The Dark Day... brought about by forest fire?

[stinsonmarri]

14 hours ago, hch said:

Oh that we would seek to have the Spirit of prophecy within us!

YAHSHUA cannot come in until THE HOLY SPIRIT clean those who are willing up and then seal us! Then HE Stands at our door and HE comes in when sin is removed from our mind. We will receive once again the righteousness our first parent lost and by beholden we will become change! That is the five wise virgins!

Blessings!

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/7/2019 at 12:43 PM, JoeMo said:

Could these constellations possibly be the location of some supernatural fortress - like either Heaven or the great Abyss - or the location of a "portal" or "wormhole" to the the dimension where heaven is?

Joe, I believe that Orion is the only wormhole to everlasting and the Bible does speak of the Abyss which is the Bottomless pit. From studying Job, Daniel, Luke, Peter, Jude, and Revelation it is clear that beyond Orion is where the fallen angels lost their first estate. I accept that they are in prison on a moon or planet that is distant from Heaven in our thinking but close for Satan to stand at the Gate and harass those who did not fall! They do not need a firmament like us, but they need soil or land mass and that's what the Greek word Ge means in Revelation Chapter 12. That's is where Satan seat, power, and authority is just like the emperor Day Star in Empire Strike back! Satan tells some of his secrets to people too! He just mixes it up with lies! We need to take some of these space movies serious and realize some truth is mixed with fairy tales. Satan reads the Bible and trembles and he makes sure he tells his warp side of his story to the masses. He is preparing for a battle and he can get people to believe that he was mistreated and expelled due to injustice people will believe it. I know some of you will not like my next statement. Look at all who believe Trump and those who actually claim that YAHWEH is with this man. YAHWEH deals with the truth! That's all I will say. Just think about it and pray!

Be Bless!

[JoeMo]

On 5/8/2019 at 9:46 PM, stinsonmarri said:

I know some of you will not like my next statement. Look at all who believe Trump and those who actually claim that YAHWEH is with this man. YAHWEH deals with the truth! That's all I will say. Just think about it and pray!

Hi Marri,

I liked all of your previous post except this part.  I don't believe there is such a thing as an "truthful politician" in either party. "Truthful politician" is an oxymoron - emphasis on the "moron" part of the word.  Neither the Dems nor the Republicans have it right.  Only the future King - the Lord Jesus - has it right.  No matter who on this earth is under the illusion that they have everything under control, they don't.  Prophecy tells us that the nonsense will soon stop and the earth's rightful King shall take His place on the throne of David.

[stinsonmarri]

2 hours ago, JoeMo said:

Hi Marri,

I liked all of your previous post except this part.  I don't believe there is such a thing as an "truthful politician" in either party. "Truthful politician" is an oxymoron - emphasis on the "moron" part of the word.  Neither the Dems nor the Republicans have it right.  Only the future King - the Lord Jesus - has it right.  No matter who on this earth is under the illusion that they have everything under control, they don't.  Prophecy tells us that the nonsense will soon stop and the earth's rightful King shall take His place on the throne of David.

Many will not and I never claim a party. I stated the man, people voted for him from both parties. It is not about the party it is about the belief that many claims "God" wanted him to be president to make America Great again. We have all of these gods, the god of the Jews, the god of the Christians, god of the Muslims, the god of the Hindus and so on. My point is from the time man sin false pagan worship and lying about the events and signs are in the same boat! Where are those who are peculiar and different?

I am not hung on politic like most, I look for the one who the Bible said is the false prophet that will come from America. I know that it is YAHWEH that sets up all in kings but for a reason. Alexander the Great was allowed but not to make Greece great, but to serve the person of prophecy. During the time of Alexander, the purpose was to move Persia out of the way. He ruled Greece as both the leopard and the goat! Greece has changed the entire world to this day! I stated Trump to show that man-made laws do not supersede THE MOST HIGH! America has boasted that she is a country of laws and democracy, but now there is a Constitutional crisis! Why? YAHWEH allowed this man to erupt their laws! Both parties are supposed to keep USA's laws and they don't! Nixon broke them, Reagan and Clinton now Trump! It does not matter about a party it matters about truth and obedience to THE FATHER!

I believe Trump is a sign and the devil is trying to stop the prophecy of YAHWEH being fulfilled. Just like 9/11, this is a wake-up call to show all who claim to love HIM DON'T! You can't love and cause hate and violence. YAHSHUA stated a sign for the dark days and also that before HE comes it will be like the days of Noah! That's my point and not any political party! Racism is on the rise like never before! Children have no compass or guidance! Why? When you see parents in rallies calling out to shoot or harm someone that is wrong. I don't care what party or affiliation, this is hatred. Who would have thought church-going folks would react like this! Do you think that THE FATHER wants us to kill each over land? I should truly hate them because my ancestor was treated for no reason like cattle! I don't, but I stand for my culture to be respected! Folks get angry and they shouldn't because they have not walk a mile in my cultures shoes and have suffered like my ancestors have. I feel the pain of those in the Holocaust for what they suffer as well. No one has the right to take away anyone's rights and we all have. Doing the ancient time Nimrod rule and he was Black, evil and wrong, so were the Egyptian, the Canaanites and so on. They knew YAHWEH but rejected the truth just like what is happening today. We all have sinned, but time is running out. So if I call out Trump, I am not calling out about a party it is about his actions. This man was doing these things before he came into the White House! Bill Clinton was cheating on his wife before he came into the White House. He was cheating on her when he was Governor! Sin is sin!

My mind is own the prophecies and their relation to the last days! When I present anything is about the Bible! That's my stand and that what I want all to understand. Parties have nothing to do with salvation!

Blessings!

[JoeMo]

8 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

I believe Trump is a sign and the devil is trying to stop the prophecy of YAHWEH being fulfilled.

Many people believe just the opposite.  They think Trump was sent by God as this country's last chance for salvation.

8 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

I look for the one who the Bible said is the false prophet that will come from America.

Exactly where in the Bible does it say this explicitly?  I know many people "infer" this from certain isolated bits of scripture, but I don't find any explicit references to America in scripture, or anywhere the scripture even implies USA involvement.  To me, scripture reads like America doesn't even exist anymore in the end times. Or at least, America does not play an important role in end-time events.  Given where the vast majority of the Bible was written and who it's about, I am of the opinion that the major players in end-time events will be concentrated around the Middle East.

[stinsonmarri]

21 hours ago, JoeMo said:

Many people believe just the opposite.  They think Trump was sent by God as this country's last chance for salvation.

Exactly where in the Bible does it say this explicitly?  I know many people "infer" this from certain isolated bits of scripture, but I don't find any explicit references to America in scripture, or anywhere the scripture even implies USA involvement.  To me, scripture reads like America doesn't even exist anymore in the end times. Or at least, America does not play an important role in end-time events.  Given where the vast majority of the Bible was written and who it's about, I am of the opinion that the major players in end-time events will be concentrated around the Middle East.

Many believe the opposite is like a broad path to destruction! Straight and narrow, the Bible says is the way. I do not follow crowds, I follow YAHSHUA and HE never mistreated people. HE never claimed that people base on their color and their country are "__ holes!" This man has been in both parties so we can wipe that out! He is supposed to be the leader of the whole country not just for a few! My issues are not even the above problems he's done it's about this country Constitutions or laws! This country bragged about their laws and now they are being challenged. I also am concern about the violence, hatred as well. These concerns are Bible base as in the days of Noah. This is a sign that YAHSHUA told us to be prepared for and it is happening. Another shooting in a SCHOOL, children are being killed, I pray for my grandchildren today! This is not about parties, this about sin, and being prepared for what's soon to come! Things are so out of control and we have not come to the Time of Trouble yet! That's my concern and the Gospel being completed!

Read Rev 13:11-16; 19:20! Now, only a buffalo has two horns like a lamb! I believe prophetically along with the pioneers that this is America! I have not changed from this belief base on the above two Scriptures and there are more. This is where I and the SDA differ, according to Rev 11 & 18 the papacy will eventually take again Jerusalem. When the embassy was move was a sign. The Catholic Church and Protestants actually have taken over Jerusalem and Bethlehem. Have you been there? The fire that destroys the great city is a nuke bomb in Rev Chapter 18 and Babylon is a city which is Jerusalem. Again, she has left the truth starting with the false religion call Judaic! The Jews and the USA are really tight now but not for long according to the above Scriptures. Her judgment again in one hour or after the Time of Trouble is close. The one hour of time this world is without an INTERCESSOR and the beast will be in control and the 2 horned lamb-like beast (the false prophet), will destroy Jerusalem, the papacy and the Protestants (the uncage birds the harlots of Rev Chapter 17). This is the battle of Armageddon, only one must be worship over the entire world! One hour in Daniel is 60 days or two months. Subtract 1,260 from 1,290! Then subtract 1,260 from 1,335 is 60 + 15 days. Read Daniel 12:9-12 YAHSHUA told Daniel how time will end, and wicked will not understand but the wise will! The word sacrifice was put in it is italic. The daily means continual and that is the Covenant which everlasting! When the Covenant has been removed and the beast stands to be worship. He will cause the final world war of flesh beings. The papacy will be destroyed by him and then he prepares to take on YAHSHUA! He does not stand a chance at all! Those15 days is what is stated in Rev 11:15-19; 16:16-21; blessed be to the righteous ones because THE FATHER states: IT IS FINISH! Hail is falling and YAHSHUA is told to them by THE FATHER is on the Way! It all about understanding and believing the signs!

Blessings to all!

 

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On 5/10/2019 at 3:00 PM, stinsonmarri said:

 I stated Trump to show that man-made laws do not supersede THE MOST HIGH! America has boasted that she is a country of laws and democracy, but now there is a Constitutional crisis! Why? ...  Nixon broke them, Reagan and Clinton now Trump!

I have noticed you don't call out Barak Obama. You must be one of those true believers that think there were no scandals in the Obama White House. You can not even see the "Constitutional crisis" you are complaining about is a result of dirty tricks which started in the Obama administration. People knew that the Russians were messing around in US elections years before the 2016 elections and the Obama did not do anything about it. Obama is the one who started locking up kids in cages and then the Dems blame it on Trump but Trump is the one who ended the practice. I will stop there but the scandals were very much a part of the Obama White House and the political left has done nothing but lie about Trump from before he even came into the White House. But don't worry, AG Barr is on his way to uncover some of that mess for the public to see even clearer, but I suspect it won't make a bit of difference to you as you continue to elicit hate in Trump's direction.

On 5/10/2019 at 3:00 PM, stinsonmarri said:

I should truly hate them because my ancestor was treated for no reason like cattle! I don't, but I stand for my culture to be respected!

Here is a clue. Everyone's ancestor was treated wrongly at some time in history. I can even tell you ways that you probably benefited from the near slavery of whites and asians in America in relatively recent times. However, in this day and age in America virtually no one has ever been a slave and people of all colors have lived in less than ideal conditions. Over the last fifty years, there is no reason why any black person in America cannot do just as well as anyone else if they work hard. One statistic says that over 70% of blacks in this country are fully in the middle class. I think for the most part the disrespect you are complaining about is in your imagination.

On 5/10/2019 at 3:00 PM, stinsonmarri said:

So if I call out Trump, I am not calling out about a party it is about his actions. This man was doing these things before he came into the White House! Bill Clinton was cheating on his wife before he came into the White House. He was cheating on her when he was Governor!

Regardles of what the left wingers say, Trump is still your president. You might learn a lesson from Elijah. After the event on Mt. Carmel, this is recorded regarding his actions: He (Elijah) had slain his idolatrous priests, and now he wished to show to Israel that he acknowledged Ahab as his king. As an act of special homage he guided his chariot, running before it to the entrance of the gate of the city. 3T287

The left complaining about Trump reminds me of the people of Israel blaming everything on Elijah: They could not see God's hand in the judgments under which they were suffering because of their sins, but charged them to the man Elijah. They abhorred not the sins which had brought them under the chastening rod, but hated the faithful prophet, God's instrument to denounce their sins and calamity. 3T277

 

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stinsonmarri said: I believe that Orion is the only wormhole to everlasting ...

Methinks you are mixing Star Trek with your theological beliefs!

[JoeMo]

I know this is kind of off the subject; but in my opinion the Jews have been the most hated and persecuted people in the world for the past 2,000 years. I agree with B/W that virtually every ethnic group on the planet has been enslaved at one time or another in the past 6,000 years.

B/W - I don't think stitsonmarri's comment about Orion is that far off the mark.  There is no doubt that God is "extraterrestrial" in the sense that His dwelling place and throne are not on this earth (yet). To me, the fact that Jesus ascended into heaven clearly indicates His current home is in the stars.

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1 hour ago, JoeMo said:

B/W - I don't think stitsonmarri's comment about Orion is that far off the mark.  There is no doubt that God is "extraterrestrial" in the sense that His dwelling place and throne are not on this earth (yet). To me, the fact that Jesus ascended into heaven clearly indicates His current home is in the stars.

The part of Orion may not be completely of the mark, however, Orion is not a place but a section of empty sky containing a certain number of stars in a constellation resembling a hunter, if you use your imagination! (If you try really, really hard, you might even see the hunter's dog! But the dog is a long way away from the hunter at only 8 light years from earth.) EGW noted that heaven was thru the "empty space in Orion." I have no problem with heaven being "up" in space somewhere as even in Revelation it states the New Jerusalem will descend to this earth.

We have no idea what actual methods of celestial transportation exists in the universe. We can have idea such as where the angel came from heaven to the side of Daniel while he was praying. I feel confident that heaven is well beyond the constellation of Orion. One of the nearer stars of Orion is over 600 light years away.

But, "wormholes", while considered to be consistent with the special theory of relativity, have never been shown to exist. They largely remain the stuff of science fiction. I highly doubt that angels have to go looking for the nearest wormhole entrance when needing to go somewhere on a special mission for God. That would be kinda like looking for the nearest subway station when you wanted to go somewhere in New York City! (A very inefficient form of transportation for heaven's needs!)

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19 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

B/W. Id better not tell you about the book I am reading on the racism problems.

Depends on how biased it may be!

[JoeMo]

9 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

its VERY biased. I am considering starting a topic on some of the issues I am seeing in it. But it would have to go in the dangerous section of the forum. lol

That has my interest up!

[phkrause]

So I guess your not going to give the name yet??

[B/W Photodude]

1 hour ago, The Wanderer said:

It would seriously derail this topic, so if you are patient, Ill get around to starting a separate topic and will discuss the book there with interested participants asap

Will be watching for it. Now we are in suspense!

[JoeMo]

I'm waiting with a worm on the end of my tongue (also known as baited breath).

[hch]

On 5/11/2019 at 9:27 PM, stinsonmarri said:

Read Rev 13:11-16; 19:20! Now, only a buffalo has two horns like a lamb! I believe prophetically along with the pioneers that this is America! I have not changed from this belief base on the above two Scriptures and there are more. This is where I and the SDA differ, according to Rev 11 & 18 the papacy will eventually take again Jerusalem

Looks like prophecy is to be repeated. Like the  Dark Day in May so many years ago that will be repeated when the 7 last plagues are poured out.

Re 16:10  "And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,"

I wonder if they will try to explain away the supernatural manifestation of God's power by blaming smog or a forest fire?

[JoeMo]

7 hours ago, hch said:

I wonder if they will try to explain away the supernatural manifestation of God's power by blaming smog or a forest fire?

Won't be able to explain it away in our day and age. Satellite photos would verify whether or not smoke or thick clouds were blocking the sun.  Also, I believe the darkness associated with the prophecy will cover a heck of a lot more area than just a small isolated portion of New England.

[JoeMo]

From Wikipedia:

"For several days before the Dark Day, the Sun as viewed from New England appeared to be red, and the sky appeared yellow. While the darkness was present, soot was observed to have collected in rivers and in rain water, suggesting the presence of smoke. Also, when the night really came in, observers saw the Moon colored red. For portions of New England, the morning of May 19, 1780 was characterized by rain, indicating that cloud cover was present."

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/11/2019 at 9:56 PM, B/W Photodude said:

I have noticed you don't call out Barak Obama.

As I stated earlier, this has nothing to do with parties, this has to with the man himself. I have never seen Barak Obama, the Bushes, Jimmy Carter, Ragan or other men in the office act the way this man acts at all. I am not prejudiced, but it appears you are. The character has nothing at all to do with parties it has to do with the person.

Happy Sabbath!

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/11/2019 at 9:56 PM, B/W Photodude said:

Here is a clue. Everyone's ancestor was treated wrongly at some time in history.

You would say that! None were chattel slaves!

Happy Sabbath!

 

[hch]

2 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

One of the things they wont be able to explain away is when Gods people world-wide put on such a united front that they truly are *ONE.* That little word *ONE* is going to be very prominent in the *final moments.*

Was it Jesus who prayed that we be in one accord?

That is such a tiny car, the group of believers that fits into it will have to be limited. 

[HC, I applaud your sense of humor--GM.]

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/11/2019 at 9:56 PM, B/W Photodude said:

Methinks you are mixing Star Trek with your theological beliefs!

Even though Star Trek was fictional, many of the things they used have been made and are more advanced.

Cell Phones

Tablets

Kindle

Blue Tooth

Virtual Assistants

Video Calls

Food Replicator

Holodeck

Tractor Beam

Natural Language Queries 

This gives me to believe what YAHWEH Said in Gen Chapter Eleven and about Orion!

The Bible stated:

Can you bind the bands of the Pleiades, or loosen the cords of Orion? Can you bring out the constellations in their season; or can you guide the Bear with its sons? Do you know the limits of the heavens; can you establish their rulership on the earth? Job 38:31-33

For some mysterious reason, the constellation of Orion was of great importance to ancient cultures around the globe. Some even call the Correlation of Orion a global phenomenon since this pattern of stars was accurately portrayed by our ancients on monuments throughout the ancient world, from Egypt to Mexico. For an unknown reason, this constellation has been the center of the skies for our ancestors. collectivespark

Do you know the limits of Heaven or the cords of Orion? I called a Worm Hole only for what scientist and astrologist today call it. It can be called the time cords or whatever, my point is not about the name is about how the belt of this constellation has been the great phenomenon and EGW said that Heaven is beyond these stars. Orion belt is full of what Astrologist claim is gas, but they have discovered even larger stars within. I believe that the cluster that appears like gas is the dividing line between the time we are in and everlasting. It is amazing that if you notice that from the ancient down thru today Orion's belt has been the most stars that have been studied. Why? We all know that angels can live forever unless YAHWEH destroyed them! We had to eat from the Tree of Life to live and without it, we age and die. THE ALMIGHTY always exited and where do the angels fly from Heaven to here? I say Orion because of all the historical, and archeological evidence which center around Orion's belt and what is found in the Bible. That's my presentation but if you can show something else that has a better explanation I would gladly read it.

Blessings and Happy Sabbath to All!

[stinsonmarri]

1 hour ago, The Wanderer said:

I have sometimes wondered if we can really claim that slavery has actually been done away with. It seems that with the way the economy is set up, there are in fact many more slaves than what there used to be. Of course, this does not take away from the atrocities which were committed against *black* people. Or *people* of color. Even these terms which modern sociology has invented for *the right thing to call them* are racist. They are so often used pejoratively, and some act like *white* is not even a color. White is a color too. I am a colored man.  I am a *person of color* too. Everyone should just be called *people* or *person* instead of singling them out, according to *color.* The Bible does not support the idea of different *races.*  I do agree, the *chattel slave* situation you refer to is an exceptional atrocity. I can still hardly believe my eyes when I read of some of the historical accounts of same.

We can only look forward to the Hope we all have in Christ, Jesus to finally be rid of this scourge, once and for all.

*He hath made of all nations ONE BLOOD,*  (Acts 17:26)

One of the things they wont be able to explain away is when Gods people world-wide put on such a united front that they truly are *ONE.* That little word *ONE* is going to be very prominent in the *final moments.*

Wander: You know a White Woman said the same thing in a store to me. I told her you are color and I have never said that you weren't. I said your people said that or make the difference between all the other color than them!  If  I knew the masters or if they were alive today I would tell them I forgive them. It has been a hard struggle for me over the years but I have changed. If YAHSHUA Said; FATHER FORGIVE THEM..." And HE was THE SON and A ELOHE, then I too must forgive. There is a reason why I am here in America and I know Satan brought my ancestors here in the cruelest way, however, YAHWEH made something bad to become something great. It all has to do with love and forgiveness! I must stand for the truth of what has been done but not in anger but in love. We all must change including me!

The word one in the English language is not the same in the Hebrews language. One blood, one flesh, and one ELOHIYM mean the same in Hebrew. One blood shows two people together produced many nations, one flesh show when married you work together. One ELOHIYM is a UNION of THREE INDIVIDUAL SPIRIT BEINGS working together. Persons are people, not SPIRIT BEINGS! I can only pray that all will see this! 

Happy Sabbath and be bless!

[JoeMo]

15 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

None were chattel slaves!

Yes they were.  Look at the Jews under Egyptian slavery and Babylonian captivity.  Look at the poor non-Muslim women in the Middle East who are sex slaves to ISIS.  Look at the Chinese who were forced into slavey to build the railroads.

 

14 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

I have sometimes wondered if we can really claim that slavery has actually been done away with.

Most people are slaves (or at best indentured servants) to their jobs.  Most people (especially the unskilled) are underpaid compared to their "masters" (CEO's and General Managers).  They may not feel like they are owned; but they are.

I don't think the Bible ever outright condemns slavery; but it does condemn treating your slaves badly.

[JoeMo]

13 hours ago, hch said:

Was it Jesus who prayed that we be in one accord?

That is such a tiny car, the group of believers that fits into it will have to be limited. 

I was just gonna ask what kind of car Jesus drives? - A great big Honda!  He wants us all to be in one Accord!

[stinsonmarri]

12 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

another really cool thing re *ONE* as used in scripture is it is often used in a collective or plural sense or context.  In scripture ONE is the biggest number!!

Wander: You are correct! I had to research the Paleo Hebrew word 'echâd due to its diversity of meanings.

Strongs states this adjective means properly united, that is, one; or (as an ordinal) first: - a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any (-thing), apiece, a certain [daily], each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, once, one, only, other, some, together.

The Paleo Hebrew language must be understood differently than the Indo-European languages.

The language of the Ancient Hebrews is closely related to their agricultural and nomadic lifestyle. Each word must be understood through this culture rather than from our own modern western Greco-Roman culture. . .  A good example of this is found in the very first verse of Genesis where most translations will have "In the beginning God created." The Revised Mechanical Translation reads "In the summit, Elohiym fattened." The Ancient Hebrew Language; By Jeff A. Benner

But what made it worst is the changing of words by translators causing confusion a mixture of different denominations.  All claiming to believe in THE MOST HIGH! One word can have many to believe a lie! YAHWEH clearly said not to add or subtract from the Paleo Hebrew language and it is an Afro-Asiatic language that our European family still will not accept due to prejudice and that's sad. Just like refusing to accept the truth about the dark days, the same problem accepting this language was not a Semitic language but a Canaanite language who were descendants from Ham! So they put it in the Afro-Asiatic language and still labeling it Semitic! When we truly accept the history that YAHWEH created us all out of one blood this must be corrected!

Like the dark days the belief that Deut. 6:4-5 is referring to a trinity when it is not. It has to do with the Paleo Hebrew word ELOHIYM. This word or TITLE was not in the original script at all and it is plural. What Moses said: "Hear, O IsraEL, YAHWEH our ELOHINU is ONE.” Even as a historian, I am not perfect and I miss this myself until reasons. I too accepted the plural form and thought the adjective echad meant unity or together. I was wrong it meant one or first base on the noun. The TITLE was ELOHINU and not ELOHIYM that many Hebrew suppose versions deceived me. ELOHINU is singular and means the same as “our ELOAH, which is the singular form also.”  This verse was referring to YAHWEH, THE FATHER THE FIRST called THE MOST HIGH! Everything is done for HIM, that is why YAHSHUA has always come down and represented HIM and HIS NAME! HE Said in John, I come in MY FATHER'S NAME. I have said this before The theme of the Bible is THE FATHER and that is done by THE SON and THE HOLY SPIRIT is to uplift THE MOST HIGH! THREE INDIVIDUAL SPIRIT BEINGS but THE FATHER comes FIRST YAHWEH ELOHINU!

Happy Sabbath!