Is Ted Cruz a natural born citizen?

[joeb]

lazarus,

I'm not sure what I believe about that. The reason for that is because Obama was so reluctant to release his birth certificate. Why? I don't know, but the behavior generates suspicion in my mind as it's very evasive behavior.

Cruz's behavior has been just the opposite of Obama's. He was asked for it and he immediately released it. No games played about it at all.

[Tom Wetmore]

The records were released of his birth in Hawaii.

But that is not the point of this whole new bit about Cruz. If Cruz, born in Canada to an American mother is a natural born citizen, then even if the birthers craziness was true that Obama was born in Kenya, the fact remains that his mother was also an American, just like Ted Cruz' mother. If it does not matter where Ted was born to an American mother, it does not matter for Obama since the essential facts would be the same. Both automatically US citizens by birth.

It remains incredible that this nonsense persists. Those unwilling to believe simply will never believe no matter the evidence or the complete lack of logic for their doubt.

[OzarkWoman]

The records were released of his birth in Hawaii.

But that is not the point of this whole new bit about Cruz. If Cruz, born in Canada to an American mother is a natural born citizen, then even if the birthers craziness was true that Obama was born in Kenya, the fact remains that his mother was also an American, just like Ted Cruz' mother. If it does not matter where Ted was born to an American mother, it does not matter for Obama since the essential facts would be the same. Both automatically US citizens by birth.

Not really about the records being released from Hawaii.

You need to also not the year and the state and their rules for citizenship.

[joeb]

The records were released of his birth in Hawaii.

But that is not the point of this whole new bit about Cruz. If Cruz, born in Canada to an American mother is a natural born citizen, then even if the birthers craziness was true that Obama was born in Kenya, the fact remains that his mother was also an American, just like Ted Cruz' mother. If it does not matter where Ted was born to an American mother, it does not matter for Obama since the essential facts would be the same. Both automatically US citizens by birth.

It remains incredible that this nonsense persists. Those unwilling to believe simply will never believe no matter the evidence or the complete lack of logic for their doubt.

Come on, Lazarus. At least address my post. You know as well as I do that Obama played games with this for a long time before he released his birth certificate. Why? Why didn't he do just what Cruz did? Release it within a day of the request. Why the games? So he could play victim and accuse anyone who then disbelieved him or had doubts about his story because he delayed releasing the document a few hundred times longer than Cruz did?

Anyone who acts like that deserves all the suspicion he asks for.

[Tom Wetmore]

No. The suspicion was entirely misplaced and manufactured by the same brain dead strategy to undermine, oppose and denigrate anything about Obama and anything he does in order to make him look like a failure, a fraud, and really just plain unAmerican.

There really are some seriously sinister forces at work to influence the perception of Obama in the minds of the American people unlike anything leveled against any other president in recent history, perhaps even since Lincoln. And I do think there is a common denominator there.

[lazarus]

Come on, Lazarus. At least address my post.

Why? Tom covered it.

So......you don't believe that BO is a natural born citizen because you say he played around with is birth certificate? That's irrelevant. What reasons do you have not to be able to concede he is a natural born citizen?

[OzarkWoman]

No. The suspicion was entirely misplaced and manufactured by the same brain dead strategy to undermine, oppose and denigrate anything about Obama and anything he does in order to make him look like a failure, a fraud, and really just plain unAmerican.

There really are some seriously sinister forces at work to influence the perception of Obama in the minds of the American people unlike anything leveled against any other president in recent history, perhaps even since Lincoln. And I do think there is a common denominator there.

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[joeb]

No. The suspicion was entirely misplaced and manufactured by the same brain dead strategy to undermine, oppose and denigrate anything about Obama and anything he does in order to make him look like a failure, a fraud, and really just plain unAmerican.

There really are some seriously sinister forces at work to influence the perception of Obama in the minds of the American people unlike anything leveled against any other president in recent history, perhaps even since Lincoln. And I do think there is a common denominator there.

Tom,

You're unbelievable. If you asked me a question, and I did everything but answer it for more than a year you wouldn't consider my behavior evasive? That stretches your credibility past the breaking point.

[Tom Wetmore]

Maybe if that is what actually happened. But that is just not what really happened. Answers and full disclosure and documentation were given repeatedly in multiple media. But somebody just ignored all that and acted as if it had never happened. Of course, if one only got their news from right wing propagandists it is understandable that they might have missed that information since that information really wasn't given a fair and balanced coverage.