I've started filming the police

[phkrause]

I don't even think false memory is the right way to call this. I'd call it, just making up a bunch of garbage. Its a good thing it was captured on video, otherwise we'd have more people blaming police!!

[joeb]

 

Boy, you got that right about online harassment! Some don't write much of anything here except putdowns.

 

Oh! Mechanics? Apparently you aren't aware that many people get ripped off by repairs that were never needed or asked for. I took my car in once and they said I needed my "jets cleaned"! The car was running ok, so I said no. Next time I took my car in at another dealer, I asked how my jets were. The mechanic said they were fine! Dishonesty in the auto repair business is why some ask for all the old parts back.

 

FWIW, I don't think auto mechanics are any more dishonest than any other profession. And yes, dishonesty occurs in the medical profession. One of the reasons when staff sees what appears to be an unnecessary procedure being done, they just wonder if the doc has a Porche payment due!

 

http://www.cartalk.com/content/today-how-handle-dishonest-mechanic

​In every industry in which there are repairs needed there is fraud.  In my 20 years in the HVAC industry fraud was rampant.  I changed employers every time I found it and the employer thought he could push me into participating in it.   There were some employers who got pretty angry about being called on their dishonesty.  They didn't like it at all.   I'd say the dishonesty/honesty  thing is at maybe 50% or lower on the number of honest shops. 

[joeb]

Lyndon,

 

I sense that your car is very important to you. I also get the sense that the people who have lost loved ones to gun violence gang, police or otherwise also feel they are important. Go ahead film your mechanic.

​Yeah, if someone shot my wife, I'd hold them personally responsible, not the gun.  If gangbangers shot one of my grandkids I'd hold the gangbanger responsible, not the gun he used.  The guns aren't responsible for how they are used.  The people who use them are. 

If we would follow scripture about how to deal with killings we would be much better off.   If a behavior is not punished every time it occurs the problem behavior becomes even more strongly entrenched.   Psychologists and psychiatrists have proven this over and over again. 

[Anthony!]

I don't even think false memory is the right way to call this. I'd call it, just making up a bunch of garbage. Its a good thing it was captured on video, otherwise we'd have more people blaming police!!

​The empirical evidence and psychology regarding witness false memory reveals there is very little that is malicious in nature, or lying. It is actually an honest perception, even though incorrect factually.

[LifeHiscost]

 

 

 

See...it's kind of relevant and I didn't even try!

​It has more to do with depending on God's promises than your trying really hard. One thing that is really bound to fail is returning tit for tat until you get even.

1Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan^a standing at his right side to accuse him. 2The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?”

3Now Joshua was dressed in filthy clothes as he stood before the angel. 4The angel said to those who were standing before him, “Take off his filthy clothes.”

Then he said to Joshua, “See, I have taken away your sin, and I will put fine garments on you.”.....Zechariah 3

…10"For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, And do not return there without watering the earth And making it bear and sprout, And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater; 11So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.....Isaiah 55

God is Love!   Jesus saves! 

[LifeHiscost]

I seriously dislike weighing in on this topic, however in the interest of offering  personal observation and experience.  I was associated with a police department for a number of years.  Our department used cameras (they are not a new thing) we had them mounted on our vehicles and our officers wore tie-tack cameras.  There is a vast difference in what you see if you watch the video from the moment the call comes in until the conclusion then what you perceive when  you  come in during contact/arrest/foot or car chase. 

This is not in defense of all officers, however if your child gets in your face and wont stop think how difficult it is to keep your cool and be the adult.  Now think about the adrenalin flowing during a chase, or a potential gun or knife incident.  The thing that I have noticed is that respect for authority appears to have gone by the wayside.  Sometimes we just have to not push the envelop, take care of our families and homes and not put ourselves in a position to be in a situation which can bring us possible conflict.  Just sayin'

​

God is Love!  Jesus saves! 

[D_Bishop]

I am afraid to record the police.  They can and will take your phone or camera and slam it and break it.  Then the will arrest you, maybe even beat you down, and get away with it.  There is a recent recording that's gone viral that shows just such a scenario.  

Even if you record their activities they will still be exonerated.  The recording may or may not cause a uproar, but the final results will be the same.

[phkrause]

​The empirical evidence and psychology regarding witness false memory reveals there is very little that is malicious in nature, or lying. It is actually an honest perception, even though incorrect factually.

​Don't totally buy that. I can see if the incident had been days ago, even hours, but they pretty much made there statements within an hour or less.

[Sojourner]

https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/10153260255536336/

[Anthony!]

​Don't totally buy that. I can see if the incident had been days ago, even hours, but they pretty much made there statements within an hour or less.

​And why is that? The empirical evidence has met the scientific method and stands on its own... for decades now. If you 'don't totally buy that' please cite research which criticizes this evidence. Also, why don't you believe this article when the video evidence of what actually happened proved these witnesses in their mistake?

[B/W Photodude]

I have viewed the video discussed and one person had a possible reason to think the victim was running away from a police officer. Unfortunately, in the excitment, the witness missed the fact that the suspect was also running towards another police officer with apparent intent to attack the officer. The officer responsible for the shooting apparently saved the other officer from injury and/or death. 

As far as the other witness, memory has been demonstrated many times to be very malleable and extremely subject to error. Many examples can be demonstrated if this. You only need to follow the number of men exonerated of rape charges where they were convicted by eyewitness identification. This is especially, for some reason, often in black men / white women cases.

Another common false memory is the number of people who believed they were watching television when the second tower was hit on 9/11. So many have watched the reruns so many times that they think they actually saw it happen. I do not really know whether I saw it "live" or if it was memorex!

Some researchers will tell you that implanted false memories are more difficult to 'erase" than memories that were in error.

[lazarus]

What if there was no video of Laquan McDonald's  execution?

[lazarus]

The Chicago Reporter writes;

Without that whistleblower—and without that video—it’s highly unlikely that Chicago Police officer Jason Van Dyke would be facing first-degree murder charges today.

The whole system is corrupt across the United States. The 7 other officers on the scene covered up this execution. The mayor and the States Attorney are complicit. 

 

[Aliensanctuary]

If the kid had been smarter, he would have dropped the knife and raised his hands over his head in submission. 

The video doesn't show us what happened before the kid started walking down the road. Did he threaten a police officer or someone else? Was he a suspect in a crime and was resisting arrest? 

If not, then the cop will likely be in deep, deep trouble for emptying his gun into a man he shouldn't have killed.

 

[lazarus]

THERE’S been a cover-up in Chicago. The city’s leaders have now brought charges against a police officer, Jason Van Dyke, for the first-degree murder of 17-year-old Laquan McDonald. But for more than a year, Chicago officials delayed the criminal process, and might well have postponed prosecution indefinitely, had it not been for a state court forcing their hand.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/30/opinion/cover-up-in-chicago.html?_r=0

[D_Bishop]

I just watched the video for the first time.  He was walking away.  He was not running.  His life was cheap, so they shot him 16 times.  This is nothing new. There is very little justice on this earth.  I am for sure not looking for it on this message board.