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The authority of Ellen White...
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If Worship on Sunday is wrong, then why do SDA rent their churches to Traditional Christian?
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I have no doubt there love of the Torah and the Tehillim! Mr. Goldberg, my teacher, also loved to study the book of Esther. Daniel was new to him. He was enthralled by the story of the fiery furnace. When the Hebrews said "~ Whether God saves us or not, there is no way we are going to bow to your image," Mr. Goldberg was deeply moved by that statement, as we all should be.2 points -
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Boarding house in Ukraine damaged by drone attack
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Four drones hit the two main buildings of the Desna Boarding House in Radychiv, Ukraine. The attack occurred at 5:50 am on July 24, 2026. At the time of the attack, there were 15 personnel on the property. The building caught fire as a result of a drone attack, according to Oleksandr Seliverstiv, head of the Novhorod-Siversk Regional Military Administration, via Facebook. Photos: Denys Borodyuk, Suspilne Chernihiv, State Emergency Service, Oleksandr SeliverstovAccording to Denys Borodyuk, director of Desna, there were no casualties, and utilities are working at this time. The boarding house has not been functioning since the beginning of 2022. Desna Boarding House operated as a health and wellness retreat and is a partner institution of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Ukraine is being destroyed, day by day. ------------------------------------------------------------- Poland has retirement buildings for Adventists, similar to the Methodist in USA.1 point -
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Great Photo Shots!
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🌅 Parting shots: San Sebastián shines Photo: Jeff Turner 🌊 Morning blue gives way to golden light over San Sebastián's harbor in Spain's Basque Country. Thanks to reader Jeff Turner of Little Washington, Va., for sending these along. Photo: Jeff Turner1 point -
The authority of Ellen White...
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This isn't what Ellen White taught. Ellen taught that the Divine and human natures were "blended" (AKA mixed) and that Michael the archangel risked his future (and continued) existence on the outcome of the "conflict" subsequent to incarnating on the planet's surface.1 point -
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The authority of Ellen White...
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Yes, God can not sin.1 point -
Washington Adventist University Honors College Responds to Religious Liberty Commission Report
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Professors Nicholas Miller and Jonathan Scriven at Washington Adventist University Honors College Center for Law and Public Policy have issued their response to the Presidential Religious Liberty Commission… The post Washington Adventist University Honors College Responds to Religious Liberty Commission Report appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
Adventist view on the Nature of Christ
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Christ had to do as we must do or there was no point in His coming. Here is more on this .. Christ's perfect humanity is the same that man may have through connection with Christ. As God, Christ could not be tempted any more than He was not tempted from His allegiance in heaven. But as Christ humbled Himself to the nature of man, He could be tempted. He had not taken on Him even the nature of the angels, but humanity, perfectly identical with our own nature, except without the taint of sin. A human body, a human mind, with all the peculiar properties, He was bone, brain, and muscle. A man of our flesh, He was compassed with the weakness of humanity. The circumstances of His life were of that character that He was exposed to all the inconveniences that belong to men, not in wealth, not in ease, but in poverty and want and humiliation. He breathed the very air man must breathe. He trod our earth as man. He had reason, conscience, memory, will, and affections of the human soul which was united with His divine nature. Our Lord was tempted as man is tempted. He was capable of yielding to temptations, as are human beings. His finite nature was pure and spotless, but the divine nature that led Him to say to Philip, "He that hath seen Me hath seen the Father" also, was not humanized; neither was humanity deified by the blending or union of the two natures; each retained its essential character and properties. But here we must not become in our ideas common and earthly, and in our perverted ideas we must not think that the liability of Christ to yield to Satan's temptations degraded His humanity and He possessed the same sinful, corrupt propensities as man. The divine nature, combined with the human, made Him capable of yielding to Satan's temptations. Here the test to Christ was far greater than that of Adam and Eve, for Christ took our nature, fallen but not corrupted, and would not be corrupted unless He received the words of Satan in the place of the words of God. To suppose He was not capable of yielding to temptation places Him where He cannot be a perfect example for man, and the force and the power of this part of Christ's humiliation, which is the most eventful, is no instruction or help to human beings. But the facts of this history are not fable, but a living, acting, experience. [To deny this] would rob Jesus of His greatest glory--allegiance to God--which enshrouded Him as a garment in this world on the field of battle with the relentless foe, and He is not reckoned with the transgressor. He descended in His humiliation to be tempted as man would be tempted, and His nature was that of man, capable of yielding to temptation. His very purity and holiness were assailed by a fallen foe, the very one that became corrupted and then was ejected from heaven. How deeply and keenly must Christ have felt this humiliation."1 point -
Ronald Lason Dies
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On August 3, 2026, Dr. Ronald Lawson PhD, died. He was a con traversal figure in Adventism, He was seldom welcomed and often dismissed Yet throughout it all he remained on the far distant edge of this Church. As a historian/sociologist he once traveled the world interviewing some 4,500 SDA members as to their understanding and relationship to Adventism. His research was published in the scholarly journals. The following Spectrum provides more information on his life https://spectrummagazine.org/news/ronald-lawson-trailblazing-gay-adventist-sociologist-scholar-and-advocate-dies-at-86/ It should be clearly stated that I differed with his understanding of certain Biblical issues. In those areas my understanding conforms to main-line Adventism. I also agree with an application of those beliefs that demonstrates grace rather than legalism. I once asked him to evaluate my understanding of certain aspects of SDAs living in Germany under Hitler, In his response he clearly informed me that my suggestion totally lacked historical evidence. With the announcement of his death, many have posted on the Internet their thoughts as to how he will spend eternity. I do not consider this to be either helpful or Christian. I ask that such not be posted here in Club Adventist. Sometimes Adventists point to scandals in other Christian groups an ignore that such has happened in Adventism. One such involving the highest levels of Adventism occurred while I was living in Denver. I am well aware of it. Dr. Lawson wrote a 43-page report of it which is available on the Internet, I consider it to be just, accurate and helpful. Those with probably a superficial knowledge of Dr, Lawson will probably remember him as a co-founder of SDA Kinship. The General Conference filed a lawsuit requesting that Kinship be banned from using the trademarked name Adventist The GC was represented by a well qualified legal team and expected an easy victory. The G/c team was matched by the pro bono team that defended Kinship, The following article informs as to that litigation. https://ronaldlawson.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/kinship-goes-to-trial.pdf The final decision of the Court was definitive:: The GC could not prevent the use by Kinship of the word Adventist./ It also opened that use by others in other ways1 point -
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Ronald Lawson - SDA Kinship
Asia Joe reacted to Hanseng for a topic
I respect what Ron Lawson accomplished as a sociologist. He had a career that some might call illustrious. He is the one most often credited[?] with Kinship's founding; however, a Spectrum or Kinship article, some time back, rightly acknowledged the roll Ben Pickell played in Kinship's founding. Ben was not an SDA when he placed an ad in a gay magazine inviting gay SDA to contact him. Since his connection to Adventism is somewhat sordid, likely a slick PR move for Kinship to upplay Ron Lawson. He had deep SDA ties.1 point -
Great Photo Shots!
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🦌 Parting shot: Antler alert Photo: Sam Trizza Reader Sam Trizza of Bentonville, Ark., shares scenes from a morning hike yesterday up Handies Peak, a mountain rising above 14,000 feet near Lake City, Colo. Trizza, her sister Cate Bowman and brother-in-law Brett Bowman of Houston took the American Basin rout, catching their shadows across the terrain. They also caught two antlered grazers peeking over a ridge. Photo: Sam Trizza1 point -
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Why was 'Tartarus' used?
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Normally, in the Bible, Jesus, as well as the disciples, simply cast the demon out. If we find an exception to the norm, it is wise to ask "Why the exception?" instead of turning to the exception and see how we can make this the rule. If I recall correctly, there are two exceptions to the norm. The boy with the seizures and the one or two men where the pigs ran into the sea. Fundamentalists may not be happy with my comments here, but please take for your consideration. With the boy having the seizures; Jesus says that this kind does not come out except for fasting and prayer. While I am not an expert in language, from what I've read and heard in lectures from those who understand the language, the idea of fasting and prayer can be understood as say a doctor or scientist who is prayerfully studying and experimenting and so focused on their research that they often forget to eat and sleep. So could this boy simply have had a physical condition that gave seizures, and while Jesus could do the physical healing, that he was telling his disciples that this is not simply demons, but something that they really need to study to discover the cause and develop a cure? The second exception is the one or two men where the pigs ran into the sea. Ok, I confess that their breaking the chains is something that may indicate traditional demons. However, a couple of things to keep in mind, with another suggestion if you bear with me. This man/These men were pagans. He/They were gentiles. They lived in a Greek City State set up from the conquests of Greece to show people in the rest of the world how wonderful Greek life is to encourage the people living in the area to not only be Greek subjects by conquest, but to change their lives and embrace Greece life and thought in total. (The idea of a city set on a hill, but instead of a Christian faith, these cities were to draw everyone to Greece.) There were 10 of these cities just east of the Jordan in the hills. It would have been to one of these 10 cities that would have been the "far country" for the Prodigal Son went. This man/These men would have known little of the Jews who lived in small Jewish communities across the lake. So first of all, Jesus needed to work with the man/men, and their pagan/gentile/Greek background. This man/These men living in the Greek City State probably were raised from childhood in how special it was to be Greek and how they were to be examples for all the non-Greeks living around them of how wonderful Greek life and thought are. Yet, for some reason, this missionary mindset made them uncomfortable. Also, may I also wonder if he/they may have also suffered from what we call mental illness. Jesus did what he did to work with these people who were ignorant of the Bible and ignorant of Judaism. Even if they had traditional demons Jesus still needed to work with how this man/these men are. And if it is just the suffering in them suppose to be showing how wonderful Greek life is, and they just are uncomfortable with this idea, and/or mental illness; Jesus can heal the mind, but they might from time to time start thinking things that could lead back to problems. Seeing the pigs run into the sea and drown is always a reminder that if they start thinking the wrong way that they remember the pigs and they choose against the bad thought they were about to think. Jesus also needed to learn where these men were coming from, remembering they were getting views about the demonic not from the Bible and/or Judaism, but from a pagan background. Jesus could not make the same assumptions about the cause of this/these men's sufferings as he could in the Jewish communities. Jesus needed to do what was appropriate for their pagan/Greek background. And this personal care was important as this/these people born and raised to be missionaries of Greek life and thought, ended up becoming the first Christian missionaries to the gentiles.1 point -
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John Quincy Adams, Abraham Lincoln and an Argument Neither Man Lived to See Settled
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By Michael Peabody Every American schoolchild used to learn how John Quincy Adams died, back when schools still taught that kind of thing. Most of what they were… The post John Quincy Adams, Abraham Lincoln and an Argument Neither Man Lived to See Settled appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
The Counterfeit Confessional: What the Netflix Firing Teaches Us About the Sanctity of True Privilege
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(This article addresses allegations raised in reporting surrounding recently-filed litigation. This case will be addressed on both sides in more detail in the courts. This does not constitute… The post The Counterfeit Confessional: What the Netflix Firing Teaches Us About the Sanctity of True Privilege appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
Federal Judge Dismisses Interfaith Challenge to Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission
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A federal judge in Manhattan dismissed the lawsuit challenging President Donald Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission on July 27, 2026. Four advocacy organizations and the Rev. Paul Raushenbush claimed… The post Federal Judge Dismisses Interfaith Challenge to Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
Great Photo Shots!
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🏞️ Parting shot! Photo: Matt Lasure Speaking of otherworldly ... Reader Matt Lasure of Saint Paul, Minn., shares a "Best National Park" submission: "One of my favorite pictures, showing the alien landscape of Badlands National Park [in South Dakota]. Taken on a family trip in July 2022."1 point -
Church Fires and Vandalism Rise Across Europe and North America, Data Show
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This article includes detailed tips for churches on how to prevent fires and increase security. The post Church Fires and Vandalism Rise Across Europe and North America, Data Show appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
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Fauci’s Fifth, the Biden Pardon and the Limits of Silence
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Anthony Fauci was sworn in before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee on July 29 and delivered a short opening statement accusing the chairman of an obsession with putting him in prison. The post Fauci’s Fifth, the Biden Pardon and the Limits of Silence appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
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Federal Judge Dismisses Interfaith Challenge to Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission
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Judge John P. Cronan held that the Commission’s membership satisfies the Federal Advisory Committee Act and that its record releases during the case left the plaintiffs with nothing left to win. The post Federal Judge Dismisses Interfaith Challenge to Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
Great Photo Shots!
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🦦 Parting shot: View from Otter Cliff Photo: Matthew Kalinowski Acadia National Park in Maine is reader and New Yorker Matthew Kalinowski's favorite national park because of the beauty it offers in a compact area. Last summer, Kalinowski's kids treated it like "the giant natural playground that it is," he writes, "splashing at the edge of peaceful ponds that housed frogs and ducks," and taking in views of tree-lined mountains meeting the deep blue Atlantic. 💎 Below: Jordan Pond, a glacier-carved lake in the park — often called the "crown jewel" of the park's many ponds for its clarity and depth. Photo: Matthew Kalinowski1 point -
The Gods of Hormuz
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When Benjamin Netanyahu stood before Congress on July 24, 2024, he offered his audience an odd little disclaimer before the applause line: this was not, he insisted, a… The post The Gods of Hormuz appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
Catholic Nursing Homes Sue Letitia James Over New York’s Assisted Suicide Mandate
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Photo courtesy Becket. New York’s Medical Aid in Dying Act takes effect Aug. 5. Before it does, a coalition of Catholic sisters who have cared for the city’s… The post Catholic Nursing Homes Sue Letitia James Over New York’s Assisted Suicide Mandate appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
DSA’s New Platform Seeks to Eliminate Senate and Checks and Balances
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The Democratic Socialists of America published a new program this summer, “Workers Deserve More,” drafted by a committee elected at the group’s 2025 convention. It runs through the… The post DSA’s New Platform Seeks to Eliminate Senate and Checks and Balances appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
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The Plane-for-a-Six-Pack Showdown: Supreme Court Takes Up Eighth Amendment Forfeiture Battle
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When an entire aircraft is seized over a minor misdemeanor, the High Court steps in to decide whether the Constitution still protects citizens from excessive government confiscation. The post The Plane-for-a-Six-Pack Showdown: Supreme Court Takes Up Eighth Amendment Forfeiture Battle appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
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Cant Buy or Sell, how will they implement it?
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I agree and it seems like his administration not only wants to control crypto but also elections, etc.!! The reason I say this is because a billionaire heads every department in the U.S., what better way to buy up everything in the country??1 point -
Running at 50 MPH.
phkrause reacted to Gregory Matthews for a topic
I can not vouch for the truth of the following story which is being told on the internet. At 3 AM on a winter morning a Minnesota Trooper noticed a car stuck in the snow, with the lights on. He turned his lights on and sloped. The driver was asleep, with a half empty bottle of vodka on the passenger seat. As the driver woke up and noted the flashing lights, he put the car in gear and the spinning wheels recorded 30, 40 and 50 mph. The Trooper stood beside the door, running in place. At 50 mph he ordered the driver to pull to the side of the road and to turn the engine off. The driver did,and was arrested for drunk driving. However, he never figured out that the Trooper was only running in place as the car only spun its wheels.1 point -
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Cant Buy or Sell, how will they implement it?
phkrause reacted to Kevin H for a topic
This could be, and even beyond the crypto currency, we are finding the government working on implementing on governments financial constraints limiting what they can buy and sell. Just start this on an individual basis.1 point -
The Gods of Hormuz
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Why this war is a collision of eschatologies, not a clash of civilizations The post The Gods of Hormuz appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
Great Photo Shots!
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☀️ Parting shot! Photo: Paula Scholer A stunner snapped by reader Paula Scholer in Utah's Arches National Park in May with an iPhone 12 Pro. Paula's title for the pic: "Captured Spirit."1 point -
Endowed by Their Creator: How Faith Built the Declaration of Independence
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“If your cause is just—you may look with confidence to the Lord and intreat him to plead it as his own. The post Endowed by Their Creator: How Faith Built the Declaration of Independence appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
Founder’s First Freedom Sponsors Scholarly Conference on the 250th Anniversary of US Declaration of Independence
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Conference attendees at Monticello where they were given a tour by curator and WAU graduate Kevin Gurubatham Prominent professors and scholars gathered at Washington Adventist University’s Honors College… The post Founder’s First Freedom Sponsors Scholarly Conference on the 250th Anniversary of US Declaration of Independence appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
Endowed by Their Creator: How Faith Built the Declaration of Independence
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“If your cause is just—you may look with confidence to the Lord and intreat him to plead it as his own. You are all my witnesses, that this… The post Endowed by Their Creator: How Faith Built the Declaration of Independence appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV. View the full article1 point -
Great Photo Shots!
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🇬🇷 Pic to go! Photo: Christopher Ullman Longtime Axios reader Christopher Ullman of Alexandria, Va., snapped this sunrise pic while at a family wedding in Koufonisia, Greece, earlier this month.1 point -
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If Worship on Sunday is wrong, then why do SDA rent their churches to Traditional Christian?
phkrause reacted to Hanseng for a topic
The purpose of gospel preaching is to bring people to Jesus Christ as Saviour. The Holy Spirit works every day of the week. Billy Graham crusades were attended by the convicting/convincing power of the HS. The sermons of John MacArthur were as well. The power of God resides in His Word, wherever and whenever it is proclaimed. I might even mention Kip McKean in this context. As Abraham travelled about, the KJV says he built altars and "called on the name of the Lord" Gen. 13:4. Young's Literal Translation says "And there doth Abraham preach in the name of Jehovah"1 point -
If Worship on Sunday is wrong, then why do SDA rent their churches to Traditional Christian?
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Jimmy Akin looks at and reviews Ellen White
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I am profoundly impressed with the first video which I watched. I will watch the second later. The intellectual honesty of Jimmy Akin is impressive. His use of SDA sources is impressive and results in establishing a foundation that cannot be challenged on a factual basis. His willingness to acknowledge SDA rebuttals to a position that he might hold is appreciated. He clearly seeks to accurately describe SDA positions. Video # 229: This is mostly a historical view of the development of the SDA Church and the life and ministry of EGW: * Jimmy Akin is generally accurate in his description of the historical development of the Millerite Movement, the early life of EGW, the prediction and failure of the predicted Second Advent and the early doctrinal beliefs of those who developed into the SDA Chruch. * I have a very minor disagreement with one historical aspect of his view of the predicted Second Advent. But, his view has been repeated by others. * He cites a recent book by Steve Dailly. That book is controversial in Adventism. In his honesty, he has stated that in the next video, he will cite and discuss SDA Criticisms of that book. * In this video he is limited in his treatment of what EGW actually wrote. In his reference to a passage that has been criticized he presents the SDA view. My reference is to the EGW description of life on another planet and the view of Joseph Bates on that description. * He, like many SDA members, has failed to understand that EGW gave advice that was specific to a time, place. person and situation. In other words, her advice was not intended for the general membership of the SDA denomination. It was for a specific person. * His discussion of the issue as to the inspiration of the EGW Writing vs. the visions that preceded their writing is an important issue. He presents EGW as more rigid on this issue that I consider to be accurate. This is a difference on my part, in the analysis of what she stated on this issue. * He is fair in presenting the Antiochus Epiphanes IV view of the 2300-day prophecy. This is the general understanding of that prophecy that disagrees with what has been the general SDA view. Video # 230: Is an analysis of the work and ministry of EGW: · My comments as to the video above generally apply to this second video. · In general, Jimmy Akin is very respectful of EGW and in rejecting as unsupported many of the criticisms that have been made about EGW and her work. · I wish that he had relied less than he did on the book by Steve Daily. The issues that Daily raised are important and need to be addressed. · He spends a lot of time in discussing how EGW has copied material from other writers and the work of those who edited her writings. Actually he is out of date on this as today SDA scholars are much more aware of this issue. · However, I am surprised that he does not cite the 8-year study of EGWs use of source material in the book The Desire of Ages. The following links take you to two articles published in the December 1990 issue of Ministry, on this issue. Today we know much more than we did in 1990. https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1990/12/the-desire-of-ages-project-the-conclusions https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1990/12/olson-discusses-the-veltman-study · * Generally he has used sources that SDAs consider to be creditable. This video present some exceptions. He has taken a view on her use of the word “amalgamation” that is subject to debate. · * It is clear that Ellen White was not perfect in her understanding of God and Biblical teachings at the age of 17. She grew spiritually as must all of us. God did not step directly in to correct her when her understanding was either incomplete or in error. · * The same is true for her understandings of science, human anatomy, and much more about human life. Yes, EGW believed in Phrenology. She was wrong. So, What? Her human error, and being wrong, does not mean ipso facto that she was not inspired by God. · * I use the word “species” in the manner of scientific taxonomy today. She did not use that word in that sense as she had no understanding of the sense in which I use it. · * While not generally known it is true that until late in her life she enjoyed eating oysters. What he failed to point out is that The SDA Church was not in agreement as to whether or not oysters, and several other foods, were part of the so-called “unclean.” In brief, there is much that I appreciate in this second video. I think very highly of Jimmy Akin and the work that he has done in those two videos. But, I do not consider them to be perfect in every sense. Gregory Matthews1 point