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SALVATION IN TYPE AND ANTI-TYPE

BY THE PROPHET E.G.W.

Yet every mind through whom the Holy Spirit has worked has presented these themes in a light that is fresh and new. The truths of redemption are capable of constant development and expansion. Though old, they are ever new, constantly revealing to the seeker for truth a greater glory and a mightier power.

In every age there is a new development of truth, a message of God to the people of that generation. The old truths are all essential; new truth is not independent of the old, but an unfolding of it. It is only as the old truths are understood that we can comprehend the new. When Christ desired to open to His disciples the truth of His resurrection, He began "at Moses and all the prophets" and "expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself." Luke 24:27. But it is the light which shines in the fresh unfolding of truth that glorifies the old. He who rejects or neglects the new does not really possess the old. For him it loses its vital power and becomes but a lifeless form.” COL 127-128

“The gospel of Christ reflects glory upon the Jewish age. It sheds light upon the whole Jewish economy, and gives significance to the ceremonial law. The tabernacle, or temple, of God on earth was a pattern of the original in heaven. All the ceremonies of the Jewish law were prophetic, typical of mysteries in the plan of redemption.” 6BC 1095.5

“Christ was the foundation of the Jewish economy. The whole system of types and symbols was a compacted prophecy of the gospel, a presentation in which were bound up the promises of redemption.” AA 14.1

“ In Him the sacrificial types were to meet their antitype, and His death on the cross was to lend significance to the entire Jewish economy.” AA 227.3

“The past, the history of the Jewish economy from the beginning to the end, instead of being spoken of contemptuously and sneered at as “the dark ages,” will reveal light, and still more light, as it is studied.” CTr 327.3

“Christ's mission was not understood by the people of His time. The manner of His coming was not in accordance with their expectations. The Lord Jesus was the foundation of the whole Jewish economy. Its imposing services were of divine appointment. They were designed to teach the people that at the time appointed One would come to whom those ceremonies pointed.” COL 34.3

In types and symbols the great truths of redemption were veiled. Yet when Christ came, the Jews did not recognize Him to whom all these symbols pointed. They had the word of God in their hands; but the traditions which had been handed down from generation to generation, and the human interpretation of the Scriptures, hid from them the truth as it is in Jesus. The spiritual import of the sacred writings was lost. The treasure house of all knowledge was open to them, but they knew it not.” COL 104.4

“The significance of the Jewish economy is not yet fully comprehended. Truths vast and profound are shadowed forth in its rites and symbols. The gospel is the key that unlocks its mysteries.” COL 133

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I was taken off in vision. . . . I saw that we sensed and realized but little of the importance of the Sabbath, to what we yet should realize and know of its importance and glory. . . . But when the refreshing and latter rain shall come from the presence of the Lord and the glory of His power . . . . Then shall we see the Sabbath more in its importance and glory. But we shall not see it in all its glory and importance until the covenant of peace is made with us at the voice of God, . . . .” Mar 245

"I saw that God had children who do not see and keep the Sabbath. They have not rejected the light upon it. And at the commencement of the time of trouble, we were filled with the Holy Ghost as we went forth and proclaimed the Sabbath more fully. This enraged the churches and nominal Adventists, as they could not refute the Sabbath truth. And at this time God's chosen all saw clearly that we had the truth, and they came out and endured the persecution with us. I saw the sword, famine, pestilence, and great confusion in the land. The wicked thought that we had brought the judgments upon them, and they rose up and took counsel to rid the earth of us, thinking that then the evil would be stayed. CET 93.2

“One day as Elder Corliss stepped out of a train, the guard [conductor] stopped him with the request that he explain Colossians 2:16. They stopped, and as the crowd rushed by, the explanation was given, and from Leviticus 23:37, 38 it was shown that there were sabbaths besides the Sabbath of the Lord.” RH, January 7, 1896 par. 14

“And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.” Leviticus 23:11 KJV

“And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days;” Leviticus 23:15,16. KJV

“Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first [day] of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets” Leviticus 23:24.

“Also on the tenth [day] of this seventh month [there shall be] a day of atonement: . . . .It [shall be] unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth [day] of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.” Leviticus 23:27-32. KJV

“Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a sabbath.” Leviticus 23:39,40.

"The Passover was followed by the seven days' feast of unleavened bread. On the second day of the feast, the first fruits of the year's harvest, a sheaf of barley, was presented before the Lord. All the ceremonies of the feast were types of the work of Christ. DA 77

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These types were fulfilled, not only as to the event, but as to the time. On the fourteenth day of the first Jewish month, the very day and month on which, for fifteen long centuries, the passover lamb had been slain, Christ, having eaten the passover with his disciples, instituted that feast which was to commemorate his own death as “the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” That same night he was taken by wicked hands, to be crucified and slain. And as the antitype of the wave-sheaf, our Lord was raised from the dead on the third day, “the first-fruits of them that slept,” [1 Corinthians 15:20.]. . .

In like manner, the types which relate to the second advent must be fulfilled at the time pointed out in the symbolic service. Under the Mosaic system, the cleansing of the sanctuary, or the great day of atonement, occurred on the tenth day of the seventh Jewish month, [Leviticus 16:29-34.]. . .” GC88 399, PP539.4

"And He [Christ] gave unto Moses, when He had made an end of communicating with him upon Mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written by the finger of God." Nothing written on those tables could be blotted out. The precious record of the law was placed in the ark of the testament and is still there, safely hidden from the human family. But in God's appointed time He will bring forth these tables of stone to be a testimony to all the world against the disregard of His commandments and against the idolatrous worship of a counterfeit Sabbath" (MS 122, 1901). 1BC1109.

“The tables of stone are hidden by God TO BE PRODUCED IN THE GREAT JUDGMENT DAY just as He wrote them.” Review and Herald, March 26, 1908, E. G. White.

“God will not break His covenant, nor alter the thing that has gone out of His lips. His word will stand fast forever as unalterable as His throne. At the judgment this covenant will be brought forth, plainly written with the finger of God, and the world will be arraigned before the bar of Infinite Justice to receive sentence.” PK 187.1 E.G. White.

“And Moses commanded them, saying, At the end of [every] seven years, in the solemnity of the year of release, in the feast of tabernacles,

When all Israel is come to appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose, thou shalt read this law before all Israel in their hearing.

Gather the people together, men, and women, and children, and thy stranger that [is] within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the LORD your God, and observe to do all the words of this law:

And [that] their children, which have not known [any thing], may hear, and learn to fear the LORD your God, as long as ye live in the land whither ye go over Jordan to possess it.” Deuteronomy 31:10-13.

“ 25:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses in mount Sinai, saying,. . . . But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD:” Leviticus 25:4. KJV

“And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years.

Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubilee to sound on the tenth [day] of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land.

And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout [all] the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubilee unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.

A jubilee shall that fiftieth year be unto you:” Leviticus 25:8-11. KJV

“And when the never-ending blessing was pronounced on those who had honored God in keeping His Sabbath holy, there was a mighty shout of victory over the beast and over his image.

Then commenced the jubilee, when the land should rest. I saw the pious slave rise in triumph and victory and shake off the chains that bound him, while his wicked master was in confusion and knew not what to do; for the wicked could not understand the words of the voice of God.” EW 34,35.

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Beautiful quotes!

Now, tell me, what is your point? bwink

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

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Hey Johnnboy, I haven't seen you in a while. And Hey to you too Marcos. Hope everything is going well.

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Greetings Marcos S. and RLH,

“The truths of redemption are capable of constant development and expansion. Though old, they are ever new, constantly revealing to the seeker of truth a greater glory and a mightier power.” Christ's Object Lessons, 127

My point is:

The plan of salvation given to Moses and shown in the ceremonies of the old sanctuary with the precise schedule of when the ceremonies were to be observed, is capable of constant development and expansion.” There is so much more to learn from these types by the manner is which Jesus fulfilled them at His first advent. He interpreted the whole system, even though some of the types relate to His second advent.

Then the statement from The Great Controversy, page 399, which says, “In like manner the types which relate to the second advent must be fulfilled at the time pointed out in the symbolic service,” has so much greater meaning.

I don't believe that we have seen the connection that the 7th day Sabbath has to the sanctuary. But through Jesus' interpretation by His fulfillment, He revealed it in a new light. I believe that if we have the Holy Spirit leading us, as seekers for truth, we will see the greater glory and the mightier power,” and we will see this close connection of the “Sabbath” to the sanctuary through the “shadows” that it casts within the sanctuary system. Then we'll see the true meaning of the “shadows” in Colossians 2:16, 17. It is all through Jesus' interpretation.

Do you both agree with what I have stated so far?

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Do you both agree with what I have stated so far?

I think so.

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For sure the Sabbath has a lot to do with the Sanctuary as that is the window in time we are to come and tabernacle with Him and He has come to tabernacle with us and it will be so throughout eternity. A special time to revel in the Lord and to have His light to shine upon us to be strenthened for another week. Then in the week to continue to abide in Him for strength for the great battle continuously with the devil.

Praise His Holy and Wonderful Name the battle will soon come to a close, yet a few more years, they will seem long is the problem.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

A Freeman In Jesus Christ

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O.K. RLH, very good.

Let's carefully examine the evidence from the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy regarding the connection of the Sabbath to the old and new covenants in the sanctuary system. We are actually working backwards from the anti-typical Jubilee which is yet future, into the old sanctuary system.

I saw that we sensed and realized but little of the importance of the Sabbath, to what we yet should realize and know of its importance and glory. I saw we knew not what it was yet to ride upon the high places of the earth and to be fed with the heritage of Jacob. But when the refreshing and latter rain shall come from the presence of the Lord and the glory of His power we shall know what it is to be fed with the heritage of Jacob and ride upon the high places of the earth. Then shall we see the Sabbath more in its importance and glory. But we shall not see it in all its glory and importance until the covenant of peace is made with us at the voice of God,...” Maranatha 245

This statement tells us that we know little about the Sabbath until the Latter rain comes, and then we shall know still more about the Sabbath when we hear the voice of God. Early Writings, p. 285, 286, says that the Jubilee commences at the same time that we hear the voice of God.

And as God spoke the day and the hour of Jesus' coming and delivered the everlasting covenant to His people,... And when the never-ending blessing was pronounced on those who had honored God in keeping His Sabbath holy, there was a mighty shout of victory over the beast and over his image. Then commenced the jubilee, when the land should rest.” Early Writings, 285, 286

Leviticus 25:8-10 tells us that the Jubilee trumpet was blown on the Day of Atonement.

And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years.

Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubilee to sound on the tenth [day] of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land.

And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, ...” Leviticus 25:8-10

Now, Leviticus 23:27-32, states that the Day of Atonement is to be a “Sabbath”. What “kind” of Sabbath? Let the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy give the answer. Being it is always on the 10th day of the seventh, it is impossible that it could always be on the 7th day Sabbath each year

Also on the tenth [day] of this seventh month [there shall be] a day of atonement: ...It [shall be] unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls:”Leviticus 23:27-32.

The Spirit of Prophecy draws attention to the “shadow” Sabbaths of Colossians 2:16, 17, in which the holy days, new moon and Sabbaths are all shadows of things to come”.

In explanation, Ellen White draws on the text from Leviticus 23:38. 39, Beside the Sabbaths of the Lord....”

Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, ...Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month,...ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a sabbath.”

"One day as Elder Corliss stepped out of a train, the guard [conductor] stopped him with the request that he explain Colossians 2:16. They stopped, and as the crowd rushed by, the explanation was given, and from Leviticus 23:37, 38 it was shown that there were sabbaths besides the Sabbath of the Lord.” Review and Herald, January 7, 1896 EGW

The only true interpretation of these “shadow” Sabbaths is to study how they were fulfilled by the Messiah at the time He fulfilled the Passover, the Feast of Unleavened Bread and the Wave Sheaf offering.

Do you see anything that I'm over-looking, so far?

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Some excellent points Johnnboy

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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The only true interpretation of these “shadow” Sabbaths is to study how they were fulfilled by the Messiah at the time He fulfilled the Passover, the Feast of Unleavened Bread and the Wave Sheaf offering.

Do you see anything that I'm over-looking, so far?

So far so good! :)

What are your thoughts of the more recent "Lunar Sabbath" theology that is growing? And Feast-Keeping?

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

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Brother Gibs,

Yes, the at-one-ment of man with God, was the purpose of the whole sanctuary system. God had commanded Moses, “Let them make me a sanctuary that I may dwell among them.” God wanted to dwell with man, and bring man up to Him through the services portrayed in the old tabernacle.

In the symbolic service, the at-one-ment was accomplished on the Day of Atonement, through the blood of the sacrifice. The true Lamb of God was sacrificed on the anti-type or the fulfillment of the Passover.

The whole system was prophetic, even the “shadow” Sabbaths, that God placed throughout the annual feast days. Thus, the holy creation Sabbath casts its “shadows” throughout the whole sanctuary system.

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Some excellent points Johnnboy

Yes, praise God for the inspired evidence that we have available to search out the truth.

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Originally Posted By: Johnnboy
The only true interpretation of these “shadow” Sabbaths is to study how they were fulfilled by the Messiah at the time He fulfilled the Passover, the Feast of Unleavened Bread and the Wave Sheaf offering.

Do you see anything that I'm over-looking, so far?

So far so good! :)

What are your thoughts of the more recent "Lunar Sabbath" theology that is growing? And Feast-Keeping?

Marcos,

Very good, now to answer your question about the “Lunar Sabbaths”:

I think we both agree that to better recognize any counterfeit theory on any topic, we need only have a thorough knowledge and understanding of the genuine.

First, we need to focus on the genuine.

We cannot deny the fact that there were “Sabbaths” that were scheduled from the new moon of the first month and of the seventh month and scheduled on specific days of the month, as the feast days were, themselves, in the old sanctuary system. But it is of utmost importance that we really understand what they were prophetic of, as the Spirit of Prophecy states,

“ All the ceremonies of the Jewish law were prophetic, typical of mysteries in the plan of redemption.” 6BC 1095

These Sabbaths, then, were prophetic. As Paul states in Colossians 2:16. 17, where he lists “holy days”, “new moons”, and “Sabbaths” and then says that they are-- “shadows of things to come.”

The Spirit of Prophecy explains these “shadow” Sabbaths in Colossians 2:16,17, by drawing attention to the days that are called, “Sabbaths,” scattered among the annual feasts.

One day as Elder Corliss stepped out of a train, the guard [conductor] stopped him with the request that he explain Colossians 2:16. They stopped, and as the crowd rushed by, the explanation was given, and from Leviticus 23:37, 38 it was shown that there were sabbaths besides the Sabbath of the Lord.”Review and Herald, January 7, 1896.

Up to this point then, we know that these “shadow” Sabbaths existed in the old sanctuary system and

that they were scheduled by the new moon of the first month and the seventh month only-- hence they were “lunar-based Sabbaths”. They were not the 7th day Sabbath, the Sabbath of the Lord, and that these “shadow” Sabbaths can only be interpreted by their Creator, Jesus, the Messiah. And we have only to believe His interpretation.

But the bigotry of the Jews hindered the spread of the light. Intent on maintaining the separation between themselves and other nations, they were unwilling to impart the knowledge they still possessed concerning the symbolic service. The true interpreter must come. The One whom all these types prefigured must explain their significance.” DA 33

When Jesus fulfilled the types relating to His first advent, all 8 of the “shadow” Sabbaths, mentioned in Leviticus 23:15, 16, fell on 7th day Sabbaths. This, then, would be the only interpretation that we could ever apply as to the meaning of the “shadow” Sabbaths.

The Passover was followed by the seven day's feast of unleavened bread. The first and the seventh day were days of holy convocation, when no servile work was to be performed. On the second day of the feast, the first fruits of the year's harvest were presented before God. . . . A sheaf of this grain was waved by the priest before the altar of God, as an acknowledgment that all was His. Not until this ceremony had been performed was the harvest to be gathered.” PP 539

The Passover was on the 14th day of the first month, (Leviticus 23:5), the Feast of Unleavened Bread began on the 15th day (Leviticus 23:6) and the Wave Sheaf offering was on the second day of this feast, the 16th day (see statement above from PP 539 and Leviticus 23:11). This 15th day, then, is the first “shadow” Sabbath of the eight Sabbaths listed in Leviticus 23:15,16

Everyone of these 8 “shadow Sabbaths” listed in Leviticus 23:15,16 have a perfect 7-day sequence, similar to the seventh day Sabbath, but fall on different days of the week each year, since they are scheduled from the first new moon. They govern the schedule of the “Feast of Weeks”, the Day of Pentecost, which is “on the morrow after the seventh Sabbath”.... “shall ye number 50 days.”

This would prove that none of these “shadow” or lunar Sabbaths were scheduled from the second or third new moon. The count to the Day of Pentecost or the “Feast of Weeks” was a continuous count from the first new moon. This is an extremely important point to remember.

Is everyone following this so far?

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I think I'm following to a good degree so far, but I'll keep reading it over a few times to let it sink in. I appreciate you sharing this information.

So would you say the above information above helps to prove the Lunar Sabbatarians wrong? So far that's what it seems.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

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The whole system was prophetic, even the “shadow” Sabbaths, that God placed throughout the annual feast days. Thus, the holy creation Sabbath casts its “shadows” throughout the whole sanctuary system.

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The holy creation Sabbath casts its "shadows" throughout the whole sanctuary system!!!

Are you saying that the seventh-day Sabbath was a shadow?

sky

"The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

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So would you say the above information above helps to prove the Lunar Sabbatarians wrong? So far that's what it seems.

Lysimachus, is Johnnboy answering a different question than you asked? It looks like it to me, but I haven't been able to read minds very well lately.

LD

LD

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Brother Marcos,

Really appreciate your feedback. Yes, these Spirit of Prophecy statements are really very amazing.

God is unfolding this light from the old sanctuary to help us refute the attacks against the true Sabbath, which begins Friday night at sunset and ends Saturday night at sunset.

One can easily recognize the source of these false Sabbath theories because the purpose is only to tear down the 7th day Sabbath that God made at creation. New truth always glorifies the old. (See COL 127, 128)

The annual Sabbaths dispersed among the feast days were prophecies, just as everything else in the old covenant. They were prophetic, they show us just where in the creation week the feasts would meet their fulfillment.

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The whole system was prophetic, even the “shadow” Sabbaths, that God placed throughout the annual feast days. Thus, the holy creation Sabbath casts its “shadows” throughout the whole sanctuary system.

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The holy creation Sabbath casts its "shadows" throughout the whole sanctuary system!!!

Are you saying that the seventh-day Sabbath was a shadow?

sky

No, sky,

Brother, the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy make it very clear that the 7th day Sabbath is not a "shadow". I do believe the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy are totally inspired by God.

sky, if you are standing in the light, your body will cast a "shadow", because you are the substance, you are not the shadow. Your "shadow" is not you, it is only a "shadow" of you.

“We are now keeping the seventh day,--the very day God has told us to keep,--and are here assembled on it for religious worship. The papacy has brought in another day, a common working day, and established it in opposition to the Sabbath of the Lord.” {RH, December 18, 1888 par. 10}

“The Sabbath was committed to Adam,... . There was nothing in it shadowy, or of restricted application to any people.” {FLB 32.2}

“The Sabbath was..... wholly commemorative,.... There was nothing in it shadowy or of restricted application to any people.” {PP 48.1}

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Sky,

From the Spirit of Prophecy statements, the 7th day Sabbath is not a "shadow".

It is the substance that casts its "shadows" into the old sanctuary system--therefore, there were "Sabbaths, besides the Sabbaths of the Lord."

According to Colossians 2:16, 17 these Sabbaths were "shadows of things to come."

They were scheduled from the new moon of the first and seventh months like the feast days, themselves.

Whenever the new moon of the first month happens to fall on a 7th day Sabbath, the creation Sabbath, then all of the 8 "shadow" Sabbaths within the spring feasts, all fell on 7th day Sabbaths that year. Interesting phenomonen!

Whenever the new moon of the seventh month happens to fall on a 7th day Sabbath, then all 4 of the "shadow" Sabbaths in the fall feasts also, fall on 7th day Sabbaths, including the Day of Atonement, the 10th day of the 7th month. I'll explain how this can occur in more detail in one of the following posts.

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I think I'm following to a good degree so far, but I'll keep reading it over a few times to let it sink in. I appreciate you sharing this information.

So would you say the above information above helps to prove the Lunar Sabbatarians wrong? So far that's what it seems.

Marcos,

Sorry, I had only answered part of your question.

You had asked about "feast-keeping"?

This statement from the Spirit of Prophecy gives a very solid answer.

"The ceremonial law was given by Christ. Even after it was no longer to be observed, Paul presented it before the Jews in its true position and value, showing its place in the plan of redemption and its relation to the work of Christ;" PP 367.

Paul presented the ceremonial law's true position and value. Because it was a reflection of the real plan of salvation in event and timing, it has value and significance for us in it's prophetic role. But there is no value for us today, in practicing the ritualistic aspects of the feasts, other than to study their deep meaning.

If some choose to study their prophetic significance on those specific feast days, I would have no argument with them.

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From my understanding, lunar sabbatarians are those who keep a floating weekly Sabbath. Each month, the days of the week are calculated by the new moon. Sabbaths are always on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th of each lunar month. Their Sabbaths may be on Tuesdays one month, another month it would be on Fridays, etc. There are all kinds of problems with this, not the least being that it is unbiblical.

LD

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scared Thanks LD for explaining the floating Sabbath. Can you imagine telling your employer "I can't work next Tues because it is my Sabbath" and later "I can't work next Friday because it is my Sabbath"

Moreover, I would become confused and forget to check when to celebrate the Sabbath.

If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God

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Johnnboy,

You need to write a book, or at least get an article published about all of this. And let the Lunar Sabbatarians at www.WorldsLastChance.com have it! :D

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

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From my understanding, lunar sabbatarians are those who keep a floating weekly Sabbath. Each month, the days of the week are calculated by the new moon. Sabbaths are always on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th of each lunar month. Their Sabbaths may be on Tuesdays one month, another month it would be on Fridays, etc. There are all kinds of problems with this, not the least being that it is unbiblical.

LynnDel,

Yes, that is how the lunar Sabbatarian theology teaches. I agree with your statement that it is unbiblical. This lunar Sabbatarian teaching is a false understanding of the "shadow" Sabbaths within the old sanctuary system, and does not harmonize with any of the Biblical evidence regarding the "shadow" Sabbaths.

It is an invention to distract from the truth of the "shadow" Sabbaths and an attempt to tear down the 7th day Sabbath of the Lord, as I mentioned in a previous post.

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