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Originally Posted By: skyblue888
God allows pain to discipline us and to bring us back to our first allegiance. sky
Sometimes "pain" just crushes us, end of story. And this happens to the "faithful" as well as the "unfaithful." Just as the rain falls on the just and on the unjust. I don't think you know what you are talking about here.

Over, What exactly did I say that made you think I didn't believe that pain falls on the just and the unjust? :)

"And if any man think that he knoweth anything, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know ." 1 Cor.8:2.

"Show them that it is not God who causes pain and suffering, but that man through his own ignorance and sin has brought this condition upon himself." 6 T 280.

We bring pain upon ourselves like when we ignore the principles of health reform. Is that what Stan meant to say when he asked, Why do we allow it? He didn't say. But if it is what he meant to say, I agree.

Another source of pain is Satan, the author of sin and suffering. Look at the pain he brought upon Job because of His being faithful to God! And, on top of that, he brought three so-called friends to him to make him feel responsible for his sufferings. God allowed Satan to bring much pain upon Job and yet Job remained loyal to God.

"Pain is nature's protest against abuse." 2 S.M.451.

"Failure to give digestive organs proper rest causes suffering." CD 174.

sky

"The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

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