Martn Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 25 minutes ago, 8thdaypriest said: My NT just says "You created all things." It does not say all things everywhere. 2 Samuel 24:1-- The LORD moved David to number Israel. 1 Chronicles 21:1-- SATAN moved David to number Israel.
hch Posted July 14, 2016 Author Posted July 14, 2016 1 hour ago, 8thdaypriest said: 1 hour ago, 8thdaypriest said: I disagree hch. Which is OK. I'm giving my opinion (based in Scripture), and you are giving us your opinion. You can quote EGW - sure, but that will just tell us that your opinion agrees with her. Your post tells me that you believe "the hour of His judgment" began on October 22nd, 1844. I understand that belief - very well. I just do not share it - for many reasons. I disagree hch. Which is OK. I'm giving my opinion (based in Scripture), and you are giving us your opinion. You can quote EGW - sure, but that will just tell us that your opinion agrees with her. Your post tells me that you believe "the hour of His judgment" began on October 22nd, 1844. I understand that belief - very well. I just do not share it - for many reasons. Your post tells me that you believe "the hour of His judgment" began on October 22nd, 1844. I understand that belief - very well. I just do not share it - for many reasons. Ok Rachel, It is time for a facts check: Do I believe that EG White has the gift of prophecy? YES Do I study EG White in place of the Bible? NO Do I study the Bible? YES Do I study the Bible first and then compare it to WG White? YES Quote From Rachel: I'm giving my opinion (based in Scripture), and you are giving us your opinion. You can quote EGW - sure, but that will just tell us that your opinion agrees with her. False. EG White agrees with what I have found in the Bible. Quote From Rachel: Your post tells me that you believe "the hour of His judgment" began on October 22nd, 1844. I understand that belief - very well. I just do not share it - for many reasons. Actually, I am saying much more than that of which you probably have not had the opportunity to scratch the surface. My post: Quote His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
JoeMo Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 15 hours ago, 8thdaypriest said: No part of the original Israel was still "married" to her LORD. This situation necessitated a NEW (marriage) COVENANT - with Israel. That being said, the original covenant between God and Abraham (and selected offspring - Isaac and not Ishmael, Jacob and not Esau) was unconditional. God basically swore on His own life that the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would receive the land. We as Gentile believers my be grafted in; but we are still dependent upon the root (Christ and Israel. Christians have not replaced the Jews as God's Chosen People. God has simply given us the privilege of joining them. “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. " (John 4:21-23) 8thdaypriest and Martn 2
8thdaypriest Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 21 hours ago, Martn said: "Baal" is also a Hebrew word, not just a pagan word, for God. "You will no longer call ME Baali" is what the text says. The word, in this instance, is therefore in reference to our God. I don't believe that Baal, was ever a name for Yahweh. 8thdaypriest
hch Posted July 15, 2016 Author Posted July 15, 2016 On 7/13/2016 at 5:53 PM, hch said: Rachel, The three angels' messages first appear in Daniel (4, 5, & 6) They repeat in Revelation 14. And they repeat again in Revelation 18. After those thing that were prophesied in Revelation 18 had taken place, the Scripture is fulfilled: "the hour of His judgment is come." The fulfillment of Bible prophecy contradicts your conclusion "That "hour" has NOT YET ARRIVED" because though "John did not "hear" a year or date," the events are so clearly presented, that the time of the fulfillment of Revelation 18 is confirmed by recent history. Hi Rachel, I don't know why this site locks up but sometimes when I am replying to a post it just does not let me type any more. So here is the follow up that I attempted to give earlier when you said that you believed that you stayed true to the Scriptures. It is the Scriptures that say "break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquility...The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar" (Daniel 4:27 & 33) Thus the Hour of King Nebuchadnezzar's judgment came upon King Nebuchadnezzar (the first angel's Judgment Hour message) It is the Scriptures that say " God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians... In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain" (Daniel 4:26-28 & 30) Thus Babylon was fallen (the second angel's fall of Babylon message) It is the Scriptures that say "make a firm decree, that whosoever shall ask a petition of any God or man for thirty days, save of thee, O king, he shall be cast into the den of lions" (Daniel 6:7). Thus Darius was implementing the Mark of the Beast: a command wo worship a man rather than God (the third angel's message) That is Bible. And if you find it in the writings of Ellen White, Praise the Lord (she agrees with the Bible). But I found it through Bible study. That portion of my reply was based on Bible study and you do yourself spiritual harm to brush Bible study off as being from the pen of EG White or anyone else when it is truly the word of God. To downplay Scripture makes it of less value: that is like having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof. Christian regards His child His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
hch Posted July 15, 2016 Author Posted July 15, 2016 On 7/13/2016 at 7:23 PM, Buzzards said: Is this angel speaking of the Judgment Hour of the dead, living, or dispensing of God's Judgment? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John speaks not of those in the Grave; but those Dead in trespasses and sins in Matthew he says Matt.13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. This is an SDA Board; you know that " a furnace of fire" is not hell, it's God letting them reap the reward of what they have chosen there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. that is "Hell on Earth" Posters ye shall be hungry, but my people shall eat, etc, etc, etc Rev. 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. Buzzards, you say, "John speaks not of those in the Grave; but those Dead in trespasses and sins" which may be true, but we must also remember that John wrote the book of Revelation. "the Revelation of Jesus Christ" "unto the seven churches" and one of those churches in particular was dead. "And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead... I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee" (Revelation 3:1 & 3). Knowing that the judgment focuses on the church in Sardis puts the three angels' messages in context. When did the Sardis church period begin? Did it end at a specific time or did it overlap other church periods? Jesus was in the midst of the seven candlesticks: they were all there at the same time but He sent messages to them individually. Food for thought His child His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
Martn Posted July 17, 2016 Posted July 17, 2016 On 7/14/2016 at 4:01 PM, 8thdaypriest said: I don't believe that Baal, was ever a name for Yahweh. God's name is IAUA. (At least those are the letters used to represent God's name) I did not say Baal was a name for God. I said it is a word which means God: Isaiah 54:5 Jeremiah 31:32 In such passages as these, even God calls God by the Hebrew word Baal (translated "husband" though actually a word meaning "god"). The shorter form of the same word, El, is of course the more common term for God, in both Hebrew and pagan languages. 2 Samuel 24:1-- The LORD moved David to number Israel. 1 Chronicles 21:1-- SATAN moved David to number Israel.
LifeHiscost Posted July 17, 2016 Posted July 17, 2016 13But Moses protested, “If I go to the people of Israel and tell them, ‘The God of your ancestors has sent me to you,’ they will ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what should I tell them?” 14God replied to Moses, “I Am Who I Am.d Say this to the people of Israel: I Am has sent me to you.” 15God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: Yahweh,e the God of your ancestors—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you. This is my eternal name, my name to remember for all generations. 16“Now go and call together all the elders of Israel. Tell them, ‘The Lord, the God of your ancestors—the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob—has appeared to me.....Exodus 3 God is Love!~Jesus saves! Lift Jesus up!!
8thdaypriest Posted July 17, 2016 Posted July 17, 2016 On 7/13/2016 at 6:31 PM, Martn said: It does not say all things everywhere. Martn. Do you believe there are other "realms" or dimensions with life that our God Yahweh did NOT create? That's actually a very Mormon idea. 8thdaypriest
hch Posted July 18, 2016 Author Posted July 18, 2016 6 hours ago, Martn said: God's name is IAUA. (At least those are the letters used to represent God's name) I did not say Baal was a name for God. I said it is a word which means God: Isaiah 54:5 Jeremiah 31:32 In such passages as these, even God calls God by the Hebrew word Baal (translated "husband" though actually a word meaning "god"). The shorter form of the same word, El, is of course the more common term for God, in both Hebrew and pagan languages. Martin, Ok. This is interesting. So how are you linking this to the Three Angels' Messages being dead or alive? Christian Regards, His Child phkrause 1 His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
hch Posted July 18, 2016 Author Posted July 18, 2016 12 hours ago, 8thdaypriest said: Martn. Do you believe there are other "realms" or dimensions with life that our God Yahweh did NOT create? That's actually a very Mormon idea. And I ask you the same question Rachel, How are you linking this to the Three Angels' Messages being dead or alive? Christian Regards, His child His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
8thdaypriest Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 2 hours ago, hch said: And I ask you the same question Rachel, How are you linking this to the Three Angels' Messages being dead or alive? Christian Regards, His child The angel cried, "Give glory to HIM." We are discussing who "HIM" is. Martn and JoeMo 2 8thdaypriest
hch Posted July 18, 2016 Author Posted July 18, 2016 4 hours ago, 8thdaypriest said: The angel cried, "Give glory to HIM." We are discussing who "HIM" is. God defines Himself in the First Angel's message: "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come: and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters" (Revelation 14:7). It is no coincidence that when Adventists were proclaiming that God is the Creator and Christ is coming in 1844, that the devil proclaimed the false doctrine -- evolution in 1844 through the origin of species by Darwin. Christian regards His child Martn 1 His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
hch Posted July 18, 2016 Author Posted July 18, 2016 On 4/23/2016 at 11:59 AM, Robert said: The work which the church has failed to do in a time of peace and prosperity she will have to do in a terrible crisis under most discouraging, forbidding circumstances. The warnings that worldly conformity has silenced or withheld must be given under the fiercest opposition from enemies of the faith. And at that time the superficial, conservative class, whose influence has steadily retarded the progress of the work, will renounce the faith and take their stand with its avowed enemies, toward whom their sympathies have long been tending. These apostates will then manifest the most bitter enmity, doing all in their power to oppress and malign their former brethren and to excite indignation against them. This day is just before us. [TESTIMONIES FOR THE CHURCH, VOL. 5, PAGE 463] What is the work of the church? Is it not to present the three angel's message? So when is the time for the 3rd Angel's Message to sound? Will it sound when President Obama is still in office or after he leaves? Will the proclamation of the 3rd angel's message take us by supprise, or will we be among those sounding it? Christian regards, His child His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
8thdaypriest Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 7 hours ago, hch said: God defines Himself in the First Angel's message: "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come: and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters" (Revelation 14:7). It is no coincidence that when Adventists were proclaiming that God is the Creator and Christ is coming in 1844, that the devil proclaimed the false doctrine -- evolution in 1844 through the origin of species by Darwin. Christian regards His child In 1844 the Adventists were teaching that "God" is God our Father. HE is the ONE to whom we give the ultimate "glory". The living creatures give glory to "Him who sits on the throne". They say, "You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, and by Your will they exist and were created." God's Son was the agent of the Father, carrying out the will and plan of His Father. Hebrews 1:1-2 "God . . . has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;" 8thdaypriest
8thdaypriest Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 The first angel has "the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth", but what he says (loudly) is "the hour of His judgment has come". Why is it "good news" that "the hour of His judgment has come" ?? I believe it is because dominion is just about to be taken from Satan (and his evil Little Horn dictator demi-god). Satan is about to be removed! 8thdaypriest
8thdaypriest Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Babylon is the harlot, who rides the Beast. When the harlot breathes life into the Image of the Beast, THAT is fornicating (assuming the harlot was the LORD's wife). When she pressures all people everywhere to serve the Beast - THAT will be giving the "wine of her fornication" to "all the nations" to make them drunk. Yes - I believe the two-horned beast "from the earth" (meaning from "the land") is the "harlot" Babylon. There is no point in giving the third message - threatening wrath for worshiping the Beast and his image - UNTIL there actually IS a Beast and his Image. Or at least until there is ABOUT TO BE. I personally don't believe THAT has happened yet. In Daniel Cpt 7, the "Little Horn" (on the Beast) persecutes the saints right up UNTIL the "time comes for the saints to possess the kingdom". Same thing happens in Revelation, except the Image of the Beast does the persecuting. The two witnesses are killed just 3 and a half days before they are resurrected at the Voice of God, and ascend to Heaven. The Image of the Beast IS the Little Horn. This is a very LAST DAYS entity - NOT something that happened 3 and a half centuries ago! This message will be given by the "two witnesses" for 1260 days/ 42 months - leading up to the Second Coming. 8thdaypriest
LifeHiscost Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 3 hours ago, 8thdaypriest said: Babylon is the harlot, who rides the Beast. When the harlot breathes life into the Image of the Beast, THAT is fornicating (assuming the harlot was the LORD's wife). When she pressures all people everywhere to serve the Beast - THAT will be giving the "wine of her fornication" to "all the nations" to make them drunk. Yes - I believe the two-horned beast "from the earth" (meaning from "the land") is the "harlot" Babylon. There is no point in giving the third message - threatening wrath for worshiping the Beast and his image - UNTIL there actually IS a Beast and his Image. Or at least until there is ABOUT TO BE. I personally don't believe THAT has happened yet. In Daniel Cpt 7, the "Little Horn" (on the Beast) persecutes the saints right up UNTIL the "time comes for the saints to possess the kingdom". Same thing happens in Revelation, except the Image of the Beast does the persecuting. The two witnesses are killed just 3 and a half days before they are resurrected at the Voice of God, and ascend to Heaven. The Image of the Beast IS the Little Horn. This is a very LAST DAYS entity - NOT something that happened 3 and a half centuries ago! This message will be given by the "two witnesses" for 1260 days/ 42 months - leading up to the Second Coming. 8thdaypriest, have you ever listened to the prophetic explanations of the 3 angels' messages and the 42 months as well as the beast that had two horns as a lamb and spoke like a dragon? After asking for the guidance of the Holy Spirit, I would encourage you to google Pastor Doug Batchelor and listen to some of his sermons on the Revelation and the end days. You might be somewhat surprised at his findings. Since at one time he was a searcher while an Atheist, having written a book entitled "the Richest Caveman" as well as being a world wide evangelist I'm sure a person with your integrity would be greatly blest. God is Love!~Jesus saves! Lift Jesus up!!
Buzzards Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 1 hour ago, LifeHiscost said: 8thdaypriest, have you ever listened to the prophetic explanations of the 3 angels' messages and the 42 months as well as the beast that had two horns as a lamb and spoke like a dragon? After asking for the guidance of the Holy Spirit, I would encourage you to google Pastor Doug Batchelor and listen to ............................................ God is Love!~Jesus saves! OH; Boy; Pastor Doug Batchelor Lev.11:1And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying,These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth. 3 Whatsoever among the beasts, that shall ye eat. #1: parteth the hoof, #2: and is clovenfooted, #3: and cheweth the cud, 4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. 5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. 6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. 7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
Buzzards Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 5 hours ago, 8thdaypriest said: Babylon is the harlot, who rides the Beast. In Daniel Cpt 7, the "Little Horn" (on the Beast) persecutes the saints right up UNTIL the "time comes for the saints to possess the kingdom". The little horn ceases to be a persecuting power, its gone, destroyed, given to the burning flame Daniel 7:11I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. How long ????? prolonged for a season and time. Paul says; 1THes. 5:1 1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. Why will that Day come upon them as a Thief in the Night ???? For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. Why will they be saying --"""Peace and safety; Peace and safety"""" ??? ie: the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. and he warns us, not to get to happy about it, for now comes another Beast Is.14:28In the year that king Ahaz died was this burden. 29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent. Now back too the words of Paul 1THes. 5:4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; Posters; I can't quote the last 1/2 of Matt Ch.24, this post would just get toooooo Looooonnnnnggggggg; some things you will just have to read for yourself
8thdaypriest Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 14 hours ago, LifeHiscost said: 8thdaypriest, have you ever listened to the prophetic explanations of the 3 angels' messages and the 42 months as well as the beast that had two horns as a lamb and spoke like a dragon? After asking for the guidance of the Holy Spirit, I would encourage you to google Pastor Doug Batchelor and listen to some of his sermons on the Revelation and the end days. You might be somewhat surprised at his findings. Since at one time he was a searcher while an Atheist, having written a book entitled "the Richest Caveman" as well as being a world wide evangelist I'm sure a person with your integrity would be greatly blest. God is Love!~Jesus saves! LHC, Thank you for thinking of me. I was raised SDA by my mother, and studied the SDA interpretation of prophecy at PUC. I graduated from Loma Linda back in 1979. I have listened to Doug Batchelor's talks on prophecy. So I'm very familiar. I just don't agree with the SDA interpretation of prophecy any longer - especially 1844, and SDA belief concerning "the rest of the dead". I don't have all the answers by any means, but my understanding is growing. If you read Daniel 7:21-22, it's pretty clear that the Little Horn will persecute the people of God for 1260 days, which END at the Second Coming. The same scenario is repeated in Revelation with the two witnesses. They are killed and then are raised to life by the Voice of God, and ascend to Heaven. That's the Second Coming. JoeMo 1 8thdaypriest
LifeHiscost Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 1 hour ago, 8thdaypriest said: If you read Daniel 7:21-22, it's pretty clear that the Little Horn will persecute the people of God for 1260 days, which END at the Second Coming. The same scenario is repeated in Revelation with the two witnesses. They are killed and then are raised to life by the Voice of God, and ascend to Heaven. That's the Second Coming. While I don't necessarily consider numbers of themselves always to be an accurate indicator to the Truth, however considering the worlds' population, wouldn't you feel 20,000,000 adherents (and growing worldwide by bounds every day) subscribing to a last day messenger of God, completely logical for a Father Who will leave no stone unturned to save those He loves. One thing I can be sure of, 1Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. 2For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. 3While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. 4But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief; 5for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; 6so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober. 7For those who sleep do their sleeping at night, and those who get drunk get drunk at night. 8But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. 9For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him. 11Therefore encourage one another and build up one another, just as you also are doing..... 1 Thessalonians 5 Anyway, keep looking up. No one will miss that day who loves Jesus. 5But if anyone keeps His word, the love of God has been truly perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him: ....1 John 2 God is Love!~Jesus saves! Lift Jesus up!!
8thdaypriest Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 I just finished a study titled "The Little Horn". Here's the link: http://www.prophecyviewpoint.com/htdocs/The Little Horn.pdf 8thdaypriest
hch Posted July 24, 2016 Author Posted July 24, 2016 On 7/18/2016 at 10:41 PM, 8thdaypriest said: Babylon is the harlot, who rides the Beast. When the harlot breathes life into the Image of the Beast, THAT is fornicating (assuming the harlot was the LORD's wife). When she pressures all people everywhere to serve the Beast - THAT will be giving the "wine of her fornication" to "all the nations" to make them drunk. Yes - I believe the two-horned beast "from the earth" (meaning from "the land") is the "harlot" Babylon. Hi Rachel, Thanks for sharing what you believe but what does the Bible say? Where are you coming from breathing "life into the Image of the Beast" -- where is the Bible reference? "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" (Revelation 17:5) The harlot is mentioned in Rev 17. I agree that the harlot is apostate protestants. She is riding the beast, which is the papacy. And the harlot has the beast's name "Babylon" on her forehead. The harlot has the beast's authority stamped on her forehead "mother of harlots." The harlot has the beast's territory or jurisdiction stamped on her forehead "the earth." So since the harlot has received the beast's name, authority, and territory on her forehead, she is depicted as having the Mark of the beast. "And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb" (Revelation 14:9-10). Quote There is no point in giving the third message - threatening wrath for worshiping the Beast and his image - UNTIL there actually IS a Beast and his Image. Or at least until there is ABOUT TO BE. I personally don't believe THAT has happened yet. Do you agree with the Bible? Or does the Bible agree with your personal opinion? "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space" (Revelation 17:10). Without knowing who these five kings are, you cannot possibly know the timing of the harlot's fulfillment of Bible prophecy. These kings are the 5 fallen popes: Pius XI & XII, John XXIII, Paul VI, and John-Paul I. The one that is was John-Paul II And the one for the short space was Benedict XVI. By understanding that Bible truth before Benedict resigned, I predicted 8 times in 2011 & 2012 that 2012 was Benedict's last year. I concluded that he might last till Spring of 2013. Benedict's resignation in February 2013 confirmed sound Bible study. Building on my correct understanding, the time has come for the harlot to have the Mark of the Beast. Quote In Daniel Cpt 7, the "Little Horn" (on the Beast) persecutes the saints right up UNTIL the "time comes for the saints to possess the kingdom". Same thing happens in Revelation, except the Image of the Beast does the persecuting. The two witnesses are killed just 3 and a half days before they are resurrected at the Voice of God, and ascend to Heaven. The Image of the Beast IS the Little Horn. This is a very LAST DAYS entity - NOT something that happened 3 and a half centuries ago! This message will be given by the "two witnesses" for 1260 days/ 42 months - leading up to the Second Coming. Linking Revelation 17 to Daniel 7 is obviously a mismatch of Bible prophecy if Daniel 7 is about events that happened centuries ago and Revelation 17 is current events. Christian regards His child His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted July 24, 2016 Moderators Posted July 24, 2016 In commenting why the judgement of God should be considered good news, Rachel (8th Day Priest) said, below: Rachel, from the teaching of the Bible, to include the O.T. is clearly correct. I might say it a bit differently and expand it a bit beyond what Rachel has said. But, she would remain correct. The Hebrew, as presented in the O.T., understanding of God's judgment was that the righteous had nothing to fear. In judgment, they would be justified, made whole, proclaimed righteous, etc. I believe it is because dominion is just about to be taken from Satan (and his evil Little Horn dictator demi-god). Satan is about to be removed! Gregory
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