Real Live Communications with God

[Gail]

I'm still not convinced

[Raphael]

Right, explanations on that matter were too brief. When you start these shortcut prayers, you usually would experience an increasing or rising form of intensity of sensation. This rise or increase will not last but will end in a flat line as opposed to the increase or rise. You could probably resemble that to your stereo’s volume that you could increase till it’s max volume and your stereo’s volume is max constant at that level, flat line. It is just an illustrative tool to help clarify.

The absence of something you never knew meant that you were utterly never aware of the presence of something till you were deprived of it. You could say that this thing had its own cloaking deceptive guise and had the most deliberate intentions not to be revealed.

God bless you,

Raphael

[cricket]

SEMANTIC SATIATION AND COGNITIVE DYNAMICS

The experience of "flat lining" is a psychological phenomenon that has been widely documented. It is not a supernatural phenomenon, nor a spiritual awakening of any sort. Currently, the medical field terms this phenomenon "Semantic Satiation." Previously, the experience was simply termed "Lapse of Meaning."

It is interesting to note that some psychiatrists have attempted to use this method to modify behavior of psychologically disturbed individuals.

[Raphael]

Thanks Coniuge Reale. Your semantic satiations have been quite mind filling.. but I believe that what I meant by the termed flat lining was not a loss of meaning or loss of something or anything rather, it is a constant maintained reply form at it constant in tensed peak. The definition of semantic satiation is the moment you loose meaning or simply, loose concentration as implied in your provided link. This is not of the everyday occurrence that you are describing, like loosing one’s concentration.. this is experiencing real and vivid individually unique experiences resulting from an involved officiating name, the name of the Son of God. By now many must have already learned the power involving that name in new dimensions or spheres of thought and experience.

I did receive responses terming this form of prayer exercise to be a certain form of mind answer, acquiring answers or response forms from one’s own brain or self, impressing the idea of the unlikely ness of responses from intelligences beyond or outside us. I have also met those who in the faces of most vivid and real manifestations of supernatural power who simply concluded that people do have this unique powers or abilities and need not assigned them to the activities or presence of invisible intelligences.

I remember in EGW’s writing stating that God will never remove the ample opportunity for doubt. I said ample because I believe it to be 50%, to make things fair, of course. Many God public communications or public relation incidences in the bible were privately experienced in the midst of public. Like Stephan, the first martyr and many others. One could have easily dismissed the experience based simply because others were not experiencing or witnessing it.

Noah and the perishing pre flood population had stark differing sensation of realities. The first knew and felt and realized in full extent that the world was ending while the other group felt that the world would go on forever. It is the matter of which reality we are in continually. The first reality can strike one’s mind in the beginning to be mad and lost while the second may be more assuring due to its easier accessibility to find more companions or people going on there ways undisturbed and unalarmed and feel assured.. Realities are states of minds and are the driving force behind every act. As I have mentioned earlier that one may apprehend but may not emotionally grasp. It may even require time in the courses of action to acquire a certain reality realization. Request to God for this full reality realization sensation or awareness form.

God bless you,

Raphael

[Raphael]

Hai everyone,

I would like to add to this sort of year old topic, an idea that hopefully may bring delight.

So far, I have entered 8 samples above as sample guidelines, so I believe, those who have perhaps read this all year long or them that may have acquired the gist of it, need not be bothered by details already previously covered.

So the superb idea is this, to ask God for you to be able to see and witnessed clearly all angels (you can add "through their guises", coz many, except for the "good guys," cloak themselves looking like something or someone else ) or all invisible beings around you ... say .. 100 meters around you? Well the meters are up you, you may try kilometers instead but probably that would be too far to see... Remember that you won't be seeing with your physical eyes, you even would still see with your eyes closed but go through the experience first to understand.

And for very serious and official statement purposes ... this explained notion is purposed to bolster one's faith and belief in the reality of God and His invisible (to most) ministries. And hopefully, may eradicate atheism or disbelief in God the Almighty.

Thanks to God and to everyone.. I have been experiencing significant developments every 7 months since releasing this knowledge here at clubadventist. This month is my 2nd 7th month, upon where I am going through another phase ... sorry not to be able to elaborate coz I feel it too private. I just came to a realization of this an hour ago after relating this writings to a friend.

You know, the truth and even truthful people have always been likened to precious stones or gems.. their rarity .. their extreme unlikeliness of easy discovery .. their extreme difficulty of formation and upon being taken or founded by humans. I find it to be so true, applying to absolutely everything. The grand design was always through that grinding, sweating, even torturing process. And yes, I remember the challenge was not exactly of strength but of not fainting.. though they may be related..

Anyway, Happy Sabbath and keep up that posture of not fainting.

God bless,

Raphael

1:00 am, Jakarta

[Raphael]

Hello again,

I would like to express my incomprehension as to why that up to this moment no one has raise the topic on "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne. Is it because everyone feels alright about it and finds nothing to exchange upon? Well, I would like to state that The Secret is very Christian in nature and for the first time, it has been able to make me understand a 'form of faith'. I said 'a form' meaning that there may be things in the future that I may stumble upon that I may have never understood clearly.

I watched the DVD film version of The Secret only once and at a very exhausted and drowsy state but probably due to my unique background of sorts I immediately was able to grasp its key elements which one would never find well explained in its book, neither the film. The Secret is basically about believing that you have received. It sounds so simple and so familiar to our Christian ears since it was Christ's sayings Himself. But how to do it, implement it or experience it, is left rather undecipherable.

The Secret teaches us to believe that we have received while Christ teaches us to ask or pray and then believe that we have recieved, not much of a difference, right? I think it was not really intended that way but since the book was for the common public, then probably the prayer part was then omitted. But any way, what I wanted to say is that this Secret works and is most fitting to be practiced with the shortcut prayers... Believing that your prayer are received, right?

First we have to 'experiment' (I hope this term is not too repulsive to many ears) with things that we can immediately feel or experience, such as health .. or happiness .. or love. Money or good or high quality things come in processes as already mentioned in the film and book. So here is how you do it...

Say in your heart that all your illness and and deceases are always cured and that your health is always at its best state. Digest the meaning of the words and do not cook or drive or do something else while doing this 'first' experiments. After digesting well the meaning of the words which have become your own words then say in your heart that 'it has happened'... again and again, and then you can say that it has 'so' happened that you can forget about it (Just compounding the intensity of the mindset reality, and ofcourse 'do not forget'.) You can also add to the mind argument that it is 'so' done that there is nothing else you can do about it anymore ... cos it done ... and feel the affecting currents upon your body. I call this the convincing phase, just to be convinced that there is something working..

You can do the same the thing with happiness .. you can say I am always happy or filled with happiness and continue the pattern above. You can also say I am never lacking in love and am always most abounding in it... then the above pattern. When satisfyingly convinced you can proceed to things that you can not immediately feel or experience like money or the most beautiful girl or the richest man which will have to undergo processes from improving your self to become fitting to your request and so forth..

This is the part that is not well deciphered in the film or book of The Secret. No need of visualizations, actually... but one still needs to read or watch the film because I am not covering everything already documented in the book and film.

God Bless you,

Raphael

[Raphael]

Hai,

I would like add something that may be of further interest. Now, that you have been able to witness angels and etc.. ask that you may witness the heaven prepared for you above. From accounts of others there will be places where you will be blocked from seeing .. just follow on and be a graceful guest. Don't forget to want to know how the air and temperatures there would feel, the tree of good & evil and the river of life (can you find ripples upon its surface..).. these are just among others that you can think of in your mind. You also might be interested in the difference of forest that are free from thistles and thorns which may be rather incomprehensible until witnessing them. You can try to find large bodies of waters like we have here on earth.. also the architect of constructions .. how it fits into the architectural landscape. If you happen to witness a stream or body of water (the waters are naturally crystal clear), try looking into its bottom, upon its stones.. at closer look it should turn spectacular.. try paying attention to details.. the flowers and creatures.. can you feel their feelings and their emotions, try to.. I hope someone with great graphic talents may be able to come up with reproductions of the sights..

Have a great time, God be with you and may this be inspirational, strengthening and uplifting to you,

Raphael

[Raphael]

Hi again,

I would like to share some discoveries that I hope may be useful for others.

At times, I often use the short cut prayers to decipher things that may not be able to be described in words, such as feelings, emotions, emotional attitudes and etc. With the help of short cut prayers I am able to simulate and understand them. But lately I found out a more efficient way in this consultative manner, that is by the use of faith, believing that you have received. Ofcourse this is always intertwined with prayers perhaps even unconsciously. For example when in a certain awkward situation where I may not know how to behave correctly then 'I believed' that it has happened that "I already know how to behave and know what to do in relation to this situation," immediately I can feel its affects, faster and without concentration. Or I may just simply want to know how a true 'default' Christian happiness feels.. for instance.

Prayers need concentration that surrounding, interacting people may sense which may become a distraction to them. Say, you are in a professional business dialogue.. this becomes not only distracting but even perhaps disturbing to the business meeting atmosphere. Maybe that's why prayer is counseled to be 'concealed'. I suppose faith does not need concentration because you are placing yourself in a position where you believe that what you want has already been given where it becomes more of a mental focus thing rather than the 'common' concentration. In other words, I found it to be also useful as an alternative source of consultation.

Certainly, the main function of faith is to bring about things that we pray and Christianly hope for but then it was quite a surprise when I found other uses of it.

God bless,

Raphael

[Raphael]

Hi once more,

I would like to add to another thing that I previously hesitated upon. I suppose it is the right time, now.

When one witnesses the unveiling of the unseen beings, specifically upon the looks of a human being (these applies to the looks of any creature from snakes to hideous apparitions & etc), lets say, a former prominent figure in history or some former (deceased) individual that we or you may know.. Then try to search somewhere beyond this being if there are any others behind it. The results would be that you will witness from one to multitudes of beings behind this puppet energy. The ones without support are either the lowest ranks or the special task forces. The so called special task force are like infiltrators as opposed to brute force. The higher the importance or level of this being relates directly to the numbers behind it. Suppose you see some deity of a certain belief, where a deity would denote a high standing or level, you will find, perhaps billions behind it. At times this puppet energy is also used to cloak the real being inside (which of course is just a fallen angel) but often times the supporting legions behind it always exists as well (which denotes higher stature (and power, of course)).

All witches and wizards (of unChristian power) of capable abilities are commonly aware of these. The difference is that they (you can say, perhaps 99.99%) are not searching for the truth but for riches and something of the world.

When in battle, these supporting multitudes can reduce its size, 'uniting' into something like a small (lesser than a size of a face) black hole (without the black color and the gravitational pull), increasing their defenses to optimum but against God, His angels and God fearing people, they are defeated..

I remember a kind friend admonishing me not to deal with these (Christian beings or angels) because, he stated, that they are not of this world and that I and himself were still of this world. I was surprised at his knowledge and his use of words to describe. The truth was never as revealing as to those with capable witchcraft abilities but once again, it was not what they were in search for.

The holy angels never disguise themselves, they may at times, try to avoid detection but never mislead or lie in any form. By checking behind or beyond this beings you can somehow ascertain that they are the authentic good guys. But don't be surprised if you at times encountered the bad guys posing as good without that supporting multitude behind, looking authentic. But usually if you are a critical person you will innately feel something wrong at that moment or after.

Gods promise was 50-50, sufficient to know the truth but not to openly prove, which applies to the dark side as well.

God bless,

Raphael

[Raphael]

And if you search or looked further beyond the supporting multitudes behind a being, you will find another kind of multitude, of replacement forces, waiting and ready to replace the primary crowd. I believe they are on some sort of work shift basis. Primary multitudes or crowds often have typical uniforms (which may vary from one group to another) and or at times would even look like a community of peasants and people going on their living. It is a disguise as well (but they aren't energy puppets, well perhaps you can say in a sense that they cloak themselves to look different, somehow similar to an energy puppet with a real being inside.. but these almost always, never have a supporting group (replacements are not the same with the support or power supporting groups)), the real forms are apparent at the replacement groups.

Well at times, real forms are visible at primary groups as well, for low numbered primary multitudes, let us say below the number of ten.

Happy Grand Tourismo,

Raphael

[Raphael]

Well, to balance the views, now try with your short cut prayer requests to see earth in its galactic position, from a galaxy's perspective, and try to find the largest number or concentration of Holy Angels, where you may consult with them as well. From my sight, I find them not on or in earth but outside of earth. When found try to zoom in and or figure their numbers and also try to contrast and or compare them to the number of the fallen angels on earth.

God bless,

Raphael

[Raphael]

Hi once more,

I suppose many have had the idea to cruise the 'macro' and 'micro' universe with the help of the short cuts, well that's perfectly alright, especially if accompanied with all the right reasons.

But in cruising or zooming into things, either that be celestial bodies or microscopic things, if you really don't know what exactly you are looking for, you will be almost forever seeing unintelligent things that won't make much sense. Have you ever tried looking into a microscope without knowing the focus or magnification or whatever you may me be looking for? Did you experience a seemingly waste of time seeing things that don't make any sense? Something like that.. in comparison..

Well, when cruising or exploring, one may add the notion of wanting or needing to learn something or find something useful, then you may see more interesting things.. If you have more focus and knowledge upon what you are looking for, that would be better, say a virus, how would it look (would it look rectangular, or triangular or .. (contrast purposes)); does it have any harm to humans, if so, how, where; One needs good concentration and focus for these things. Or say, black holes, do they indeed channel away to some other dimension or instead just compound and heap into one very, extremely solid stuff or thing with certain molecular evolvements..

I personally am not a very into such things, perhaps when there is more time.. much more time..

Conclusion is, the more one knows he or she is looking for, the better..

Happy discoveries,

Raphael

[Raphael]

And while or when cruising around, for those of such great minds.. don't try imagine you're 100% there.. just limit it to observational purposes..

You don't want to really 'personally,' feel the center of the sun or the gravitational pressure of our earth's center. If you try to feel how its out in space, you won't be able to breath..

Some use the idea of remote flying cameras where they are projected on some 'hologram' screen in front of you, either way, as long as you don't try to be truthfully 'personally' intimate with freezing temperatures, evaporating (melting) degrees, squashing pressure and or all sort of uninhabitable living situations, you should not be depressing yourself, right..?

In this indirect method of observing, one can still detect and know if (wished) at safe measures and still understand (not the personal kind of knowledge of how it is to be personally scorched or squashed and etc), extreme temperatures and other extreme situations without that method of being '100%' there, experiencing it...

Using contrasting or comparison methods is another way of knowing without having to try to personally fell or touch it. Say that tables over there must have different temperatures in contrast to the floor.. or simply 'consulting' could help out. A person could know whether a baby was having a fever (just by looking), using the contrasting methods, even without having to consult or request..

I believe there are automatic shutdowns or failsafes, when in such 'trying' situations.. the person simply loses concentration and therefore breaks the connection away, automatically..

Ofcourse, the heaven that is prepared above is entirely different, its not only very habitable but as the word heaven would imply.. its the best place to stay and live. So trying to really feel with that 100% style is indeed the best way to better understand that place..

Happy travels,

Raphael

[John317]

I

...I remember hearing of American SDA celebration churches practicing things that are not customary to the SDA mainstream but cannot be soundly denounced doctrinally unbiblical.

Once again, I am explaining again that incantations or chanting go on for lengthy time durations designed to lower one’s consciousness to the point that something may gain possession of the alleged chanter. Here it is of the contrary, because you need to muster all of your attention to be able to converse with someone, not be possessed by something.

....

Could you explain your use of "incantations"?

You are using a word that means:

incantation

noun

a series of words said as a magic spell or charm : an incantation to raise the dead.

• the use of such words : there was no magic in such incantation | incantations of old slogans.

DERIVATIVES

incantatory/ adjective

ORIGIN late Middle English : via Old French from late Latin incantatio(n-), from incantare ‘chant, bewitch’ (see incant ).

[Raphael]

Well, for myself.. I am not really a sufficed knowledgeable certified scientist.. but lets say, when I look at the sun including its insides, I can see sort of molecular/ atomic reactions going through and somehow can get the gist of how high temperatures would be needed for such events to occur.. I really would need to get a PhD in many fields.. to be able to identify everything I see.. and won't really know, what I would be looking for.. lol

God bless,

Raphael

[Raphael]

Encarta Dictionary: English (North America)

Incantation (noun)

1. Use of supposedly magic words

The ritual chanting or use of supposedly magic words

2. Set of supposedly magic words

A set of words spoken or chanted as a supposedly magic spell

..just was thinking of arguments that could or would be against the 'short cuts.'..

I have already explained in earlier posts in this thread. Please, kindly refer to them. Thanks.

Best,

Raphael

[Raphael]

Ok, lightning struck and I suddenly had this 'dazzling' idea to find that fusion story thing and turns out its not 'all over' the sun but only at its center.. with light streams towards the poles and equator-wise, if that was the sun's equator.. Sorry to be unwilling to do too much work.. kind of lazy at the moment.. (I'm sure they're the sun poles..) do I get a PhD now? Lol..

Best,

Rasphael

[Raphael]

From not knowing where to go or what to find to 'knowing' is an incredible change or difference.. isn't? (..My not knowing to what to learn or know about the sun then to suddenly acquiring 'one'...)

Best,

Raphael

[Raphael]

I usually try to get a sort of global or bird's eye view of an idea then, I try to fit it with the 'apparent.'

If it was with genetics or that periodical table of elements ('looking' at that 'table of elements' can be rather personally discomforting, upon its radioactive sections but then after that you may 'want to see' in a harmless manner and yet still see the streaming pathways of the radioactivities), I perhaps would try to get the 'bird's eye view of the 'sorted' thing involved.. then things would appear in new meanings but still in its 'overall pattern.' The fusion was in the the 'overall pattern' called the sun. From there, one could developed or follow up the leads, further..

I am a loss when it comes to minute particles like the element (atomic or molecule level) construction of things

(and many other things).. would not know how to put them in one big intelligent picture in my mind, where then I could search for 'patterns'..

Searching or studying anything or everything encountered may take a trillion fold of a life time to spend and finish, for me just a few seconds of that would already bore me.. that's why I have to come up with a sensible pattern that makes sense in my mind first..

Hope this is a helpful idea..

Best,

Raphael

[Raphael]

why a trillion fold of a lifetime? Because instead of the ordinary 'linear' dimension of witnessing with one's naked eyes, one would be traversing from microscopic scales of minute particles to colossal magnitudes of celestial bodies.. (.. just clarifying a bit more ..)

Best,

Raphael

[skyblue888]

If there is such a thing as a "short-cut" prayer, here are two which certainly could be seen and understood as such:

"Lord, I have no goodness or merit within whereby I may claim salvation but I present before You the merits of the all-atoning blood of the spotless Lamb of God. This is my only plea." Faith and Works,106.

"Lord, we had devised for ourselves many useless follies, but You have placed Your word before me like a torch, and you have touched my heart, in order that I may hold in abomination all other merits save those of Jesus." Calvin, The Great Controversy, 221.

Both of these two statements represent the prayer of faith for "Faith is the condition upon which God has seen fit to promise pardon to sinners, not that there is any virtue in faith whereby salvation is merited, but because faith can lay hold of the merits of Christ, the remedy provided for sin... The only way the sinner can attain to righteousness is through faith. By faith He can bring to God the merits of Christ."

"Righteousness is love and love is the light and the life of God." Mount of Blessing, 18.

"You want to be like little children, hanging upon the merits of a crucified and risen Savior. Then you will be fortified. How? The angels of God will be around you as a wall of fire, the righteousness of Christ will go before you and the glory of God will be your rearward." Ms,9, 1891.

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