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George Soros has been linked to a number of schemes to fund radical left ventures in American politics. Apparently not happy with the role of churches in the conservative side of the aisle, it seems he is in an effort to destabilize the Christian movements of America.

https://mariomurilloministries.wordpress.com/2019/04/03/is-george-soros-funding-division/

[JoeMo]

What else is new.? Soros is behind many of the left-wing conspiracies in the world.  Many have opined that he is funding the mass migration from Central America to the U.S. in an attempt to stack voters against Republicans and for Dems in the upcoming 2020 election.

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5 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

some would be quite surprised to learn who else is "funding division." 

Do tell!

[phkrause]

Hating George Soros

Here's a rebuttal to all the &$ posted about him!!

The attacks against the liberal philanthropist are rife with anti-Semitic smears.

https://www.aish.com/ci/s/Hating-George-Soros.html?

[JoeMo]

2 hours ago, phkrause said:

https://www.aish.com/ci/s/Hating-George-Soros.html?

Seems like this page has been taken down.  I couldn't even find it using the search function on the  Aish website.

[JoeMo]

Here is an interesting article that talks about both sides of Georgie boy.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-george-soros-became-the-target-of-both-anti-semites-and-right-wing-jews/

[phkrause]

6 hours ago, JoeMo said:

Seems like this page has been taken down.  I couldn't even find it using the search function on the  Aish website.

Yea, I just tried checking it out and it does seem that they took it down. When they put it back I'll repost. Not sure why??

[phkrause]

6 hours ago, JoeMo said:

Here is an interesting article that talks about both sides of Georgie boy.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-george-soros-became-the-target-of-both-anti-semites-and-right-wing-jews/

When I see that Mr Trump blames someone, or tries to say someone else is at fault, than I know its not true. The article that I tried to post was an interesting one, as I mentioned when its back I'll repost!!

[stinsonmarri]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 5/21/2019 at 8:45 PM, phkrause said:

1When I see that Mr Trump blames someone, or tries to say someone else is at fault, than I know its not true. The article that I tried to post was an interesting one, as I mentioned when its back I'll repost!!

Too me this is political confusion that Satan stirs up to keep our minds from the truth. Trump is here to try and divert all of our effort from the beast and the false prophet. It is his greatist triumph to have us fighting over this man! This is a diversion from Bible prophecy and being honest we have never seen the things that are happening today. The time is getting close to the remnant of the woman seed to be selected. Trump appears to start a fight with Iran and Korea is still making nuclear weapons. Nothing has change wars and rumors of wars, but the time is not yet. All that is been revealed is that sin and sinners are becoming more vicious and violent. Hatred is at a new high and church folks are the ring leaders, throwing children into cages like animals, hating people base on their color. Yes, homosexual is here but no one talks about oral sex, why and other unholy sexual acts? Most of all 2/3 of the world has not heard of the Gospel and the way America is acting they do not believe we actually believe in A SUPREME BEING! How are we going to preach to them with all this mess is going on, folks it is Satan! He wants us to burn with him and many are following him just like the pipe piper! Get ready, look at your garments, love one another, obey and keep the Commandments it is not too late! We all need prayer!

Happy Sabbath and be bless!

[R. G. White]

16 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

It is his greatest triumph to have us fighting over this man!

Perhaps, but "this man" has been made the agent for furthering the conservative movement in the USA (I will NOT call it "Christian") that is paving the way for the beast and the false prophet. When those whose agenda is supposedly to improve society's morals become so desperate for political power as to converge behind the most openly immoral candidate ever, then hypocrisy has reached its nadir, and we are on the verge of the final crisis.

[JoeMo]

12 minutes ago, R. G. White said:

Perhaps, but "this man" has been made the agent for furthering the conservative movement in the USA (I will NOT call it "Christian") that is paving the way for the beast and the false prophet.

I respectfully disagree with this.  I think President Trump was sent by God to delay the way of the beast and false prophet.  However, I'm not gonna get in a political debate which no one will win.

My main reason is that I don't think the beast and false prophet are the same entities which you believe them to be; and Trump is fighting a mighty battle against whom I believe to be the bad players in Daniel and Revelation.  Just my opinion.

[R. G. White]

Just now, JoeMo said:

I respectfully disagree with this.  I think President Trump was sent by God to delay the way of the beast and false prophet.  However, I'm not gonna get in a political debate which no one will win.

My main reason is that I don't think the beast and false prophet are the same entities which you believe them to be; and Trump is fighting a mighty battle against whom I believe to be the bad players in Daniel and Revelation.  Just my opinion.

Got it. You believe that Islam is the big threat. Not knowing much about your background, nor how you have reached this conclusion, I can at least respect the consistency of your position. I could even respect your opinion that Trump's arrival on the scene was providential, so long as you do not politically support such a vile man.

In my view, these events may indeed be a part of God's ultimate plan. Even Judas fulfilled prophecy. The final crisis must come, and I believe the most essential preparation is a heart united with Jesus, in love with His person, His character, and His law.

[JoeMo]

1 minute ago, R. G. White said:

You believe that Islam is the big threat

BINGO!

[JoeMo]

2 minutes ago, R. G. White said:

I could even respect your opinion that Trump's arrival on the scene was providential, so long as you do not politically support such a vile man.

I don't believe he is a vile man.  I believe he WAS a vile man.  I believe he is taking his office seriously; and is trying (and succeeding) to get the things done he promised to do in his campaign.  IMHO, all of the ranting about him is who he was/is as a person, not his performance as President.  Besides, like him or not, we must respect his office.

[stinsonmarri]

6 hours ago, R. G. White said:

Perhaps, but "this man" has been made the agent for furthering the conservative movement in the USA (I will NOT call it "Christian") that is paving the way for the beast and the false prophet. When those whose agenda is supposedly to improve society's morals become so desperate for political power as to converge behind the most openly immoral candidate ever, then hypocrisy has reached its nadir, and we are on the verge of the final crisis.

Conservatives are just like the Pharisees who think they should make choices for everyone. We all have the right to choose. YAHWEH allowed even Satan to prove what he truly is! This immortal man does not have a conservative bone in his body. He is greedy and uses people by lying. He misappropriated his nonprofit organization for his own use. This man and his children are selfish and out for themselves. It breaks my heart how deceptive he is, but it is a lesson to show how people will follow a lie instead of truth. It also shows how many so-called Christian is prejudice! The truth will come to the light! You cannot mistreat people and say you love THE MOST HIGH! I am praying for me and for all who are mislead innocently, that soon they will discover the truth. Just look at his character and the things he does and the name calling, the disrespect of women and the foul language it is disgusting and embarrassing! I love the veterans and he lied to keep from going to serve! Remember one thing YAHWEH is in control and this man too shall pass! It is Satan trying to divert the prophecy of YAHWEH, he will not, but a lot of souls will be caught up in his deceit and that too me it is sad that makes my heart hurt!

Blessings!

[JoeMo]

17 minutes ago, stinsonmarri said:

Conservatives are just like the Pharisees who think they should make choices for everyone.

Progressive liberals are just like the Pharisees who think they should make choices for everyone - like abortion , gun ownership, globalism (one-world government), open borders, and LGTBQ issues.  "Tolerance for all except the intolerant". They reject the law of God by calling good evil and evil good.

"They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one." (Romans 3:12) That applies to all of us.

[stinsonmarri]

 

 

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5 minutes ago, JoeMo said:

Progressive liberals are just like the Pharisees who think they should make choices for everyone - like abortion , gun ownership, globalism (one-world government), open borders, and LGTBQ issues.  "Tolerance for all except the intolerant". They reject the law of God by calling good evil and evil good.

"They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one." (Romans 3:12) That applies to all of us.

It is truly sad to hear you speak that because we don't want people to have harmful guns. Why do you need military weapons? Liberals have never said anywhere not to have a gun, it is the type of gun. You show me where liberals said not to have a gun, please! Liberal is not telling you to accept abortion, they are saying a woman has the right to choose! I do not believe in abortion, but I do if it is rape, or incest force on a female child or a woman. I would love to have counseling before aborting or allow them to carry the baby and give it to someone who wants one but cannot have one. It is about choice! I am sorry Joe but liberals have never said open borders, that is not true. Did you know that people who have education from other Europeans country are welcome here, but not those who are from SA, why? It is all about the color the skin my friend. If you want me to prove it I can okay! The borders of Canada is easy to come across, no one talks about their borders!

People who sin period does evil and that again is in both parties and you nor I  can say who they are! We know when someone stands up and show who they are and we can call them out! When we see them stand up and continue to hate people, mistreat children, cheat on their wives, lie continuously, selfish, deceitful, want to be worship. That my friend is breaking the Commandments. I am so sorry that we do not agree and it truly makes me sad. But if you can prove that Liberals have said the things you have said then just show me, I will apologize humbly. I am not here to attack, I am here to show how Satan works to deceive us all!

Blessings!

[R. G. White]

20 minutes ago, JoeMo said:

"They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one." (Romans 3:12) That applies to all of us.

Well said, that one. I'm not sure where you see the value in letting every murderer get access to automatic weapons (isn't there a happy medium somewhere?), nor in closing your borders to the destitute and oppressed. Nor do I see anyone pushing for a one world government, so you do appear to be the victim of fear-mongering and propaganda. That said, I cannot defend the liberals any more than I can the conservatives. All are in need of the grace of God.

Again, that said, I don't think the fact that all are sinful should blind us to the evident fact that "Christian" conservatives, en masse, have sold themselves out to an evil con man for political gain. Jesus said that His kingdom is not of this world, so He doesn't need or want anyone "taking back" their country for Him in that way. Moral suasion is His method, and His kingdom grows by one willing participant at a time.

[JoeMo]

11 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

You show me where liberals said not to have a gun, please!

Look at the feedback after any mass shootings.  The first thing liberals want to do is confiscate guns.  In my state, there is a law where if, in the sole opinion of an investigating officer, a person is a danger to himself or others, all guns can be confiscated with no recourse.

After the last mass shootings here, liberal Democrat state officials tried to turn a vigil for victims into an anti-gun rally.  The people there to grieve over dead and injured students were highly offended; walked out on them for politicizing a memorial service.

Don't get me wrong, Marri; I respect your opinions given your experiences and background. And I agree that satan is hard at work deceiving both sides; and sowing seeds of disunity.  

[JoeMo]

11 hours ago, R. G. White said:

I'm not sure where you see the value in letting every murderer get access to automatic weapons

I NEVER  said all murderers should have access to guns.  But if guns are taken away from law-abiding people, only criminals the military, and police will have guns. How are law-abiding citizens supposed to protect themselves against criminals and despot governments if only the "bad guys" or despot cops and soldiers have guns? 

If the gun control laws currently on the books were better enforced, we wouldn't need additional (and probably draconian) gun laws.

Chicago has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country.  It is also the gunshot murder capital of the US.  I see how good gun control works there.  They took away the people's guns in Germany before WWII. I see how well that worked out.  They took away people's guns in Venezuela.  That's working out well, too.

[stinsonmarri]

 

1 hour ago, JoeMo said:

Look at the feedback after any mass shootings.  The first thing liberals want to do is confiscate guns.  In my state, there is a law where if, in the sole opinion of an investigating officer, a person is a danger to himself or others, all guns can be confiscated with no recourse.

After the last mass shootings here, liberal Democrat state officials tried to turn a vigil for victims into an anti-gun rally.  The people there to grieve over dead and injured students were highly offended; walked out on them for politicizing a memorial service.

Don't get me wrong, Marri; I respect your opinions given your experiences and background. And I agree that satan is hard at work deceiving both sides; and sowing seeds of disunity.  

Joe: You make me so sad because you are so angry over confiscating guns then the mass shooting! People are killing children at schools and churches with assault guns! All I hear from you is about guns that kill and not about the human beings that are dead! To me this is horrible! People lives are more important than guns and I just can't believe those who say they love THE MOST HIGH can't distinguish between human life and weapons! When I was a little girl I was not afraid to go to school or to church, now children are afraid. You only choose a certain rally when I saw thousands of children march with their parents on Washington about GUNS! As I stated before guns that people are concerned with are assault weapons. My uncle and my father had guns, a rifle, and a pistol. We live in the country and my uncle before he died would shoot dears for meat. My father has two pistols and my mother told him to gid rid of one. I know where he kept it and my grandchildren were raised some years in this home, and it was out of their reach. You cannot state that Democrats don't have guns! Some even had assault weapons and they got rid of them. 

Joe, I respect you too but parties will not save us, it set us apart! I don't like guns period and I use to carry one myself. My life was not perfect and I thought the grass was greener on the other side and it was fake grass. Satan had me to believe by deception that it was real and it was not. The reason why I plead and present as I do because of what I choose to do for Satan. I came a split second for killing a man with a cut off shotgun. I know more about guns then you think, I was a packing mama sad to say! I was brought up in the truth and left it to be a gangster and I have to stand and tell the truth about my sins. That why I see things in Trump's character that was in me! Now you have the truth of who I once was. Yes, I was young got my life together and turn to YAHWEH, but it wasn't overnight and THE HOLY SPIRIT was about to leave me. I know because I beg for my life I was at death and YAHWEH heard and I didn't want to obey even after I was restored. I stand today and to let you all know that two angels as cops came and was taking me home. I was in the wrong and I should have been taking to jail. One was White and the other was Black! I had a 38 on me as well! I was high on Cocaine, never bought it with my money, I had others who gave it to me, I had that kind of power and money. This was not crack, it was not known back then! I was owed money and he did not have it and I would not let him in his house that's how evil I had become. I am so a shame now of the lives I affected and I promise THE MOST HIGH I would stand and present the truth! 

What I see now is true evil and deception like never before and lives are weighed in the balance I fall trembling before THE MOST HIGH ALMIGHTY with fear and trembling! What can I say to tell others how important it is to love one another and to obey HIS Commandments. Solomon said to remember THE CREATOR in our youth, I didn't and the evil day drew nigh and surrounded me. My mother's prayers were heard and I was revived and I am so grateful for her love and her prayers for her wayward daughter! I return and finish college with a zeal because I know about the dark side! Don't be deceived by Satan Joe like me please I beg you. Deception seems real, but it is fake! I have told you what I know about being a gangster today and what they do. They deceive, lie, cheat, steal and then kill their enemies! It is not about parties it is about sin period and how it has turned this country upside down! I was spare from killing anyone thanks to THE MOST HIGH! 

One last thing, I went back to the people I did wrong things with and told them I was wrong and was changed. I had to do that and I told them about the love of YAHSHUA. Many of them are dead now due to guns and violence and yes drugs. I tried to present to them the truth and I am saddened how they died. I want you to know I had to pay for my sins and it was a horrible lesson to learn but I am happy in YAHSHUA! I love you all pray for me as I pray for all on this forum!

Blessings!

[phkrause]

18 hours ago, JoeMo said:

I respectfully disagree with this.  I think President Trump was sent by God to delay the way of the beast and false prophet.  However, I'm not gonna get in a political debate which no one will win.

I actually believe the exact opposite. We need this country in turmoil, so that it gets so bad that the evangelicals will start saying how bad this country is and we need to get back to being religious, 10 C's in school, etc, etc. I see this all unfolding before our eyes. You have Trump calling on "Executive Orders" every time he needs something!! Well if and when the Democrats get in power what do you think there going to do?? So you can see how corrupt things are going to get! Anyway like you said lets not argue about it, its my opinion!!

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It is interesting sometimes watching what social issues push different buttons. Weird how one can get all upset about school shootings (which are relatively low in number) and not seem to care about the far greater numbers of babies being murdered before they can even take their first breath. I guess we can OK the killing of the unborn because they might be a product of rape or incest, but never mind that is a very small number (2% by some sources) of the babies born. We have crossed 50,000,000 babies terminated since Roe v Wade.

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2 hours ago, phkrause said:

You have Trump calling on "Executive Orders" every time he needs something!! 

I seem to remember Obama being the king of executive orders. Most of Trumps have been to undo the Obama activities.

[JoeMo]

3 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

You make me so sad because you are so angry over confiscating guns then the mass shooting! People are killing children at schools and churches with assault guns! All I hear from you is about guns that kill and not about the human beings that are dead! To me this is horrible!

You mis-read me, Marri.  I hate the thought that children are killed; and my heart aches for the families of the dead and injured.  It IS horrible.  But the fact remains that people kill people - not guns.  Law-abiding citizens may give up their guns; but that would leave them defenseless against the criminal and terrorist element (like those who carry out school and church shootings). Criminals and terrorists will NEVER voluntarily turn in their weapons.

 There is an increasing number of mass death due to people running cars and trucks through pedestrian crowds.  If that trend grows, will we ban cars and trucks?