Guest Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Star Parker Rick Santorum must be “racist” because he thinks all people, regardless of ethnicity, should have the dignity of self sufficiency. At least that’s how the NAACP sees it. Talking about pushing back against those in government endlessly trying to expand welfare programs because they make money off them, Santorum said, “I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money.” NAACP president Benjamin Todd Jealous called this “…outrageous...race-based stereotypes about public assistance.” Santorum was talking about Medicaid. The more states expand their Medicaid programs, the more federal funds they get. So they have a perverse incentive to keep growing these programs. It is unfortunately analogous to drug pushers who get richer with each new addict. If indeed Santorum did single out blacks, it’s not unreasonable because they are disproportionately on Medicaid. Blacks comprise 12 percent of the population but they constitute 30 percent of those on Medicaid. Medicaid is government monopolized socialized medicine for the nation’s poor. Not surprisingly, its spending is out of control while delivering increasingly shoddy care. The program cost taxpayers $118 billion in 2000. By 2010 it was almost $300 billion and is projected to reach almost $500 billion by 2020. Forty percent of physicians won’t see Medicaid patients because the reimbursements they get don’t cover their costs. According to studies reported in the Wall Street Journal, the chances of a Medicaid patient dying in the hospital are double that of patients on private insurance and Medicaid patients are 59 percent more likely to have complications after heart surgery than privately insured patients. Now it’s about to get worse. Despite over 60 million Americans now on this program that is bankrupting states and delivering substandard health care, Obamacare expands it to add another 16 million. Given the disproportionate exposure of black Americans to this horrific program, wouldn’t anyone who cares about these folks want to seek better options for them? Not the NAACP. The NAACP wants to keep Medicaid as it is and opposes efforts to reform it to improve its efficiency. One idea floated to fix the built in state incentives to keep spending more is to switch to federal block grants to states. NAACP calls this “extremist.” Besides fighting reforms to improve dysfunctional poverty and entitlement programs, NAACP fights efforts to address the core problems that perpetuate the cycle of poverty in black America. For instance, education. More and more blacks are getting the message that inner city public schools are beyond repair and that the only hope for black children is competition. Give parents choice with vouchers, tax credits, or combinations thereof, to go to other schools. But the NAACP can always be depended on to initiate or join law suits fighting charter schools and vouchers, as they did in New York City earlier this year. Despite the crisis of breakdown of the traditional black family, NAACP promotes same sex marriage as a civil rights issue. Despite half of black pregnancies ending in abortion, NAACP opposes anti-abortion activism of black pro-life groups. Any well meaning white conservative like Rick Santorum, honest enough to state the truth about the destructiveness of welfare state programs on black Americans, can look forward to a press release from the NAACP calling him or her “racist” or the equivalent. They then have to spend weeks doing media to apologize and carry the stigma forever. There is no reason to apologize for telling the truth. Failing to do only so, or apologizing, just hurts blacks and the whole nation and leaves the sharp weapon of racial intimidation always ready for use in the hands of the plantation masters. http://townhall.com/columnists/starparke...gain/page/full/ Quote
Moderators Bravus Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Posted January 10, 2012 The stats on race and poverty have been quoted here in the past couple of days. Black people are disproportionately on Medicaid, and have worse outcomes, because black people are disproportionately poor. The issue is poverty, not race. But you don't address poverty by further beating on the poor. Quote Truth is important
Moderators Bravus Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Posted January 10, 2012 Also, pot, meet kettle: an article complaining about 'playing the race card' that uses the words 'plantation masters' in its title. Quote Truth is important
bonnie Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Also, pot, meet kettle: an article complaining about 'playing the race card' that uses the words 'plantation masters' in its title. Hasn't "Plantation Masters" and similar phrasing been coined by blacks to make derogatory remarks against other blacks that were to conservative. Do they own the phrase and it is not playing the race card.Haven't really noticed your response but have seen "quotes" here reposting those comments made by some black individuals.Have you spoken out? Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators Bravus Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Posted January 10, 2012 ...and which is it? Did Santorum say 'black people' or 'blah people' or have an 'audible pause'... good to at least get the story straight. Since Santorum now claims he didn't *say* 'black people', Star Parker's article has no foundation. Quote Truth is important
Moderators Bravus Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Posted January 10, 2012 Oh, I'm not claiming wisdom, just logic. Quote Truth is important
bonnie Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Blah blah blah, does not wisdom make. Assume the worst and he said "black people" Had he said white people would there be this push back? It has gotten to the point if you refer to anyone of another race it has to be in "hushed,reverential tones".If not,proof positive you are racist. Blacks use food stamps as any other race.A white person using the same term as the title of this topic or one of those conservative blacks made popular by blacks is a very serious matter. The fact remains there are all skin colors on welfare and food stamps.All skin colors lie,cheat and commit fraud to take from taxpayers. Many seem to believe it is a very limited number.It is a very high number,but if you are white and question the need for many to be taking taxpayer money,you are far less than they are. In MN,the tip of the iceberg 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Investigation Prompts Changes to MN Welfare Laws An on-going 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS investigation into Welfare Waste, led by reporter Mark Albert, examines how taxpayer money is being spent on public assistance programs. Beginning in November 2010, our stories found a benefits bonanza that might leave you shaking your head: cigarettes, alcohol, lottery tickets - even tattoos - can be bought with your money. We found welfare cash can be used for all sorts of things never intended, from the Twin Cities to the U-S Virgin Islands. And it's all legal. After our reports, lawmakers demanded action and the state began to reform the system. In February 2011, we showed how welfare cash - taxpayer money - could be withdrawn at ATMs inside some casinos and bingo halls and then gambled away. In May 2011, our investigation found millions of dollars are being spent on childcare that doesn't exist, and for families and providers that don't qualify. At the same time, thousands of families are placed on a waiting list for childcare, told there isn't enough money left to help them. In July 2011, lawmakers passed and the governor signed broad changes to Minnesota's welfare laws as a result of our investigation. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators Bravus Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Posted January 10, 2012 That's not the point in this thread. He has said he did *not* say 'black people'. Yet the whole foundation of the OP is based on him saying it. If he's telling the truth, the OP has no foundation. Quote Truth is important
bonnie Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 That's not the point in this thread. He has said he did *not* say 'black people'. Yet the whole foundation of the OP is based on him saying it. If he's telling the truth, the OP has no foundation. It may very well be that she is going by reports. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Dottie Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 I've watched his video more than once, and he did say "black." He has been intimidated, as so many are, by the opposition to his actually saying something that is truthful. As he was talking, he kept talking to "you," then referred to black people, so he was not referring just to black people, as the people in the room appeared to be "white." In case you haven't noticed, Star Parker is black. Quote
Dr. Shane Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 That's not the point in this thread. He has said he did *not* say 'black people'. Yet the whole foundation of the OP is based on him saying it. If he's telling the truth, the OP has no foundation. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Moderators Bravus Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Posted January 10, 2012 Alex quoted the numbers the other day: 9% of people on food stamps in Iowa are black. Quote Truth is important
bonnie Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Alex quoted the numbers the other day: 9% of people on food stamps in Iowa are black. How many blacks in Iowa? Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Posted January 10, 2012 candidates making racist comments would see their poll numbers increase. That's the essence of the southern strategy. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Originally Posted By: Shane candidates making racist comments would see their poll numbers increase. That's the essence of the southern strategy. What a racist remark.This is all set up so that someone becomes guilty when the accuser wants him to be. Ok, that's one. Now here is the other one: "Barely days into his official presidential campaign, Texas Gov. Rick Perry has been a gusher of controversial quotes, calling President Obama’s patriotism into question, making vaguely threatening statements about Fed chairman Ben Bernanke, and now, making what some see as a blatant reference to President Obama’s race by saying that “a big black cloud” is hanging over the country. AURN White House Correspondent April Ryan, for one, wasn’t shy about calling Perry out.... Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 That's the essence of the southern strategy. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Where was the never ending cry of racism when Harry Reid apologizes for "light skinned" remark about Obama Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) apologized today for referring to President Barack Obama as "light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect" in private conversations during the 2008 presidential campaign. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Posted January 10, 2012 A short time ago you brought up Herman Cain and what you felt was offensive remarks. While he was running these type of remarks by liberals/black/white were common. Where was your cry of racism then Bonnie yo are comparing Apples and Orangutans. There is a big difference between one black comedian lambasting a black politician, (White comedians do it to white politicians all the time). and a whole political party having a strategy to scare white voters into voting for them. Or course that comedian was wrong. He's not that funny anyway. Would you say the republican party is wrong? Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Moderators lazarus Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Posted January 10, 2012 Where was the never ending cry of racism when Harry Reid apologizes for "light skinned" remark about Obama Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) apologized today for referring to President Barack Obama as "light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect" in private conversations during the 2008 presidential campaign. Perhaps you missed it. It was all over the news. But that's all you got right? Even Colin Powell indicated that the GOP has a problem with racism. Game over! Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Originally Posted By: bonnie A short time ago you brought up Herman Cain and what you felt was offensive remarks. While he was running these type of remarks by liberals/black/white were common. Where was your cry of racism then Bonnie yo are comparing Apples and Orangutans. There is a big difference between one black comedian lambasting a black politician, (White comedians do it to white politicians all the time). and a whole political party having a strategy to scare white voters into voting for them. Or course that comedian was wrong. He's not that funny anyway. Would you say the republican party is wrong? Those in any party that express racism are wrong. Regardless. The "strategy to scare white voters" is a joke. It is not "one" black" comedian against one black politician. A black skin does not give ownership to the word black,granting permission for some to use as they wish while demanding those they oppose ask permission to speak the word Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Perhaps you missed it. It was all over the news. But that's all you got right? Even Colin Powell indicated that the GOP has a problem with racism. Game over! Nope,didn't miss it.It was never treated as a "strategy" by the left.It was never treated as an entire party was guilty I could care less about Colin Powell,when did he become the defining word on racism? Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Posted January 10, 2012 The "strategy to scare white voters" is a joke. It for real Bonnie, sorry. From Wiki: In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the Republican Party strategy of winning elections in Southern states by exploiting anti-African American racism and fears of lawlessness among Southern white voters and appealing to fears of growing federal power in social and economic matters (generally lumped under the concept of states rights). Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Dr. Shane Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 That's the essence of the southern strategy. I am getting the idea that there are Black Americans so paranoid about a southern strategy that they feel it is acceptable to stereotype an entire class of people in exactly the same way they insist others should not stereotype them. The source of information on this southern strategy died 20 years ago. I don't think anyone needs to be paranoid anymore. Republicans that want to balance the budget simply want to balance the budget. There is no hidden racist agenda there. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
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