M. T. Cross Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Thought since the whole time I have been here all the arguements, debates and fights have basically been about womens ordination, homosexuality and guns, it would be nice to have a new topic to go for the throat about. So here we have it. Tomatoes. Are these delicious sandwich and salad ingredients a fruit or a vegetable? Oh - no sources of your answer required. Quote
Liz Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I thought they were poisonous? (Sorry, I thought I would stir the pot from the get go.) Quote For what will a man be profited, if he gains the whole world, and forfeits his soul? Mat. 16:26Please, support the JDRF and help find a cure for Type 1 Diabetes. Please, support the March of Dimes.
M. T. Cross Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 Oh I sure hope not, I eat them every day. But you are stirring them in a pot I see, I eat them raw. Quote
Ted Oplinger Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Poisonous..as in from the nightshade family??? If they grow on a bush instead of a vine, will that make them a vegie? Or is ketchup a fruity sauce??? Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
cricket Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 First, define "tomato." Without defining the term, I don't believe we can have a logical, productive discussion. Additionally, please specify, are we speaking "to-MAH-to" or "to-MAY-to?" Quote
M. T. Cross Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 Technically they are a fruit. Oh contrare! (just to be contrary, cause what is a argument thread without someone being contrary just for the sake of it ) Quote
M. T. Cross Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 Poisonous..as in from the nightshade family??? If they grow on a bush instead of a vine, will that make them a vegie? Or is ketchup a fruity sauce??? Oh indeed ketchup, which has been stirred in a pot like Liz brought up. I had some earlier, so I guess I don't just eat them raw. And pasta sauce as well............ Is a tomato even still a tomato once it is cooked or has it sacrificed itself? Quote
M. T. Cross Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 First, define "tomato." Without defining the term, I don't believe we can have a logical, productive discussion. Additionally, please specify, are we speaking "to-MAH-to" or "to-MAY-to?" OFF TOPIC!!!!!! Quote
Liz Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 First, define "tomato." Without defining the term, I don't believe we can have a logical, productive discussion. Additionally, please specify, are we speaking "to-MAH-to" or "to-MAY-to?" My dad calls them "maters". Oh and can vegetarian Christians eat Beefsteak tomatoes, if they aren't even supposed to have the "appearance of evil"? Quote For what will a man be profited, if he gains the whole world, and forfeits his soul? Mat. 16:26Please, support the JDRF and help find a cure for Type 1 Diabetes. Please, support the March of Dimes.
Ted Oplinger Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Quote: Oh indeed ketchup, which has been stirred in a pot like Liz brought up. I had some earlier, so I guess I don't just eat them raw. And pasta sauce as well............ Is a tomato even still a tomato once it is cooked or has it sacrificed itself? Already this thread has descended into saucy comments...MODERATOR!!! Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
Administrators Gail Posted January 10, 2013 Administrators Posted January 10, 2013 Already this thread has descended into saucy comments...MODERATOR!!! I saw the title and had a feeling this was going to be trouble. I will be watching to see if this discussion degenerates. Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Administrators Gail Posted January 10, 2013 Administrators Posted January 10, 2013 Salsa forever!!!! You dance??? Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
OzarkWoman Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Originally Posted By: OzarkWoman Salsa forever!!!! You dance??? I eat ketchup but prefer salsa for most things. LOLOLOLOL Quote
cricket Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Salsa is good. I prefer tomatillo salsa, however. We make a mean Salsa Verde in our home! Quote
OzarkWoman Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Salsa is good. I prefer tomatillo salsa, however. We make a mean Salsa Verde in our home! I like the tomatillo also, but prefer the tomato ones. Quote
Administrators Gail Posted January 10, 2013 Administrators Posted January 10, 2013 Salsa is good. I prefer tomatillo salsa, however. We make a mean Salsa Verde in our home! Me, too! Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
hch Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Since this is a relatively short thread and easy to ketchup on, I must note that the US Supreme Court has definitively decided that tomatoes are BERRIES. And during drought conditions, the skins contain a toxin and should be removed before eating the tomatoes whether in your sandwich or salsa. But this information has come to me second hand. And though I believe it to be true and current, neither source will be available to collaborate the truthfulness of these facts until resurrection morning at which time both of these facts will no longer be true. Quote His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
cricket Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Let us consult an authority: Quote: http://www.whiteestate.org/books/mol/Chapt28.html#reference98 Mrs. White advised students to eat fruit and grains rather than vegetables for supper: “Let the students have the third meal prepared without vegetables, but with simple, wholesome food, such as fruit and bread.”97 The White family considered vegetables to include peas, beans, potatoes, turnips, parsnips, onions, cabbages, and squashes (although some of these would be classified as fruits botanically). Fruits included tomatoes, apples, pears, peaches, strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, huckleberries, grapes, cranberries, and raisins. Grains (or seeds) included wheat, corn, rye, barley, oatmeal, rice, farina, cornstarch, “and the like.”98 Some have wondered about Ellen White’s inclusion of tomatoes within the fruit group, but that she did, according to common usage.99 Quote
Members phkrause Posted January 10, 2013 Members Posted January 10, 2013 Tomato=Fruit Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Administrators Gail Posted January 10, 2013 Administrators Posted January 10, 2013 Tomato=Fruit Maybe so, but I'm not about to go adding it to my fruit salads! I will, however, add it to fruit cucumber in a Greek salad :) Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
M. T. Cross Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 Oh now you want to bring cucumbers into it. Start your own thread!!! HERESY! So we have people saying it is a fruit yet no one ever eats it for desert, or as Gail says puts it in fruit salads. So why is it a fruit? Quote
Administrators debbym Posted January 11, 2013 Administrators Posted January 11, 2013 tomato is technically a fruit, however the U.S. Supreme Court in the Nix vs. Hedden decision in 1893 determined that the tomato was a vegetable and should be taxed as a vegetable. these is one case i believe the supreme court made a deeply immoral decision, this is not right, this is just wrong. They avoided the scientific reality for the sake of some kind of taxation profit on vegetables, and fruit was not taxed. nevertheless now i prefer cucumber salsa, ...and, uh... as shocking as it may seem, cucumbers and tomatoes are genuinely equally fruits therefore having tomato and cucumber salad is a fruit salad. consequently tomato and cucumber sandwiches with toasted bread are a great kosher supper any time. especially if both are picked fresh from the garden with home-baked wholewheat bread. cucumbers are a high nutrition vegetable which i was startled to discover this year, and alkalinzing to the blood stream, tomatoes on the other hand are an acidic vegetable and for this reason, are inferior to cucumbers for your health. sorry for being off topic bit here. deb Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar.
M. T. Cross Posted January 11, 2013 Author Posted January 11, 2013 tomato is technically a fruit, however the U.S. Supreme Court in the Nix vs. Hedden decision in 1893 determined that the tomato was a vegetable and should be taxed as a vegetable. Crazy american politics......... Quote
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