LifeHiscost Posted August 15, 2012 Author Posted August 15, 2012 Quote: That is why He became a man, fallen, with our propensities to sin. While Jesus became like us, He was born without propensities for sin. He came to prove that Adam could have been victorious over sin before His fall. We are initially born with sinful natures and cannot find victory or achive the sinless life, without the intervention of the Savior which we cannot receive without repentance. If we have no sorrow for the sin we now have, there can be no repentance and we cannot live the holy life given to the repentant soul. "But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness. If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling God a liar and showing that his word has no place in our hearts." 1 John 1:9 NLT "I will not talk with you much more, for the prince (evil genius, ruler) of the world is coming. And he has no claim on Me. [He has nothing in common with Me; there is nothing in Me that belongs to him, and he has no power over Me.]"John 14:30 AMP God blesses! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
Robert Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 He was born without propensities for sin. That means He was never a slave to sin as we are by birth. His nature recoiled against our nature..... Quote
JoeMo Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Christ was also born full of the Holy Spirit - something that we don't receive until our baptism by the Spirit (different from baptism by water). Quote
Gibs Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Even though there wasn't in Him the propensity to sin by taking our fallen nature He well knew our propensity to fall into it. I had stated that wrong before and want to clear that up. Here is I believe a right explanation of this by EGW. Christ assumed our fallen nature, and was subject to every temptation to which man is subject.--Ms 80, 1903, p. 12. {17MR 29.4} Christ became one with the human family--bone of our bone and flesh of our flesh. . . . He pledged Himself to endure all the temptations that man must endure, that He might know how to succor those who are tempted.--Ms 102, 1903, p. 7. {17MR 29.5} 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Quote A Freeman In Jesus Christ
LifeHiscost Posted August 16, 2012 Author Posted August 16, 2012 Quote: Christ assumed our fallen nature, and was subject to every temptation to which man is subject.-- Just as the enemy of souls now tempts me to be selfish with my money. Having accepted the Word (Jesus) I know it is more blessed to give than to receive. And so the temptation to hoard more than is meet is not a problem as it was when I didn't believe. The sin is not in being tempted. It is in yielding to the temptation, just as Jesus was tempted yet without sin. God blesses! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
12tribes Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 Often suggested as being a reason the thoughts expressed by the Word presented are unworthy to be considered, unless attached to one or many others. So I would propose then we might have reason to put this advice given by the Holy Spirit, to rest. "He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’”" Matt 4:4 NKJV underlined mine LHC God blesses! That is a good point. There are many false doctrines because people do not follow that advice Quote Galatians 3:29(29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Gibs Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 His Word! The foundation and fountain of all true wisdom and understanding. Man's wisdom and understanding is nothing in comparison. What true we do get will be from His Word! Ro 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 1Co 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Quote A Freeman In Jesus Christ
LifeHiscost Posted August 17, 2012 Author Posted August 17, 2012 I like your avatar, 12tribes. It does reveal at least some of us in America will rise to meet Jesus with joy, when He comes the second time. I'm not sure we'll be wearing suits and ties and have short hair though. LoL God blesses! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
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