty arm of the SDA Church.

Loma Linda is largely SDA and has always been Republican.

Originally Posted By: miz3

The political left of America has always been marxist-lenist at its very soul.

I can agree that it has strong socialist leanings, but the left has not always been Marxist-Leninist.

If you can't spell it, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised if you don't understand it.

There are some on the Left who are Marxist-Leninist, but they are a minority, and they wouldn't be in the Democratic Party. Marxist-Leninists hate the Democratic Party even more than they hate the Republican party, and merely use it for their own ends.

Originally Posted By: miz3

.... Every marxist-lenist entity that ever had power oppressed the Christian including SDA. Just ask the SDA in Russia, China, Vietnam, etc.

Of course, but that is different from saying the Democratic Party is Marxist-Leninist. I believe President Obama is socialist and that he was heavily influenced by Marxism, but he is definitely not a Leninist.

You need to study up on Marxism-Leninism if you think Obama is a Marxist-Leninist or if you think the Democratic Party is. Marxism-Leninism is the belief that Marxism/socialism must be spread throughout the world by violent revolution.

Almost, but no cigar.

They believe in violent revolution if possible but when not possible they will do it by any means necessary.

Apparently you have not heard President Obama and his words about civil disobedience (forms of violence). The 1960's crowd believed most definitely in violence and so do President Obama and his friend Bill Ayers (of Ayers and Dorn fame). Most of this crowd are now on "wall street" and trying to gin up support in the rest of the country.

What they cannot get by "use of the government means" they will indeed attempt to get in the streets of violence. Either way it is violence against the Freedom and the Bible Protestant Christian Principles that founded this great land.

[miz3]

Originally Posted By: John317

Loma Linda is largely SDA and has always been Republican.

I doubt you can document this. If you can then I insist that you must. Can you prove it?

[Alchemy]

Originally Posted By: miz3

I doubt you can document this. If you can then I insist that you must. Can you prove it?

Quote:

In the state legislature Loma Linda is located in the 31st Senate District' date=' represented by Republican Robert Dutton, and in the 63rd Assembly District, represented by Republican Bill Emmerson. Federally, Loma Linda is located in California's 41st congressional district, which has a Cook PVI of R +9[6'] and is represented by Republican Jerry Lewis.

Originally Posted By: John317

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loma_Linda,_California

I moved there when I was 10 and have lived either there or nearby most of my life. It's a great town.

Ok John317 your point is well taken but that does not let the rest of SDA in America off the hook.

SDA's have never been afraid of the Republican's Sunday Laws. We are very uncomfortable with having such strong political ties to any one political party.

Many SDA's consider themselves conservative and normally vote Republican, even with their Sunday Law desires.

I don't trust our political system at all anymore, I see Republicans and Democrats as using different means to the same end. But, that is just me.

[Neil D]

Are you trying to po-po peoples favorite fantasies? Good luck!!

What?!?!!? ME, do such a thing as that??? Oh, NO!

No, no, no, no, no.....I would NEVER DO that sort of thing.....

[Kevin H]

While I have not understood Facism, I remember Ronald Reagan saying that there was a lot of talking about the campain in terms of the right and the left, and to rember the true left was Marxis Communinism, and that the true right is Facism and Nazism, and that the was saying that while one party leaned more left and the other leaned more right that they were both in a middle area and not to be compaired to either Facism nor Comuninism.

The issue is globleism and the forming global economy which is transending any political system. For a long, long time there has not been true Republican nor Democrats, but one political party, the globalists. I had friends who complained when Bush was running against Kerry "We don't have any choice, it's either Bush, or Bush Light" While I tend to have liberal leanings and usually vote democratic (not always) I have to at least give Ron Paul credit for supporting the United States and the constitution rather than globalism. While I don't know about all the candadates from what I understand, Romni would be business as usual, Perry and Bachman would destroy what is left of the shattered constitution. Perry appares to be the results of the wide imagination of someone who read "Liberty" and "The Great Controversy" one too many times to be healthy, yet he is not the figmant of the editor of Liberty magizine's imagination running wild but a real person.

[phkrause]

Interesting thoughts Kevin, I tend to agree.

[miz3]

While I have not understood Facism, I remember Ronald Reagan saying that there was a lot of talking about the campain in terms of the right and the left, and to rember the true left was Marxis Communinism, and that the true right is Facism and Nazism, and that the was saying that while one party leaned more left and the other leaned more right that they were both in a middle area and not to be compaired to either Facism nor Comuninism.

The issue is globleism and the forming global economy which is transending any political system. For a long, long time there has not been true Republican nor Democrats, but one political party, the globalists. I had friends who complained when Bush was running against Kerry "We don't have any choice, it's either Bush, or Bush Light" While I tend to have liberal leanings and usually vote democratic (not always) I have to at least give Ron Paul credit for supporting the United States and the constitution rather than globalism. While I don't know about all the candadates from what I understand, Romni would be business as usual, Perry and Bachman would destroy what is left of the shattered constitution. Perry appares to be the results of the wide imagination of someone who read "Liberty" and "The Great Controversy" one too many times to be healthy, yet he is not the figmant of the editor of Liberty magizine's imagination running wild but a real person.

Is the fantasy of someone who has had a "public" education or the fantasy of someone who has had a "SDA" education.

It is hard to tell but fantasy is sure the correct word.

[ClubV12]

Why is you EVERY post, miz3, some kind of attack on Adventists? You must be one very miserable and unhappy guy to devote your life to such a negative pursuit.

[miz3]

Why is you EVERY post, miz3, some kind of attack on Adventists? You must be one very miserable and unhappy guy to devote your life to such a negative pursuit.

Good question ClubV12.

I am not anti SDA. I am anti-unBiblical.

I believe SDA are woefully ignorant of the Bible and have been so saturated with outside of the Bible resources so that they do not understand God at all.

Most SDA (and humans generally) "create their own picture" of what God is like and this picture is nothing like the True God of the Bible.

The "human created picture god" is NOTHING BUT AN IDOL.

This idolatry affects everything about the human and takes them away from the Truth.

I happen to have a soft spot for SDA and this is why I push so hard to bring SDA back to the Bible and what it Truthfully states about God and His Kingdom. I just happen to think they (SDA) should know better.

I find very few SDA who are like the Bereans (sp?).

I really appreciate your question and I am delighted to answer it.

[Kevin H]

Originally Posted By: Kevin H

While I have not understood Facism, I remember Ronald Reagan saying that there was a lot of talking about the campain in terms of the right and the left, and to rember the true left was Marxis Communinism, and that the true right is Facism and Nazism, and that the was saying that while one party leaned more left and the other leaned more right that they were both in a middle area and not to be compaired to either Facism nor Comuninism.

The issue is globleism and the forming global economy which is transending any political system. For a long, long time there has not been true Republican nor Democrats, but one political party, the globalists. I had friends who complained when Bush was running against Kerry "We don't have any choice, it's either Bush, or Bush Light" While I tend to have liberal leanings and usually vote democratic (not always) I have to at least give Ron Paul credit for supporting the United States and the constitution rather than globalism. While I don't know about all the candadates from what I understand, Romni would be business as usual, Perry and Bachman would destroy what is left of the shattered constitution. Perry appares to be the results of the wide imagination of someone who read "Liberty" and "The Great Controversy" one too many times to be healthy, yet he is not the figmant of the editor of Liberty magizine's imagination running wild but a real person.

Is the fantasy of someone who has had a "public" education or the fantasy of someone who has had a "SDA" education.

It is hard to tell but fantasy is sure the correct word.

I meant to say "Wild imagination" not "Wide imagination, and yes I was picturing the fantasy of some Adventist getto Academy Student writing a paper on how how they would imagine the last days. But sadly I'm not seeing Pery as the figment of an Adventist's fantisy about how the last days will be, but a real live living breathing person who is reported on in the press and is in political office and a contender for the Pressidency. The fact that this person is real is enough to give give the biggest critics of Adventism a pause.

[miz3]

Originally Posted By: Kevin H

While I have not understood Facism, I remember Ronald Reagan saying that there was a lot of talking about the campain in terms of the right and the left, and to rember the true left was Marxis Communinism, and that the true right is Facism and Nazism, and that the was saying that while one party leaned more left and the other leaned more right that they were both in a middle area and not to be compaired to either Facism nor Comuninism.

The issue is globleism and the forming global economy which is transending any political system. For a long, long time there has not been true Republican nor Democrats, but one political party, the globalists. I had friends who complained when Bush was running against Kerry "We don't have any choice, it's either Bush, or Bush Light" While I tend to have liberal leanings and usually vote democratic (not always) I have to at least give Ron Paul credit for supporting the United States and the constitution rather than globalism. While I don't know about all the candadates from what I understand, Romni would be business as usual, Perry and Bachman would destroy what is left of the shattered constitution. Perry appares to be the results of the wide imagination of someone who read "Liberty" and "The Great Controversy" one too many times to be healthy, yet he is not the figmant of the editor of Liberty magizine's imagination running wild but a real person.

Originally Posted By: miz3

Is the fantasy of someone who has had a "public" education or the fantasy of someone who has had a "SDA" education.

It is hard to tell but fantasy is sure the correct word.

I meant to say "Wild imagination" not "Wide imagination, and yes I was picturing the fantasy of some Adventist getto Academy Student writing a paper on how how they would imagine the last days. But sadly I'm not seeing Pery as the figment of an Adventist's fantisy about how the last days will be, but a real live living breathing person who is reported on in the press and is in political office and a contender for the Pressidency. The fact that this person is real is enough to give give the biggest critics of Adventism a pause.

Your entitled to your adolescent fantasies. However, that is far from the Truth. I deal only in Truth.

[ClubV12]

miz3 says,

"I believe SDA are woefully ignorant of the Bible and have been so saturated with outside of the Bible resources so that they do not understand God at all."

Just take out the word "SDA" and insert what ever racial profile group you want and you have the essentials of a "hate mongering racist" remark by miz3.

[Kevin H]

ClubV12, don't forget, Miz3 is not only dismissive of Adventist thought, archaeologists, historians, scholars of Greek, Hebrew, Aramic and other Biblical scholars are also his targets.