La Sierra 'professor' urges people to repent of heterosexuality...

[joeb]

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You're learning! Tis the favorite ploy to redirect from answering plain and simple questions or ideas into ones own agenda. Some people often have great difficulty with expanding their thinking or listening to others because of the fear their preconceived ideas need some revision.

Assumption and presumption get in the way much dialogue on these threads...sad to say. Sometimes it is best to just drop the subject because you will never be able to correct the perception of others when it is a prized one.

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The only reason you see homosexuality in the light of it being a "disease or sickness" is because you have rejected what the Bible says about it.

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Again..... you postulate things not said by me and don't answer the questions I do postulate! What we have here is a "failure to comprehend" that question is being asked. Maybe you do and don't have an answer!!

I guess you better explain your statement about trials and tribulations to me then, because what I took from it is exactly along the lines I by which I replied.

I simply couldn't see any other reasoning behind your statement.

Then how about explaining yourself when you say you've been misread/misinterpreted so that you can be correctly understood? I asked days ago for an explanation and none has been forthcoming so far.

[BobRyan]

Originally Posted By: Olger

Nothing is so plainly taught in Scripture that God is in no way responsible for sin and suffering. Sin is an intruder, foreign to the Creator's plan.

Really? What about "the buck stops here" theory. In almost every business and government, accountability for things that go wrong goes straight to the top. God knew man would fall; even before He created him. God devised a plan to mitigate the impact of sin; and created man any ways.

[nuff sed]

We are going to MISS this professor..................hopefully! Nuff Sed

[CoAspen]

Go back and read my questions, from the beginning. They were questions, not answers. You never answered the questions but assumed something else because you were not 'listening' to the questions. As I have stated, with much experience, the tactics we often see here are not new and are designed to lead the topic away from the question. The old tactic of saying "you answer mine and then I will answer yours" in reply to an original question is rather boring.

[olger]

We are going to MISS this professor..................hopefully! Nuff Sed

[olger]

This just in:

"Disestablishing the Family: The Adventist Case for Legalizing Same-sex Civil Marriage."

http://spectrummagazine.org/node/5145#disqus_thread

[joeb]

Go back and read my questions, from the beginning. They were questions, not answers. You never answered the questions but assumed something else because you were not 'listening' to the questions. As I have stated, with much experience, the tactics we often see here are not new and are designed to lead the topic away from the question. The old tactic of saying "you answer mine and then I will answer yours" in reply to an original question is rather boring.

You spent the same amount of time writing a post to justify ignoring a request as it would have taken to honor the request. If your ideas aren't expressed clearly enough to be easily understood, just whose fault is that? The reader of your posts? Just who is being unreasonable?

[BobRyan]

This just in:

"Disestablishing the Family: The Adventist Case for Legalizing Same-sex Civil Marriage."

http://spectrummagazine.org/node/5145#disqus_thread

[debbym]

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Still we must give them credit for at least being consistent -- such that anyone who truly does not want to be deceived - need not be deceived.

the greater danger of deception is spiritual pride, and self justification.

these outward issues are distractions from the inner work of making and keeping unity with the Holy Spirit.

there is always some new hot issue to feed on, instead of feeding on the word, and walking in the Spirit.

when this is your walk you have no problem recognizing the things that come from the flesh, and the things that come from the Spirit.

i could be just fine never glimpsing at anything in the spectrum magazine forever. i have never found anything their that strengthens me or protects me from deception. and nothing their that teaches me how bad the bad is. The prince of this world is already judged and condemned.

all this issue of gays and gay marriage has not really changed anyone's behaviors. It is was it is, and is what it always has been, what is changing? nothing really.

the divine ideal for each of us, is so high, it is higher then the highest human thought. No one is close to what God's ideal for us is. we all are really not that far apart in our condition of needing God.

[CoAspen]

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It reconfirms my understanding that Spectrum plays to the low-information Adventists.

Nothing like trying to change reality!!!! Maybe your perception is based on an erroneous opinion or you don't like the information given. It is one thing to disagree but to belittle orther christians in your attempt to be right.....well, perhaps look in the mirror!

[BobRyan]

Originally Posted By: BobRyan

Still we must give them credit for at least being consistent -- such that anyone who truly does not want to be deceived - need not be deceived.

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I could be just fine never glimpsing at anything in the spectrum magazine forever. I have never found anything there that strengthens me or protects me from deception.

Certainly I agree with you that the usefulness of Spectrum is very limited indeed.

in Christ,

Bob

[olger]

Indeed, Bob.

[olger]

Farewell Bell.

`G

[olger]

http://www.ryanjbell.net/

[Gibs]

Olger,

I noticed he was for womens ordination but he never told us what the problem was the denomination had with him to put him out.

Was he for or against something they want in? I doubt it was of a too liberal of a stand!

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[olger]

Whatever it was, we should express appreciation to Larry Caviness for drawing a line in the sand.

Finally...

[olger]

Gibs, here is a link that I saw in another thread. It may help answer your question.

http://advindicate.com/?p=3029

Blessings,

G

[BobRyan]

http://www.ryanjbell.net/

[olger]

Thanks Bob. I forgot about Richard and Sally.

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[Gustave]

How many SDA Churches prepared for Lent in the manner of this video?

[BobRyan]

Thanks Bob. I forgot about Richard and Sally.

g

Did you also attend Acts29?

in Christ,

Bob

[olger]

Didn't.