bonnie Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 LIFESTYLE Neurologist Richard Saul Says ADHD Does Not Exist BY KYLE SMITH NEW YORK POST NEW YORK POST JANUARY 06, 2014 Does she have ADHD? Not according to one neurologist. Source: Supplied POP quiz: Is the proportion of American children suffering from the disease known as attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder ... a) Less than 5%, as we believed before the early 1990s? More than 11%, and rising, as suggested by CDC statistics? c) Zero? The correct answer is ©, says neurologist Richard Saul in his forthcoming book, ADHD Does Not Exist: The Truth About Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder, which is sure to cause controversy when it hits the shelves in February. After a long career treating patients complaining of such problems as short attention spans and an inability to focus, Saul is convinced ADHD is a collection of symptoms, not a disease, and shouldn't be listed in the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. Treating ADHD as a disease is a huge mistake, according to Saul. Imagine walking into a doctor's office with severe abdominal pains and simply being prescribed painkillers. Then you walk away, pain-free. Later you die of appendicitis. Patients show up at the clinic with their own ADHD diagnoses these days, simply because ADHD is in the air all around us - and because they want to score some delightful drugs like Adderall or Ritalin, or because their parents want an easy way to get them to sit down and shut up. Adderall and Ritalin are stimulants, though, and the more you take them the more you develop a tolerance for them, which can lead to a dangerous addiction spiral. The term attention deficit disorder was made official in 1980, when it appeared in that year's edition of the DSM (the label changed to ADHD seven years later). Subsequent editions have steadily loosened the definition, and diagnoses have skyrocketed accordingly - from 7.8% in 2003 to 9.5% in 2007 to 11% in 2011. That's one in nine children, two-thirds of them boys, who are being slapped with the ADHD label. Two-thirds of these children have been prescribed a stimulant. "ADHD makes a great excuse," Saul notes. "The diagnosis can be an easy-to-reach-for crutch. Moreover, there's an attractive element to an ADHD diagnosis, especially in adults - it can be exciting to think of oneself as involved in many things at once, rather than stuck in a boring rut." In private practice, Saul found himself wondering, what other problems do these patients have besides being easily distracted? One girl he treated, it turned out, was being disruptive in class because she couldn't see the blackboard. Correct diagnosis: myopia. She needed glasses, not drugs. A 36-year-old man who complained about his addiction to online games and guessed he had ADHD, it turned out, was drinking too much coffee and sleeping only four to five hours a night. Correct diagnosis: sleep deprivation. He needed blackout shades, a white-noise machine and a program that shut all his devices off at midnight. A young man who asked, "Can't you just ask me a few questions and write me a prescription?" simply left the office when Saul started probing too deeply into whatever was ailing him. One by one, nearly all of Saul's patients turned out to have some disease other than ADHD, such as Tourette's, OCD, fragile X syndrome (a genetic mutation linked to mental retardation), autism, foetal alcohol syndrome, learning disabilities or such familiar conditions as substance abuse, poor hearing or even giftedness. A boy who was disruptive and inattentive in math class (but no other) was, simply, bored by the material and needed to be advanced a grade to regain his concentration. In a few cases, there was simply no diagnosis. One adult who thought she had ADHD and had been prescribed stimulants by another doctor got a different take from Saul. He advised her to instead return to her habit of exercising regularly and cut back on work hours. "I now realise it wasn't ADHD," she told him later, pleased with the progress she made as a result. "It was just life." The explosion in ADHD diagnoses and related prescriptions of stimulants is not without substantial costs. Potentially addictive drugs are not to be given out like Skittles. "I know of far too many colleagues," Saul writes, "who are willing to write a prescription for a stimulant with only a cursory examination of the patient, such as the 'two-minute checklist,' for ADHD." Two minutes to jot down a prescription may lead to years of consequences: short-term side effects of stimulants include loss of sleep, increased anxiety, irritability and mood problems. Over the long term, use of these drugs can lead to unhealthy weight loss, poor concentration and memory, even reduced life expectancy or self-destructive behaviours not excluding suicide. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
olger Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 VERY INTERESTING !!!! Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
OzarkWoman Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 I totally agree with the article and would go even further and say there is no such thing as ADHD. I have said this before and of course, I get scoured by everyone. I don't care. People need to get their sh** together and stop it with the crutches. Quote
olger Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 I understand, OW. Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Liz Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 My son is diagnosed with ADHD, we chose not to medicate; in fact, we went round and round with the doc about that. Instead, since I was homeschooling him we worked with it, which meant, he would have his English book, History, and Math books all open and he was working out of them all simultaneously. He entered college at 17 and is making all A's. I think there is another member here whose son also is diagnosed with ADHD and they chose medication. I'm not sure how he is doing now, I believe he had other problems too. I do believe it is over diagnosed, but I'm not willing to say that it doesn't exist entirely. phkrause 1 Quote For what will a man be profited, if he gains the whole world, and forfeits his soul? Mat. 16:26Please, support the JDRF and help find a cure for Type 1 Diabetes. Please, support the March of Dimes.
M. T. Cross Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 I know it certainly was over diagnosed in the early 90's in particular, but that does not mean it does not exist. My daughter was diagnosed with it and it turned out that she had Aspergers Syndrome. (or not - maybe she just needs to get her s**t together and not have a crutch) phkrause 1 Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted January 6, 2014 Moderators Posted January 6, 2014 My son is diagnosed with ADHD, we chose not to medicate; in fact, we went round and round with the doc about that. Instead, since I was homeschooling him we worked with it, which meant, he would have his English book, History, and Math books all open and he was working out of them all simultaneously. He entered college at 17 and is making all A's. Interesting. Our middle son was diagnosed with ADD. We chose not to medicate and my wife is homeschooling him with your youngest. We were told in a school report that he does not have an aptitude for music. He's 9 and plays piano. Composes his own songs. He was the drummer for our New Year's eve service last week. We have had so many battles with his school so we decided to school him ourselves. I wouldn't go as far as to say these disorders do not exist but they are certainly over-diagnosed, echoing what MT said. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
CoAspen Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 From the literature we find that it has been overdiagnosed and over medicated. But the tests that are given by competent pediatricians still show this condition. My Gdaughter was diagnosed, and was quite evident in her behaviour. She improved in school and behaviour with meds. However her parents have taken her off the meds and she is doing quite well. During the time she was on the meds everyone worked with her to help her recognize her behaviour and focus more on the task at hand. That seems to have worked out very well and she did not want to stay on the meds either. It was a group effort! She still can lose focus but we continue to work on that. By behaviour I am talking about her lack of focus, constant shifting attention and not being able to stay on subject. She was also more erractic in interactions with others. She was on the meds for a couple of years and the pediatrician had said ahead of time that it was possible she would be able to stop the meds in the future. phkrause 1 Quote
OzarkWoman Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 I know it certainly was over diagnosed in the early 90's in particular, but that does not mean it does not exist. My daughter was diagnosed with it and it turned out that she had Aspergers Syndrome. (or not - maybe she just needs to get her s**t together and not have a crutch) Stop the whining. You, and anyone with a brain knows I didn't mean the kids, but meant the parents. Many parents love to have their kids diagnosed so they can get payments for them and such. You need to get your own sh** together whiner. Quote
M. T. Cross Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Stop the whining. You, and anyone with a brain knows I didn't mean the kids, but meant the parents. Many parents love to have their kids diagnosed so they can get payments for them and such. You need to get your own sh** together whiner. 1. That was eye rolling sarcasm, which is different than whining 2. There was nothing that gave any indication that you meant the parents not the kids. Not one thing 3. You are aware that we are not all from your country, state, county and city right? Not every place has the kind of system in place for such payments. 4. You talk a lot about how people treat you in a judgmental and unkind way. Read the last sentence of your post and think about it the next time you want to talk about how people mistreat you. phkrause 1 Quote
Members phkrause Posted January 6, 2014 Members Posted January 6, 2014 Exactly MT Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators lazarus Posted January 7, 2014 Moderators Posted January 7, 2014 An interesting video raising some questions about ADHD "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
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