Neil D Posted April 15, 2012 Author Posted April 15, 2012 Maybe Bonnie is independantly wealthy, but I am not....You are talking about having two different servers, and I don't have that....So, again, you and Miss Knowitall Bonnie are totally wrong... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Guest Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Also one can use proxy servers, and make it appear to come from a different part of the country, or a different part of the world, for that matter. It's free. Just google proxy server, and you'll see what I mean. Quote
Neil D Posted April 15, 2012 Author Posted April 15, 2012 What is an IP address? Every device connected to the public Internet is assigned a unique number known as an Internet Protocol (IP) address. IP addresses consist of four numbers separated by periods (also called a 'dotted-quad') and look something like 127.0.0.1. Since these numbers are usually assigned to internet service providers within region-based blocks, an IP address can often be used to identify the region or country from which a computer is connecting to the Internet. An IP address can sometimes be used to show the user's general location. Wanna try again? as for "proxy servers" I don't have that type of internet savey to do that....try again... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Guest Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Wanna try again? as for "proxy servers" I don't have that type of internet savey to do that....try again... That's easy enough to say. Are you internet savvy enough to use google? You obviously are, after your last post about the IP address. And that's all it takes. Quote
Woody Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Originally Posted By: hamilton-beach Wanna try again? as for "proxy servers" I don't have that type of internet savey to do that....try again... That's easy enough to say. Are you internet savvy enough to use google? You obviously are, after your last post about the IP address. And that's all it takes. I'm not sure why Neil keeps this up. But to each his own. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators Bravus Posted April 15, 2012 Moderators Posted April 15, 2012 1. Did you guys *read* the Salon article? It was a thoughtful piece about Newt's claims that both conceded Fox had probably accentuated the positive stories about Romney and the negative ones about Gingrich, but that at the same time Gingrich was in many ways responsible for his own downfall. I did *not* post it as evidence that Fox is biased (see below), but because I found it an interesting perspective on this topical issue. 2. What is 'official' in the title is *not* that Fox is biased, but that Newt *said* Fox is biased. And that's a simple fact, there's video of him saying it. I still wouldn't believe Newt if he told me it was raining and I was soaking wet and watching the drops fall, and no-one is ever going to convince the partisans that Fox is any less balanced than Blondin, but the basic claim here - that Newt said Fox is biased - should surely be uncontroversial, because it's the simple truth. Quote Truth is important
bonnie Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 1. Did you guys *read* the Salon article? It was a thoughtful piece about Newt's claims that both conceded Fox had probably accentuated the positive stories about Romney and the negative ones about Gingrich, but that at the same time Gingrich was in many ways responsible for his own downfall. I did *not* post it as evidence that Fox is biased (see below), but because I found it an interesting perspective on this topical issue. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Guest Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Quote: That's easy enough to say. Are you internet savvy enough to use google? You obviously are, after your last post about the IP address. And that's all it takes. I'm not sure why Neil keeps this up. But to each his own. I find it rather sad really. But what can I do? Some people never tell the truth, it's just not in them. Quote
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted April 15, 2012 Administrators Posted April 15, 2012 The point of it all is that Newt, a conservative, is whining that Fox did not do his bidding by covering him as he wanted to be covered after being one of their paid commentators and being the patriarch of Republican politics. And defecting to CNN for "better" treatment simply means that CNN will give him an opportunity after he drops out of the race to get paid to express his POV. Why else would any politician complain about media coverage from any media outlet? It is usually broad based against all media for reporting what the candidate says and does. So why would he single out Fox? Because there is a general expectation that conservatives should get favorable coverage from Fox and that Fox would focus its less favorable coverage for Democrats. Newt feels like he has been treated unfairly in that scheme of things. Fox betrayed his expectation and treated him like he wasn't a conservative in all that "fair and balanced" coverage. Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
Guest Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 If you would not believe Newt if he told me it was raining and I was soaking wet and watching the drops fall,what is there are about this statement that makes it official. Quote
bonnie Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Why else would any politician complain about media coverage from any media outlet? It is usually broad based against all media for reporting what the candidate says and does. So why would he single out Fox? Because there is a general expectation that conservatives should get favorable coverage from Fox and that Fox would focus its less favorable coverage for Democrats. Newt feels like he has been treated unfairly in that scheme of things. Fox betrayed his expectation and treated him like he wasn't a conservative in all that "fair and balanced" coverage. Sometimes maybe they have a point,sometimes they are right and sometimes they are whining.Fox betraying certain expectations is hardly proof of bias. I do realize that Romney has been the choice from day one,but Newt had his day by invitation many times and took it many times as did Romney Actually Democrats are treated a lot more fairly than they treat republicans or conservatives. I would still like to know how Newt made anything official in the eyes of those here that have denounced him at every turn. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I find it rather sad really. But what can I do? Some people never tell the truth, it's just not in them. First time I have been called wealthy because I had aol at one time.AOL does not have a static IP number,there are a couple of others that don't either and you will get a different IP everytime you log in Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Guest Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Fox betrayed his expectation and treated him like he wasn't a conservative in all that "fair and balanced" coverage. You mean kind of like when your people (mainstream media) tried to squash out Hillary, when the time came, against Obama? That's not really the kind of bias I am concerned about. Quote
Woody Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 Originally Posted By: Tom Wetmore Why else would any politician complain about media coverage from any media outlet? It is usually broad based against all media for reporting what the candidate says and does. So why would he single out Fox? Because there is a general expectation that conservatives should get favorable coverage from Fox and that Fox would focus its less favorable coverage for Democrats. Newt feels like he has been treated unfairly in that scheme of things. Fox betrayed his expectation and treated him like he wasn't a conservative in all that "fair and balanced" coverage. Sometimes maybe they have a point,sometimes they are right and sometimes they are whining.Fox betraying certain expectations is hardly proof of bias. I do realize that Romney has been the choice from day one,but Newt had his day by invitation many times and took it many times as did Romney Actually Democrats are treated a lot more fairly than they treat republicans or conservatives. I would still like to know how Newt made anything official in the eyes of those here that have denounced him at every turn. Good Fair and Balanced comment Bonnie. I would venture to say - that over the past year - Newt has had more air time on Fox than Romney. Now NO - I do not have a reference for this. I base this on personal watching of Fox and I watch it many hours each day. Take it or Leave it. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Members phkrause Posted April 16, 2012 Members Posted April 16, 2012 I would venture to say - that over the past year - Newt has had more air time on Fox than Romney. Now NO - I do not have a reference for this. I base this on personal watching of Fox and I watch it many hours each day. Take it or Leave it. I would agree Woody, Newt has had much more air time than Romney. Also I'd say that Fox and most other conservative sites have been behind most of the candidates other than Romney, as you also have been and have seen that from most others as well. I do agree with Bonnie that from the very beginning Romney has been the front runner. Like Rodney Dangerfield used to say "I get no respect." From my view this has been Romney getting no respect from his fellow republicans, until now. I think that's sad. Its been my opinion that he has the best chance. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Woody Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 Originally Posted By: Woody I would venture to say - that over the past year - Newt has had more air time on Fox than Romney. Now NO - I do not have a reference for this. I base this on personal watching of Fox and I watch it many hours each day. Take it or Leave it. I would agree Woody, Newt has had much more air time than Romney. Also I'd say that Fox and most other conservative sites have been behind most of the candidates other than Romney, as you also have been and have seen that from most others as well. I do agree with Bonnie that from the very beginning Romney has been the front runner. Like Rodney Dangerfield used to say "I get no respect." From my view this has been Romney getting no respect from his fellow republicans, until now. I think that's sad. Its been my opinion that he has the best chance. I agree that he has gotten little respect. But then the other choices were conservative choices. Romney is not. But he is a Republican - and so I now LOVE him. I am willing to put all past differences aside. Go Romney. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
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