Liberal Heads Exploding in Colorado as BBQ Restaurant Holds ‘White Appreciation Day’. LOL

[bonnie]

Because handymen are overpaid. Can't tell you the savings we have because my mother and grandmother and I do many of our own construction and repairs. 

What do you base that statement on? Prior to our move to our present home I used the same handymen for many years. Their promptness,attention to detail and the professional job was well worth what they charged.

It has been difficult to locate those that I can place the same amount of confidence in. Obviously you can can save a great deal of money by doing repairs yourself. That really doesn't determine the value of the expertise,time and materials of those that make their living  doing repair work.

My husband had a client that decided he was not worth the 4,000.00 it would cost him to paint his home. After he obtained the information of what was needed in amount of supplies,he terminated my husband to save all that money. Didn't take to long and he was back on the phone falling all over himself to apologize and beg my husband to finish the job.

Even with the ability and knowledge to complete a repair,many decide that it is more beneficial to hire the work done while they spend their time doing what they are most qualified to do.

I have customers that think at first my price is to high as they are able to sew themselves.  Most show back up in my e-mail asking me to purchase what they are able to do themselves. Not worth their time when it could be spent doing what they do best

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I base it on recent repairs made to a rental home we manage. 

[bonnie]

I base it on recent repairs made to a rental home we manage. 

Repairs that you were able to do yourself. Or did you hire it done and decide it was to high?   I helped a friend of mine tear out three rooms of carpeting and  lay laminated hardwood. The floor installer that gave my friend a bid was reasonable but way over priced as to the cost of the two of us doing it.  Does that mean he was way over priced or that my friend and I were willing to put in three days of hard work and save the cash out

Businesses that are way over priced don't stay in business to long

 

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It is my opinion that MOST professions and skilled laborers are overpaid. An honest day's effort should merit an honest day's wage. I believe a physician should take home the same pay as a seamstress, a plumber the same pay as an actuary, and a professor the same pay as a life guard--provided that each person is working at the peak of their God-given abilities.

In answer to your question about the repairs, it was work that we did not have the time to undertake ourselves. We're under a bit of a time crunch.

[bonnie]

It is my opinion that MOST professions and skilled laborers are overpaid. An honest day's effort should merit an honest day's wage. I believe a physician should take home the same pay as a seamstress, a plumber the same pay as an actuary, and a professor the same pay as a life guard--provided that each person is working at the peak of their God-given abilities.

In answer to your question about the repairs, it was work that we did not have the time to undertake ourselves. We're under a bit of a time crunch.

 

What do you consider a honest days pay?

We recently had some very anxious days over my g. grandson. His surgery was common but requires a skill that I as a seamstress do not have. I have not dedicated years to learning how to give innocent little babies a chance to lead a normal life. I do not have to pay the enormous malpractice insurance,nor have I invested many thousands of dollars in education. At the wage of a seamstress the plastic surgeon could not even begin to pay for his education. When baby Jace coded our whole family is more grateful than we can say for  the number of qualified,educated,dedicated medical professionals that took over and brought him back to us.

My SIL,a year younger than I am recently had a very unexpected heart attack. Thank God for those over paid dedicated professionals that saved her life and corrected a problem she didn't know she had.

 

 

 

Edited August 5, 2015 by bonnie

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

It is my opinion that MOST professions and skilled laborers are overpaid. An honest day's effort should merit an honest day's wage. I believe a physician should take home the same pay as a seamstress, a plumber the same pay as an actuary, and a professor the same pay as a life guard--provided that each person is working at the peak of their God-given abilities.

it seems that would only be realistic if the amount of training (in years) was the same, and that the cost of the training was equal... 

To take the idea even further, what would be the point of having wages at all, or having to pay for anything?  If everyone and their work was equal due to everyone working "at the peak of their God-given abilities," what incentive would there be to quality or excellence of work?  Further, people would naturally want to partake of the work of the best.  Those doing the best work would be in constant demand, and those *doing* their best, (but their "best" was not quality work), would not be in demand, yet they would be getting the same pay. 

Just mulling that over in my mind....

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it seems that would only be realistic if the amount of training (in years) was the same, and that the cost of the training was equal... 

To take the idea even further, what would be the point of having wages at all, or having to pay for anything?  If everyone and their work was equal due to everyone working "at the peak of their God-given abilities," what incentive would there be to quality or excellence of work?  Further, people would naturally want to partake of the work of the best.  Those doing the best work would be in constant demand, and those *doing* their best, (but their "best" was not quality work), would not be in demand, yet they would be getting the same pay. 

Just mulling that over in my mind....

It's not realistic, but it is ideal. We wouldn't need to be paid, or have to pay for anything if everyone were working at the peak of their God-given abilities. The incentive of course would be to honor God with all we've been given, to serve our fellow man and to always do excellent work--treating everyone as we'd like to be treated.

[Outta Here]

My definition of an honest day's pay is the pay for doing one's best at the peak of one's God-given ability. 

[Outta Here]

LOL

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The over paid argument is a used quite a bit, usually by those who don't want to pay for something they have to have. Reality is, contractors charge by what the market will allow for. If they charge excessively over the market, they don't work. Obviously, someone is paying them what they ask. If someone can do it themselves and not have to pay, good for you. Unfortunately, too many times the pros have to go out and rescue those to cheap to pay the going rate, screwed it all up, and ended up with a charge greater than what they would have paid to begin with. 

I, several years ago, totally re-did my house while getting it ready for sale. Yeah, I did most of my own work, and used some good learning I had picked up along the way,  ... BUT ... I considered my greatest talent is knowing what NOT to touch myself! Also, sometimes when you hire someone, they can do the same job in a fraction of the time. While I made nearly the same as what some of them would have charged on an hourly rate, it came down do it myself for a longer period of time or go to work for some overtime and pay someone to do it.

People especially like to stiff doctors and other health professionals for their labor, after all isn't someone else supposed to be responsible for their healthcare anyway? Here is a conversation I heard once. A woman was talking to her doctor about how expensive her medicine was.

Woman: The medicine is really expensive.

Doctor: Then don't take it.

Woman: But I want to get well.

Doctor: Then take the medicine.

Woman: But the medicine is expensive.

And you now have a circular discussion going on!

[bonnie]

Unfortunately, too many times the pros have to go out and rescue those to cheap to pay the going rate, screwed it all up, and ended up with a charge greater than what they would have paid to begin with. 

 

Can't tell you how many times over the years this happened to my husband. The mess that was made because the "homeowner knew how to paint(meaning he had painted his mother's kitchen)was almost laughable

 

[bonnie]

This worked well

 

 

Remember CEO Who Set Minimum Wage to $70,000? THIS is What Happened NEXT!

04Aug, 2015by Greg Campbell

 

Wealth cannot be created simply by giving-out more money. In this day and age where socialists crusade for a whopping $15 an hour minimum wage, it’s unsurprising to see that some in the private sector simply don’t “get” economics. When one CEO raised his minimum salary for employees to $70K a year, he was hailed as a socialist hero. One year later, however, he’s hit the skids and his employees must now worry about future employment.

 

 

For the past few months the CEO of Gravity Payments – Dan Price – has become famous across the world because he promised to pay ALL his employees $70,000 annually.

That means they earn $70,000 if they are executives or if they are hourly, beginner jobs. No matter how hard his employees work or produce, everyone earns $70,000 each calendar year.

Now, as you might have guessed, Price is having a difficult time! In fact, with such a low income placed on himself and his business falling apart, he has been forced to sell his house. And employees are leaving the company in massive numbers. Long-time employees are furious at the lack of raises or incentives to continue being valuable to the company.

Clearly, liberals don’t understand economics. This tiny experiment in socialism couldn’t even support itself through the summer! What a train wreck:

Dan Price, 31, tells The New York Times that things have gotten so bad he’s been forced to rent out his house.

“I’m working as hard as I ever worked to make it work,” he told The Times in a video that shows him sitting on a plastic bucket in the garage of his house. “I’m renting out my house right now to try and make ends meet myself.”

The Times article said Price’s decision ended up costing him a few customers and two of his “most valued” employees, who quit after newer employees ended up with bigger salary hikes than older ones.

Grant Moran, 29, also quit, saying the new pay-scale was disconcerting

“Now the people who were just clocking in and out were making the same as me,” he told the paper. “It shackles high performers to less motivated team members.”

The Times said customers who left were dismayed at what Price did, viewing it as a political statement. Others left fearful Gravity would soon hike fees to pay for salary increases.

Brian Canlis, co-owner of a family restaurant, already worried about how to deal with Seattle’s new minimum wage, told Price the pay raise at Gravity “makes it harder for the rest of us.”

Even one of the biggest supporters of the plan quit after it was implemented:

When Dan Price, founder and CEO of the Seattle-based credit-card-payment processing firm Gravity Payments, announced he was raising the company’s minimum salary to $70,000 a year, he was met with overwhelming enthusiasm.

“Everyone start[ed] screaming and cheering and just going crazy,” Price told Business Insider shortly after he broke the news in April.

But in the weeks since then, it’s become clear that not everyone is equally pleased. Among the critics? Some of Price’s own employees.

Maisey McMaster — once a big supporter of the plan — is one of the employees that quit. McMaster, 26, joined the company five years ago, eventually working her way up to financial manager. She put in long hours that “left little time for her husband and extended family,” The Times says, but she loved the “special culture” of the place.

But while she was initially on board, helping to calculate whether the company could afford to raise salaries so drastically (the plan is a minimum of $70,000 over the course of three years), McMaster later began to have doubts.

“He gave raises to people who have the least skills and are the least equipped to do the job, and the ones who were taking on the most didn’t get much of a bump,” she told The Times. A fairer plan, she told the paper, would give newer employees smaller increases, along with the chance to earn a more substantial raise with more experience.

This highlights the problem with socialism. It dis-incentivizes the acquisition of skills, higher education and innovation when the janitor and the web designer make the same amount of money in a company.

Sadly, we are currently saddled with a president who maintains this warped sense of “fairness” and we risk being saddled with another one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 5, 2015 by bonnie

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

I read about that a few days ago.  Not surprising..

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I read a similar "experiment" done in the classroom. The instructor announced that from then on, everyone would get the average grade of the class and it started out as a "C". The non-acheivers were thrilled because they no longer had to work because they would get the average. But the achievers, feeling cheated for all their hard work, gradually stopped producing. Ad they stopped producing, the average grade gradually declined until everyone was failing!

Some people just don't get it that you can not make things "fair or equal" for everyone!

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Oh, I "get it" all right. I just don't think it's right--not the plan God had in mind. Our drive to achieve and succeed should be to honor God and serve man with the very best of our God-given talents and abilities. It should not be based on pay, or on what the guy in the cubicle next to us is doing. People going their own way, when in accordance with God's plans, will achieve and succeed regardless of pay. 

A man I once knew, who has now passed away, often told his children: Be the very best you can be. Period. Want to be a janitor? Then be the best janitor you can be! Want to be a doctor? Be the best doctor you can be. Whatever it is you want to be, be the best you can be.

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Matthew 20 (NASB)

Laborers in the Vineyard

      1“For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. 2“When he had agreed with the laborers for a denarius for the day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3“And he went out about the third hour and saw others standing idle in the market place; 4and to those he said, ‘You also go into the vineyard, and whatever is right I will give you.’ And so they went. 5“Again he went out about the sixth and the ninth hour, and did the same thing.6“And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing around; and he said to them, ‘Why have you been standing here idle all day long?’ 7“They said to him, ‘Because no one hired us.’ He said to them, ‘You go into the vineyard too.’

      8“When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the laborers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last group to the first.’9“When those hired about the eleventh hour came, each one received a denarius. 10“When those hired first came, they thought that they would receive more; but each of them also received a denarius. 11“When they received it, they grumbled at the landowner, 12saying, ‘These last men have worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden and the scorching heat of the day.’ 13“But he answered and said to one of them, ‘Friend, I am doing you no wrong; did you not agree with me for a denarius? 14‘Take what is yours and go, but I wish to give to this last man the same as to you. 15‘Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with what is my own? Or is your eye envious because I am generous?’ 16“So the last shall be first, and the first last.”

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Matthew 25 (NASB)

Parable of the Talents

      14“For it is just like a man about to go on a journey, who called his own slaves and entrusted his possessions to them. 15“To one he gave five talents, to another, two, and to another, one, each according to his own ability; and he went on his journey. 16“Immediately the one who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and gained five more talents. 17“In the same manner the one who had received the two talents gained two more. 18“But he who received the one talentwent away, and dug a hole in the ground and hid his master’s money.

      19“Now after a long time the master of those slaves came and settled accounts with them. 20“The one who had received the five talents came up and brought five more talents, saying, ‘Master, you entrusted five talents to me. See, I have gained five more talents.’ 21“His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave. You were faithful with a few things, I will put you in charge of many things; enter into the joy of your master.’

      22“Also the one who had received the two talents came up and said, ‘Master, you entrusted two talents to me. See, I have gained two more talents.’ 23“His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave. You were faithful with a few things, I will put you in charge of many things; enter into the joy of your master.’

      24“And the one also who had received the one talent came up and said, ‘Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you scattered no seed. 25‘And I was afraid, and went away and hid your talent in the ground. See, you have what is yours.’

      26“But his master answered and said to him, ‘You wicked, lazy slave, you knew that I reap where I did not sow and gather where I scattered no seed. 27‘Then you ought to have put my money in the bank, and on my arrival I would have received my money back with interest. 28‘Therefore take away the talent from him, and give it to the one who has the ten talents.’

      29“For to everyone who has, more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. 30“Throw out the worthless slave into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.