Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted June 29, 2006 Members Posted June 29, 2006 Is there really such a thing as the Book of Life? I've always had this idea about the Book of Life - that if I'm good enough, then my name gets written down by the angels. But then I screw up, and God's watching, and He uses a big eraser and my name gets wiped out. But then somehow I manage to get back in the Book, but then mess up again and it gets erased again. And on and on it goes. <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Do you think there's really a Book of Life in heaven? <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted June 29, 2006 Moderators Posted June 29, 2006 The Bible talks about a real Sanctuary in Heaven, upon which the Tabernacle in the time of the Children of Israel was modeled. Does the fact that the Bible talks about a real Sanctuary in Heaven mean that the Heavenly one is built of materials similar to that of the Children of Israel, of of modern day materials such as bricks and mortar? The realities of eternal (Heavenly)life are beyond the capability of us to understand. God can only communicate those realities to us in terms that we understand. That may include talking about books. The facts of that reality we neither know nor experience. Does God need a physical book in Heaven? Quote Gregory
Robert Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> rudywoofs said: Is there really such a thing as the Book of Life? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Does God need books? </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> I've always had this idea about the Book of Life - that if I'm good enough, then my name gets written down by the angels. But then I screw up, and God's watching, and He uses a big eraser and my name gets wiped out. But then somehow I manage to get back in the Book, but then mess up again and it gets erased again. And on and on it goes. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> You've learned that from traditional Adventism....It's called "yo-yo salvation"....It is based on legalism. Robert Quote
Dr. Shane Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> is there a REAL Book of Life in heaven? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> "I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life." Phil. 4:3 "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life" Rev. 3:5 "all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." ibid 13:8 "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is." ibid 17:8 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works... And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." ibid 20:12, 15 "and there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life." ibid 21:27 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life" ibid 22:19 [:"blue"]The Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it. [/] Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
David Koot Posted July 1, 2006 Posted July 1, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> rudywoofs said: I've always had this idea about the Book of Life - that if I'm good enough, then my name gets written down by the angels. But then I screw up, and God's watching, and He uses a big eraser and my name gets wiped out. But then somehow I manage to get back in the Book, but then mess up again and it gets erased again. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> I believe that when a person accepts Jesus as his or her Savior, the name is written in the Book of Life. The name remains there throughout the person't life. It is not added then erased etc., back and forth. The person has been adopted into the family of God. There does come a time for decisions, when the final decision is made about whom Jesus will bring home with Him. The books are opened, and a pattern emerges from the evidence, about the direction of the person's life. (Not that God needs to consult the books, because He already knows, but for the benefit of the witnessing angels, and so that there will be no question as to the basis for each person's final destiny.) Has he or she walked the talk? Has the person been serious about following Jesus? When the person is faced with choices, which way does s/he choose? It is at that point in the process that names are retained in the Book of life, while other names are dropped. In doing so, God simply ratifies the decisions which people themselves have made. Dave Quote
aldona Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> rudywoofs said: Is there really such a thing as the Book of Life? I've always had this idea about the Book of Life - that if I'm good enough, then my name gets written down by the angels. But then I screw up, and God's watching, and He uses a big eraser and my name gets wiped out. But then somehow I manage to get back in the Book, but then mess up again and it gets erased again. And on and on it goes. <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Do you think there's really a Book of Life in heaven? <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> If the Bible was being written today, maybe the writer(s) would be inspired to use a different metaphor...perhaps the Database of Life, or something like that. aldona Quote www.asrc.org.au (Asylum Seeker Resource Centre, Melbourne)Helping over 2000 refugees & asylum seekers each monthIMSLP/Petrucci Music LibraryThe Public Domain Music Score Library - Free Sheet Music DownloadsLooking for classical sheet music? Try IMSLP first!
Moderators Gerr Posted July 5, 2006 Moderators Posted July 5, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> rudywoofs said: Is there really such a thing as the Book of Life? I've always had this idea about the Book of Life - that if I'm good enough, then my name gets written down by the angels. But then I screw up, and God's watching, and He uses a big eraser and my name gets wiped out. But then somehow I manage to get back in the Book, but then mess up again and it gets erased again. And on and on it goes. <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Do you think there's really a Book of Life in heaven? <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> [:"blue"]In terms of what we know today, with videotapes & CDs & DVDs & holography, it is probably best to understand the "books" as some form of a record. Since we are all born as "children of wrath", names are written in the book of life at the time one declares belief & allegiance to Christ, not when one start doing good works. The final confirmation or dropping of names take place during the pre-advent judgment. No yo-yo writing and erasing, writing and erasing of names, but people do change their minds - for or against Christ. While God is loving and gracious, He is also a God of justice and thus interested also in the legal process.[/] Gerry Quote
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted July 5, 2006 Author Members Posted July 5, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> The final confirmation or dropping of names take place during the pre-advent judgment. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Pre-advent judgment? Is that aka the Investigative judgment? If that's so, then some names have already been dropped? []http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/Rudywoofs/icon_confused.gif[/] Man, I don't know... the whole judgment thing seems like a waste of time. If Christ covers someone's sins with His righteousness, then what is there to judge? If He doesn't, then by default - because nobody is good enough by themselves, they are condemned. What is there to judge? Geez...I must be missing something somewhere.. <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 Hi Rudywoofs! Love the name darlink! if u look at Rev 21:12 U see more than one book! the books were opened... and the book of Life was opened! this is the Book that nobody can open! there were Seven Seals around it! John the Revelator litterly fell apart in heaven when he saw the importance of the book and nobody could open it. It was SEALED! So now its finally opened.. and everyone will be astounded seeing what it actually says! Before all of creation was ever created the TRINITY that was One UNION.. like marriage or family or whatever.. They agreed that they would create other life beings. Who are mortal. They would share all they have with them. Which BTW takes more than eterity to ever hope to get a glimpse of! Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 The creation firsts need a nice hood/pad/nest/galaxy/entire universe and all the dimensions. The creation also need somewhat of Who God is which is ever unfolding to all creation. So ..... in their unexplained Wisdom the original Family ,Who is Fully all that it is in each One of the THREE, asigned (if u will) the duties and all those particular perogitives to each other They had all the powers and perogatives of being Self Existant. All THREE are Mighty Glorious Awful Majestical God Before any creation they created the universe first(I could be wrong about the stated chicken or egg thang but for the sake of the story go with me on this.) and somehow designated the roles of each Person. One would represent the Glorius terriable majesty and figure head-- 1. The Father God One would be the creative agent as well as Captain of the Messengers who ran Heaven and the all the angels and such... messaging and whatnot to the limitless vast. and later will be reveiled as SAVIOR and equal to GOD. What all of creation would Know as-- 2. The Son God and ONE would enshrine all the hearts that Trust HIM and be Omnipresent(everywhere at once-imagine that) and underconsience voice and FORCE(power) who the Bible gives a HE pronoun to-- 3>The Holy Spirit God All three has all -but for the sake of creation it showed Their Own GLORY in all The Family to be outlined in Three to us.(i got a headache thinking of that one- dont ask!) Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 the creation would also have intelligence and comprehensions and self awarness! the creation would also have feelings and thoughts and wills. They can pretty do anything they want.. even though they arent Self Exisistent! the creation relys on the Original God Family the creation also doesnt understand everything. God takes His time but He does Show peice by peice. the creation also had to have rules/laws/boundries/nono's so the new Extended Family can all live together in peace. Cause breaking one of the little nono's would unleash somethaing that isnt that pretty but kinda grows on ya till it fills the entire universe. soooo... they wrote the plan out and executed it as the universe ticks on. the Plan is written out in the - Book of Life Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 The Book of Life was written before there was anything made- it says in great Exact detail everything that has happened since creation first begun.. it records Glory and Wonders of everything being made- all the Angels all the vast outer reaches all the planets all the beings of all shapes and sizes and colors and sexual preferences(just kiddin) all the splendors of creation all the colors all the songs all the glories EVERTHING is written down in the Book of LIFE Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 including all the sins all the woes all the sick addictions all the pain all the misery and all the death of many in its creation Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 all the pains all the hurts all the parking tickets all of it The Book of LIFE leaves nothing out! The book of LIFE will show two things Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 1. God new that sin would happen but He let happen for a time (drop in the bucket - ETERNITY) for the security of the entire universe for eternity. HE KNEW that it would be inevitable that sin would arise if He gives freedom of choice to beings. It was gonna Happen. and God KNEW in His Wisdom that the darn SIN will raise its ugly head! So the TRINITY in essence Mapped out a PLAN .. so SIN will never ever ,I do mean EVER, raise its head again in all of eternity. 2. GOD provided a Way Out! Even though God knew the beginning and the end He still chose us out of His LOVE! in the first one u see God having all the perogatives as GOD and in the second one u see God not choosing the easy way out. God could have manipulated any and all His beings to save HimSELF and eventually His SON. It could have ended in heaven and God wouldnt have to go thru this again EVER. So even tho GOD with all His PEROGATIVES in the vastness of His Riches and Glory and Rightousness!!!! chose an ugly terribale foul way to end the problem. earth! and its ugly God did not force HIMSELF upon us.. but Always Called us to trust HIM cause all that is God cannot be shared in all eternity so we Trust HIM anyway. . that concept was given to Lucifer. Michael told Lucifer to trust GOD even though Lucifer wasnt satisfied and still had bothersome questions. Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 if Satan hadnt committed the unpardinable sin in Heaven ..Lucifer would have just held his murmurings and Trusted the Gloriouse Awful Majesty in UnApproachable LIGHT Creator(maybe the Father concept was just for us earthlings) and be content and know that his questions will be answered in time maybe. But will not reject GOD. Lucifer will Trust! and Love HIM for HE is WORTHY! this book would not have to be written cause there is no Judgement Day if sin never formed! Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 So at the end of the thousand years all of creation(all CREATION) will see the Book that noone could open or read for past eons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and it will show a bigger picture of GOD that all of creation never fully(in all of its layers) had. and the picture gets bigger and bigger and BIGGER as Eternity rolls and roll and... rolls Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 .... and rolls Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 anyhoo.. thats my idea of it all.. I ask for any impute good bad or indifferent Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 read my whole thing again! Scroll up please! <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/tongue1.gif" alt="" /> it needs nourishing by the masses <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/Group.gif" alt="" /> Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 and Rudywoofs darlink?... is that Hungariun? just asking Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Dr. Shane Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 I guess since the whole world will be destroyed when Christ returns, and that will include the Internet infrastructure, the Book of Life isn't going to be a cyberbook. I am not sure that all of creatioin can read cyberbooks anyway. Cyber space isn't actually consider part of creation, is it? <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/sorry.gif" alt="" /> Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted July 6, 2006 Author Members Posted July 6, 2006 []http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/Rudywoofs/icon_eek.gif[/] Why do I feel like I've just strolled onto the set of Green Acres meets StarTrek? Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 lol <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/laughhard.gif" alt="" /> think.... Great Contraversy (the last Chapter) meets Tammie Faye(christian) who then meets Zsa Zsa Gabor(glamore beauty) <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/catfight.gif" alt="" /> Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Parade Orange Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 Rudywoofs! what do u think of the picture I have painted with my words. I hope they will illuminate Gods character Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
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