The Dark Day... brought about by forest fire?

[phkrause]

17 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

As I stated earlier, this has nothing to do with parties, this has to with the man himself. I have never seen Barak Obama, the Bushes, Jimmy Carter, Ragan or other men in the office act the way this man acts at all. I am not prejudiced, but it appears you are. The character has nothing at all to do with parties it has to do with the person.

Happy Sabbath!

Exactly!!!!! These others stood up for something, not like this person!! And if some want to believe in a party first and not the US first than they have a problem, because this president does not represent the republican party, at least not to me!!!!!

[B/W Photodude]

On 5/17/2019 at 8:23 PM, stinsonmarri said:

You would say that! None were chattel slaves!

When you make a statement like this, I know you are not the historian you claim to be.

[B/W Photodude]

On 5/17/2019 at 8:20 PM, stinsonmarri said:

 I have never seen Barak Obama, the Bushes, Jimmy Carter, Ragan or other men in the office act the way this man acts at all. I am not prejudiced, but it appears you are. The character has nothing at all to do with parties it has to do with the person.

Still clueless. Stop watching CNN!

[stinsonmarri]

40 minutes ago, B/W Photodude said:

When you make a statement like this, I know you are not the historian you claim to be.

Why because I do not go along with your suppressive comments? I will not say things I really want to say about you. The reason is I love YAHWEH and in spite of your negative comment about me, I love you too. I not going to tell you it is easy! It easier to get in a spat with you, but is not what we come here for. It serves no purpose and we should be concentrating on truth and uplifting THE NAME of YAHWEH! Secondly, I do not have to prove or defend my degree to you. You have a right to your opinion of me and I will leave at that.

Be Bless Photodude!

[stinsonmarri]

49 minutes ago, B/W Photodude said:

Still clueless. Stop watching CNN!

You see how you act! I do not watch CNN! You could have asked and I would have told you what news I watch. It is so sad that we cannot disagree, so we stoop to Trump tactic. This is what I am talking about is the character instead of a party. Insulting a person because we don't agree. Thinking you know what I watch, or feel, or do and you don't. You put down that I am not a historian base on your standard. Prejudice is not only about the color of someone skin It is how you think you are better than another person. What have I done to you but disagreed with your comments and show you your action, not mine? It's alright because this is a test for me to bless you and to pray for both of us. My goal is to make it to heaven and to make the new earth my home. I have battled over the lost of my mother, depression, illness, disability (a neck and back surgery others surgeries too) and soon another surgery. I only sharing this to let you know those are high mountains I've climbed. So your insults help me to see what I've been through and why I have changed. I will continue to stand for what's right so I will continue to pray for us both.

Blessings!

Be Bless!

[B/W Photodude]

2 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

You see how you act! I do not watch CNN! You could have asked and I would have told you what news I watch. It is so sad that we cannot disagree, so we stoop to Trump tactic. This is what I am talking about is the character instead of a party. Insulting a person because we don't agree.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck! Your comments regarding our President sounds pretty much like they were scripted by CNN. You have also at times expressed disdain for those who are church members who would vote for President Trump.

Never mind the almost frenzied lies coming out of CNN for the last more than two years. And the even louder frenzy when the Mueller report came up empty. And then the Dem leaders went into overdrive to try and destroy someone else because he would not give into their demands to release the entire Mueller report un-redacted. (It would be illegal to do so.) So, for being for a certain set of principles, Donald Trump has been vilified from well before he even was elected. Given that proof exists that Trump was well liked by Dems before he ran for president, it is clear that if he had run and won as a Democrat and continued their leftist policies, he would have been well liked by the Dems. However, by moving to do things like protecting this country and protecting unborn babies, he has incurred the wrath of Dems.

13,000 fully survivable near term babies are murdered every year in this country. A very large percentage of them black. In several large American cities, more black babies are aborted than are born. Sounds like the current Dems are treating blacks even worse than slavery years and figured out how to get blacks to support them. You likely would not have seen blacks supporting the slave owners during the slavery years.

You left out Obama from your list of presidents. And like many others, you probably believe in the near saint hood of Barak by claiming that never a scandal occurred during his regime. That is a blindness in itself. There were many. And POSSIBLY, when the current ongoing investigations are done, part of the blame will land squarely on him. It has already been established that Russian involvement was going on and which his Whitehouse DID NOTHING! Don't forget his most famous lie, "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

And given that Hillary's campaign is now being looked at as the source of the dossier that was full of lies and much of the blame for the lies regarding Trump and for which lies were told to the FISA court to get approval for spying on the Trump campaign, you really think she was any better than Donald Trump?

What this whole political fiasco boils down to is just an attempt at a political coup in American politics.

[B/W Photodude]

3 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

it was "redacted" not "empty."

It was both. There were required by law redactions (which the members of congress are free to go read, but they would rather just make a bunch of noise about it) and there was an emptiness of anything to charge the president with.

Some complain that the report does not exonerate the president. Unfortunately, they should have stayed awake during civics class. Prosecutors do not exonerate people. They either charge with a crime or not. Simply put, a person (including the president) is innocent until proven guilty. Since there were no charges the president does not even need exoneration. 

Theoretically, we do not make up rules after the fact to suit our wild fantasies about how things should be. "Ex post facto" is prohibited in the constitution, but to the rabid members of congress, so what!

[B/W Photodude]

7 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

My goal is to make it to heaven and to make the new earth my home. I have battled over the lost of my mother, depression, illness, disability (a neck and back surgery others surgeries too) and soon another surgery. I only sharing this to let you know those are high mountains I've climbed. So your insults help me to see what I've been through and why I have changed. I will continue to stand for what's right so I will continue to pray for us both.

This is the problem with discussions on internet forums in black & white. If I was having the same discussion with you in person, you would know that I disagree with you, but that also I am not insulting you. In black & white you miss the largest part of communication known as non-verbal communication. 

 You may think I am insulting you, but you also come across as being insulting yourself. And we all have high mountains to climb. There is a reason why they are there.

So, don't be hating on Trump supporters. The last election was dismal on so many levels regarding who was available to capture the publics attention. It is said that people are so used to Republicans showing up in golfing clothes with no heart for the struggle. Dems just aren't used to someone showing up with brass knuckles to get things done!

Donald Trump has a long track record in his life of helping unfortunate people in tough situations. And he does not deserve the treatment he gets, especially from Christians.

[JoeMo]

B/W,

Quit mincing your words and tell us how you REALLY feel.?

Since the discussion has turned to presidents, I'll put my 2 bits in.  If I had to choose who I would want to have a beer with (non-alcoholic, of course!) between Trump and Obama, I would definitely pick Obama.  In spite of his politics, he seems like a real fun and likable person.  If I were to choose who I want to run the country, it is DEFINITELY Trump.  In spite of being a former dirtbag and a continuing abrasive personality, he is actually doing the things he promised to do while campaigning - unlike any of the presidents of the past 42 years.  Those years have proven that trying to be a nice generous patient (IMHO "patsy") country to the rest of the world, most of the world still hated and disrespected the U.S.  Well, under Trump things are different.  N Korea has backed down,  Iran appears to be backing down.  Many in the UN are backing down.  Plus, he supports God's chosen people - Israel.

And now ...

[B/W Photodude]

3 hours ago, JoeMo said:

Quit mincing your words and tell us how you REALLY feel. ?

Should I post a picture wearing a MAGA hat?!

3 hours ago, JoeMo said:

If I had to choose who I would want to have a beer with (non-alcoholic, of course!) between Trump and Obama, I would definitely pick Obama.  In spite of his politics, he seems like a real fun and likable person.  If I were to choose who I want to run the country, it is DEFINITELY Trump.  In spite of being a former dirtbag and a continuing abrasive personality, he is actually doing the things he promised to do while campaigning - unlike any of the presidents of the past 42 years.

Nah, I would rather hang out with the Donald. Sorry, but guys who spend their time groveling in front of foreign leaders don't impress me. So, yeah, Trump is kind of blunt at times, but I bet you never have to guess where you stand with him. As far as that dirtbag thing, he may have talked it, but he doesn't have a string of rape victims behind him like another president did and his wife worked to destroy the victims. Locker room talk is much different from actually doing things and also is not as bad as working for the killing of unborn babies. So, I guess we have different opinions of what a "dirtbag" really is.

[hch]

Oh what a dark day, and the sun is still shining.

[JoeMo]

8 hours ago, B/W Photodude said:

Should I post a picture wearing a MAGA hat?!

Sure! But you may be targeted by certain progressive liberals!  

8 hours ago, B/W Photodude said:

Nah, I would rather hang out with the Donald.

Hanging out with either of them would be a lifetime experience; but either case is totally theoretical. I doubt that either one of them would want to hang out with either of us.

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/18/2019 at 11:36 AM, JoeMo said:

Yes they were.  Look at the Jews under Egyptian slavery and Babylonian captivity.  Look at the poor non-Muslim women in the Middle East who are sex slaves to ISIS.  Look at the Chinese who were forced into slavey to build the railroads.

Joe: I am truly sorry but the Hebrews, not Jews were not slaves, they became servants. The reason was stated very clear in Ex 1:8-11. During the time of Joseph, it was an intermediate period in Egypt. The Hyksos an Asiatic people who the true Egyptian felt was related to the Hebrews. This need to explain, as I stated earlier the Hebrew had adopted a Canaanite language. The Canaanites the Bible stated spread abroad that is why China and all Asians people are from Ham! When Ahmose took over Egypt, he felt that IsraEL was a very large group of people and would join again with the Hyksos if they return. As most nations do in ancient time is to reduce the population, they kill the male child who grew up and fight in wars!

Many scholars have felt that Hatshepsut was the one to found Moses, but I said it was her daughter, the princess Neferure. She about five years older than Thutmose III and around 16, she was the one who found Moses. The fact is she was known as “King’s Daughter, King’s Wife” (sAt-niswt, hmt-niswt). The inscription found at Sinai Amenemhat was also a prince of the eighteenth dynasty of Egypt, the son of Thutmose III who died.

Finally, the Egyptian never moved them from their home in Goshen. This was a very important and rich area. Also, the handmaiden did not follow the king first order to kill the male children. The word Taskmaster was the head person and notice how easy it was for a Hebrew to stand up and let Moses know of his crime. Moses at that time was known as a prince of Egypt! Aaron also was led to Moses if he was a slave, how could he have spoken to the Pharaoh the way he did!

The Bible also shows proof that IsraEL were servants, they were paid for their service.

And YAHWEH gave favor to the people in the eyes of the Egyptians. And they granted their requests. And they plundered Egypt. Ex 12:36

Chattel slavery is property and you are branded and inspected just like an animal that's the difference. No one was treated like this but Afrikans! Let’s be very clear, I do not excuse the mistreatment of human beings. But none were treated by all Europeans who cut Afrika up like a piece of cake. They took the people, then took over the land and stole the resources. That’s a fact and that is the reason why Afrika has suffered until reason. Many Europeans today have realized what has been done and now are working to make things better. Sad is hatred has rip up a lot of the area in Afrika due to slavery and teaching them to turn on each one. The new fanatic Islamic view has also reach Afrika which have devastated the people as well.

Blessings!

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/19/2019 at 2:32 PM, B/W Photodude said:

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck! Your comments regarding our President sounds pretty much like they were scripted by CNN. You have also at times expressed disdain for those who are church members who would vote for President Trump.

Never mind the almost frenzied lies coming out of CNN for the last more than two years. And the even louder frenzy when the Mueller report came up empty. And then the Dem leaders went into overdrive to try and destroy someone else because he would not give into their demands to release the entire Mueller report un-redacted. (It would be illegal to do so.) So, for being for a certain set of principles, Donald Trump has been vilified from well before he even was elected. Given that proof exists that Trump was well liked by Dems before he ran for president, it is clear that if he had run and won as a Democrat and continued their leftist policies, he would have been well liked by the Dems. However, by moving to do things like protecting this country and protecting unborn babies, he has incurred the wrath of Dems.

13,000 fully survivable near term babies are murdered every year in this country. A very large percentage of them black. In several large American cities, more black babies are aborted than are born. Sounds like the current Dems are treating blacks even worse than slavery years and figured out how to get blacks to support them. You likely would not have seen blacks supporting the slave owners during the slavery years.

You left out Obama from your list of presidents. And like many others, you probably believe in the near saint hood of Barak by claiming that never a scandal occurred during his regime. That is a blindness in itself. There were many. And POSSIBLY, when the current ongoing investigations are done, part of the blame will land squarely on him. It has already been established that Russian involvement was going on and which his Whitehouse DID NOTHING! Don't forget his most famous lie, "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

And given that Hillary's campaign is now being looked at as the source of the dossier that was full of lies and much of the blame for the lies regarding Trump and for which lies were told to the FISA court to get approval for spying on the Trump campaign, you really think she was any better than Donald Trump?

What this whole political fiasco boils down to is just an attempt at a political coup in American politics.

Here goes politic again as usual. I stated I was not going to deal with it because it has been shown the conflict between the two parties. I will repeat what I said there is no President that have acted out of character as Trump has. President is a title, his character has been consistent throughout his life. Yes, I was very clear about those including SDA who voted for someone who hates and put down people of color. How can you say you love someone if you hate your brother? I am not dealing with parties, I am dealing with people who say they follow THE MOST HIGH! Politic is not my concern hatred is! We want to wrap everything around the political parties when both have done things wrong!

Who quacks like a duck is YOU-prejudice and hatred! You tried to sugar coat it over the political dismay today when I stop that message a long time ago! Those who love their brother regardless of their color take a stand! Color as Wander and I agree includes Japheth children. Noah had three sons and we all are related and all should love one another PERIOD! Now quack that Photodude and stopped hiding under the political mess! I am here to talk about why we can't admit the signs of prophecy is for this very reason. The reason is you, who will turn the truth into a lie! You always try to make like some type of competition between me and you and it is not! Politic will not take anyone to Heaven! But as the Bible says to love one another and sad we have a leader who does not show it at all. We must call sin out and you just don't like it and that is between you and THE HOLY SPIRIT!

Blessings!

[stinsonmarri]

On 5/19/2019 at 8:10 PM, B/W Photodude said:

This is the problem with discussions on internet forums in black & white. If I was having the same discussion with you in person, you would know that I disagree with you, but that also I am not insulting you. In black & white you miss the largest part of communication known as non-verbal communication. 

 You may think I am insulting you, but you also come across as being insulting yourself. And we all have high mountains to climb. There is a reason why they are there.

So, don't be hating on Trump supporters. The last election was dismal on so many levels regarding who was available to capture the publics attention. It is said that people are so used to Republicans showing up in golfing clothes with no heart for the struggle. Dems just aren't used to someone showing up with brass knuckles to get things done!

Donald Trump has a long track record in his life of helping unfortunate people in tough situations. And he does not deserve the treatment he gets, especially from Christians.

First of all, I don't hate anyone and you have never seen anything I wrote to say that I did. I don't even hate Trump. What I hate is his character! What I hate is people character who say they love YAHSHUA but hate me because of the color of my skin. I didn't ask to be born this color, but I am proud to be Black as you should be proud to be the color YAHWEH made you! If you want to believe a false view of Donald Trump tract record then ok! But years ago records show his record before he became president. Record also shows how he treated Black people in a court case that he lost also! Trump has not changed and that's why the prejudice folks have come out of hiding and again people who pretended to love showed theirs as well! I will stick to his character that is against YAHSHUA'S Law, nothing else!

Blessings!

[Aliensanctuary]

The Dark Day of early Adventism sounds more like exaggeration, but, we weren't there to verify the event.

A black sun would of course mean something comes between it and this planet. We see a few moments of semidarkness during solar eclipses every so often. If something larger or closer that the moon eclipses the sun, the duration would, of course be longer.

A red moon might be much more extreme than the reddish tint we see before and after lunar eclipses. One possible cause might be a layer of ash in the upper atmosphere.

Stars falling would most likely be a meteor shower, only with far more larger particles than just sand.

These events, the black sun, the red moon, the stars falling from the sky, and a massive earthquake are events that will occur during the Great Day of YHVH, when everything changes for life on Earth. That's when mens' hearts will be failing from fear and they will crawl into rocky holes to hide from the face of the Almighty One.

[B/W Photodude]

10 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

First of all, I don't hate anyone and you have never seen anything I wrote to say that I did. I don't even hate Trump. What I hate is his character! What I hate is people character who say they love YAHSHUA but hate me because of the color of my skin. I didn't ask to be born this color, but I am proud to be Black as you should be proud to be the color YAHWEH made you! If you want to believe a false view of Donald Trump tract record then ok!

Blessings!

I gave you an "out" to desist from this continuing "lava flow" of hate, but did you take it? No!

You do not even know Trump, but you persist in the hating on him.

Blessings are rather hollow under the circumstances

[stinsonmarri]

Just now, B/W Photodude said:

I gave you an "out" to desist from this continuing "lava flow" of hate, but did you take it? No!

You do not even know Trump, but you persist in the hating on him.

Blessings are rather hollow under the circumstances

But you do! When have you met him and being to his home? You truly don't even know me or my education but you feel so superior in your statement like you do! You are constantly contradicting yourself! I never said I knew Trump, if so where? What I have seen over the years his own remarks and his character. I have seen how he cheated on all three of his wives. I have seen how he loves to be surrounded by the Playboy crowd, especially the women. I knew he had lost business and don't pay others which include Banks and lawyers. He cheated and would not pay White alien workers, that went to court. So much was known about him before he became President. Those who want to believe that he is great that is their choice. But the Bible says your sins will find you out! His sins are coming out to hunt him. If you love his sins then you need to search out your heart! 

YAHWEH does not deal will those who boast on sinning and uses the languages that he uses. There are those who do not want immigrants to come here, that their choice but is not mine. However, why would you mistreat people and especially children? This again is not politic this is mistreating people. I remember chattel slavery and now children are placed in cages like animals. These children are taken from their parents. Why mistreat human beings it would be nice if you just help send them back then to be so inhumane!!. These things are all signs just like the dark days and people turn a deaf ear to it.

You in your writing were always talking about the rabbi at the Tree of Life and what he has done in the past. You also bring up about mistreatment of others mainly to divert from the topic that is being discussed. Even now you bring up things to divert once again your agenda and not deal with the main issue. The topic is about the dark days and was it truly a sign. It was that many try to divert from accepting the Bible truth! What is happening today is also what YAHSHUA stated would be signs of HIS coming. Again, to talk about the violence like the days of Noah and prejudice was there as well. Prejudice does not have to do just with skin color, it has to do with superior and inferior period! It has to do with coveting, lying, cheating, mistreatment, stealing, lusting, killing and other inhuman acts. These things are sins and THE HOLY SPIRIT is rapidly moving away from the millions. Stay on topic and realize that this world all over is corrupt and YAHSHUA warned us to be prepared! My concern is to cry out loud for the abomination that's taken place. The Bible says to start with those who claim the love HIM first. Eze 9:4  That's what I am doing and parties are not the issue it is people and sin!

Prayer is needed people, be bless!