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[teresaq]

Who called her weak? Seems this whole offended feelings could have been avoided by not reading into the words what was not stated.

Since quite young I have noticed wives of speakers sitting all goo-goo eyed (I am sure there is a better phrase but I couldn't think of it at the moment)while their husbands spoke to the congregation. It is no different than what is expected of politicians' wives.

I would have been much more impressed then and now, if the wives, those so inclined, were more active participants instead of window dressing.

Sorry. I have probably offended you more by stating my true thoughts.

In our pioneer days wives were encouraged to be active participants I have recently learned. They were not expected to be part of the cheering squad but to be equally involved. Another person has pointed out that husband/wife ministerial/pastoral teams would be beneficial in that the whole church would be served. I believe that to be an excellent idea.

[Naomi]

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Originally Posted By: Woody

Originally Posted By: olger

True, Naomi. He is doing his best. Him and Nancy make a good team.

Interesting. What does Ted let Nancy do?

Who called her weak? Seems this whole offended feelings could have been avoided by not reading into the words what was not stated.

Okay Ms Teresaq(sda) I suppose you are correct, he did not say weak. My bad!! However, by twice indicating that Elder Wilson lets Mrs Wilson do something/anything would indicate that she is weak enough to be controlled; which is laughable. Would a strong person (male or female) permit their spouse to "let" them do something without permission? {don't jump on my use of the word permission as it was added by me not used by anyone that I can recall but certainly appears to be that which is indicated}

Much the same as you saying

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Since quite young I have noticed wives of speakers sitting all goo-goo eyed (I am sure there is a better phrase but I couldn't think of it at the moment)while their husbands spoke to the congregation. It is no different than what is expected of politicians' wives.

I would have been much more impressed then and now, if the wives, those so inclined, were more active participants instead of window dressing.

It is obvious that we have attended different churches. Most pastors and other leaders wives that I have known have and do work very hard in many areas of the church. Because they sit and listen to their husbands speaking makes them ladies, not window dressing. Not everyone can stand up and preach, not everyone can play or otherwise produce good music, etc

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Sorry. I have probably offended you more by stating my true thoughts.

Not to worry you can't offend me further, your true thoughts are yours and you own them. I would be most surprised if you failed to make them known.

I am simply asking that the issue being addressed without personal attacks and insults to anyone.

[Woody]

Who called her weak? Seems this whole offended feelings could have been avoided by not reading into the words what was not stated.

Since quite young I have noticed wives of speakers sitting all goo-goo eyed (I am sure there is a better phrase but I couldn't think of it at the moment)while their husbands spoke to the congregation. It is no different than what is expected of politicians' wives.

I would have been much more impressed then and now, if the wives, those so inclined, were more active participants instead of window dressing.

Sorry. I have probably offended you more by stating my true thoughts.

In our pioneer days wives were encouraged to be active participants I have recently learned. They were not expected to be part of the cheering squad but to be equally involved. Another person has pointed out that husband/wife ministerial/pastoral teams would be beneficial in that the whole church would be served. I believe that to be an excellent idea.

Thank you teresa. Well stated.

[teresaq]

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Originally Posted By: Woody

Interesting. What does Ted let Nancy do?

Originally Posted By: teresaq(sda)

Who called her weak? Seems this whole offended feelings could have been avoided by not reading into the words what was not stated.

Okay Ms Teresaq(sda) I suppose you are correct, he did not say weak. My bad!! However, by twice indicating that Elder Wilson lets Mrs Wilson do something/anything would indicate that she is weak enough to be controlled; which is laughable. Would a strong person (male or female) permit their spouse to "let" them do something without permission? {don't jump on my use of the word permission as it was added by me not used by anyone that I can recall but certainly appears to be that which is indicated}

I still don't see that as making the lady particularly "weak".

Some women have no issue with it cause that's just the way it is and they don't care. There could be a variety of reasons.

[Naomi]

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