Moderators lazarus Posted September 19, 2013 Moderators Posted September 19, 2013 If Martin had been white,the racial pimps of Jackson,Sharpton,and Obama would not have been making an issue. It would have been investigated and poof it would have been gone You are making a point that you perhaps your don't even realize you are making. If he were white there would have been a prompt and thorough investigation. Black suspected perpetrators don't get opportunity to go home and shower, come back the next day and do a walk through with the police. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted September 19, 2013 Author Posted September 19, 2013 Originally Posted By: bonnie Nothing was said at all concerning the number of whites killed by blacks. Quote: Or if Martin had done the killing it would be ignored as the countless black on white crimes are Did you post these two statements? If you choose to take that the way you have expressed,Go ahead. There have been numerous black on white murders since the death of Martin. They generally get a brief flurry in the news and then you rarely hear anything else. If you choose to take that as most white people are killed by blacks go for it. I was not referring to the number of white murders nationwide or implying that most of the "white murders" are the action of black attackers. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted September 19, 2013 Author Posted September 19, 2013 You are making a point that you perhaps your don't even realize you are making. If he were white there would have been a prompt and thorough investigation. Black suspected perpetrators don't get opportunity to go home and shower, come back the next day and do a walk through with the police. No,you are again leaving out just a few details. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Injuries Fractured nose, lacerations to the back of the head. (Zimmerman) The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman took place on the night of February 26, 2012, in Sanford, Florida, United States. Martin was a 17-year-old African American high school student. George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old mixed-race Hispanic,[Note 1] was the neighborhood watch coordinator for the gated community where Martin was temporarily staying and where the shooting took place.[4][5][6] Following an earlier call from Zimmerman, police arrived within two minutes of a gunshot during an altercation in which Zimmerman fatally shot Martin, who did not have any weapons. Zimmerman was taken into custody, treated for head injuries, then questioned for five hours. The police chief said that Zimmerman was released because there was no evidence to refute Zimmerman's claim of having acted in self-defense, and that under Florida's Stand Your Ground statute, the police were prohibited by law from making an arrest.[7] The police chief also said that Zimmerman had had a right to defend himself with lethal force.[8] As news of the case spread, thousands of protestors across the country called for Zimmerman's arrest and a full investigation.[9] Six weeks after the shooting, amid widespread, intense, and in some cases misleading media coverage,[10][11] Zimmerman was charged with murder by a special prosecutor appointed by Governor Rick Scott.[12][13] Zimmerman's trial began on June 10, 2013, in Sanford. On July 13, 2013, a jury acquitted him of second-degree murder and of manslaughter charges.[14] Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Guest Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Originally Posted By: RLH I hope you never have to defend your life by killing someone, only to be attacked by a bunch of racists afterwards. GZ wasn't defending his life he was making sure that "they don't get away". Were you there? Because that's not what the police said. Or the court, or a jury. The evidence did not show that. But you seem to know. So you were there, right? Why didn't you speak up in court? Your racism is hard to hide. Only God was able to help Peter with that problem. If you pray and ask him, He can help you too. Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted September 22, 2013 Moderators Posted September 22, 2013 Quote: Were you there? Because that's not what the police said. Or the court, or a jury. The evidence did not show that. But you seem to know. 911 tapes, son. Quote: Your racism is hard to hide. Only God was able to help Peter with that problem. If you pray and ask him, He can help you too. Lol, you don't have good argument so you attack me personally. Post something that I said was racist or apologize. Put up or shut up! Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Guest Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Anyone who views everything through the eyes of race is by definition a racist. And I saw that you do that, long before the GZ case came along. So do with that whatever you will. To you, a racist is somebody who uses the "N" word. (Provided they're white) Or anybody who disagrees with Obama's job killing policies, or voted against him. Quote
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted September 22, 2013 Administrators Posted September 22, 2013 It seems you are whining about racism far more than he is... Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
Ted Oplinger Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Quote: Were you there? Because that's not what the police said. Or the court, or a jury. The evidence did not show that. But you seem to know. 911 tapes, son. It was also those same 911 tapes which cleared Zimmerman. One needs to listen to all of what is on those tapes, not just the parts one thinks is a "smoking gun" for what they want to believe about this conflict. Next. Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
Guest Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 It was also those same 911 tapes which cleared Zimmerman. One needs to listen to all of what is on those tapes, not just the parts one thinks is a "smoking gun" for what they want to believe about this conflict. Next. He probably doesn't even realize that the edited version of that call that started this whole race ball of wax rolling was just that. EDITED! To achieve an intended purpose. It doesn't matter that NBC and ABC got busted on it. (NBC did the actual editing) It was too late, the goal had been achieved. And low information voters like Laz, and racists everywhere didn't need to hear anymore. After all, they heard the 911 call with their own ears. Nothing more was needed. And the fact that he's still touting that call even though the full version is out there, proves what I'm saying. Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted September 23, 2013 Moderators Posted September 23, 2013 Anyone who views everything through the eyes of race is by definition a racist. Your definition isn't accurate and doesn't really address the problem with racism. Consider this definition from dictionary.com: 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 2.a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 3.hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. Quote: And I saw that you do that, long before the GZ case came along. Your approach to what I post is nothing new. You seem to think that to even talk about the issue of race in America is being racist. Civil rights leaders 50 tear ago were called race - beaters because they called attention to injustice. Seems like you have the same mindset. Rather than seeking to understand and engage you will simply deploy the the lazy tactic of attacking the messenger. I assume that because you didn't post any quotes that you don't have any that illustrate my racism. Quote: To you, a racist is somebody who uses the "N" word. (Provided they're white). Are you saying that someone who uses the N word is not a racist? Why do you have a problem with black people using the word is it because you feel that white people should be allowed to use it too? You can use it if you like, just not when I'm there. Quote: Or anybody who disagrees with Obama's job killing policies, or voted against him. Again post the quotes. If you can find a post where I said that I will apologize. If you can't find anything will you apologize? Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Moderators lazarus Posted September 23, 2013 Moderators Posted September 23, 2013 Quote: It was also those same 911 tapes which cleared Zimmerman. Sure. The jury clearly believed that GZ was screaming but the tapes were not edited to say "they always get away". GZ said those words and added some emphasis too! GZ had made up his mind about who TM was and what he was doing. A lot of people, including you, may have made the same determination. That's why he has a level of support. GZ made sure this "one" did not get away. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Ted Oplinger Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Quote: It was also those same 911 tapes which cleared Zimmerman. Sure. The jury clearly believed that GZ was screaming but the tapes were not edited to say "they always get away". GZ said those words and added some emphasis too! GZ had made up his mind about who TM was and what he was doing. A lot of people, including you, may have made the same determination. That's why he has a level of support. GZ made sure this "one" did not get away. Ah, such presumption, Laz. Do you know exactly who GZ was referring to with the word, "they" - a rather generic word, mind you? You do know those same 911 tapes declared that GZ had to guess who this stranger in the dark MIGHT be? His own words indicated he did not know for certain the race of the person he was following, yet you (and others) can divine racism to exist in such a point? You can divine racism in his frustration that those perpetrating such break-ins and burglaries - regardless of actual race - always seem to get away before neighbor security or the police arrive on the scene? You need to have your own hot-line, Laz. Such clairvoyance will make you a rich man... Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
Guest Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 If you can find a post where I said that I will apologize. If you can't find anything will you apologize? Maybe I would, if I had time to look through all the posts that you've made in the past four years. But I don't. Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted October 1, 2013 Moderators Posted October 1, 2013 Maybe I would, if I had time to look through all the posts that you've made in the past four years. But I don't. Do yourself a favor. If you want to make that kind of accusation then at least have some material to back it up. It encourages people to take you seriously. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Guest Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 If GZ were not white, you wouldn't be wishing bad things on him and making the comments about him that you are. In fact you wouldn't even be talking about it. To me that shows that it's all about race with you. Hence my true comments about you. Quote
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