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An Arkansas business owner has decided they’re no longer going to provide service to Muslims, and you’re probably going to agree with their reason. Jan Morgan, owner of the Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, penned a list of reasons she declared her business a “Muslim Free Zone,” and it’s based off of her own research into the brutal religion. “I officially declare my business, The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range, a MUSLIM FREE ZONE. I have made this decision based on the following FACTS,” Morgan writes. She then lists off nine reasons why Muslims will no longer be allowed to shoot at her range, including their brutality against women and the fact she’s been personally threatened by those who practice Islam. Morgan, a conservative patriot and staunch supporter of our Second Amendment rights, also explained that her customer’s safety is her number one priority. After the woman being beheaded in Oklahoma, 9/11 and other atrocities carried out in the name of Allah, her “patrons are not comfortable being around Muslims with guns. (Can you blame them?).” No, we really can’t. However, perhaps the most important point she makes about her decision is that she doesn’t actually believe Islam to be a religion, so she feels that what she’s doing isn’t discriminatory in nature. “I do not believe my decision is religious discrimination because I do not classify Islam as a religion,” she wrote. “It is a theocracy/terrorist organization that hides behind the mask of religion in order to achieve its mission of world domination.” Morgan finished her piece by stating that she welcomes people from all different religions to shoot at her range, and that even atheists are allowed. However, she will do “whatever is necessary to provide [a safe] environment for [her customers], even at the cost of the increased threats and legal problems this decision will likely provoke.” Below is the entire list of reasons Morgan declared her business to be “Muslim Free.” Read them over and let us know what you think: 1) The Koran (which I have read and studied thoroughly and (which all muslims align themselves with), contains 109 verses commanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam. 2) My life has been threatened repeatedly by muslims who are angry that I have studied their koran, know it better than most of them, and am exposing the vileness of their so called “holy book” and its murderous directives. 3) The barbaric act of beheading an innocent American in Oklahoma by a muslim, the Boston bombings, and the murder of 3000 innocent people on 9/11 are more than enough loss of life on my home soil at the hands of muslims to substantiate that muslims can and will follow the directives in their Koran and kill here at home. 4) Because the nature of my business involves firearms and shooting in an enclosed environment, my patrons are not comfortable being around muslims with guns. (can you blame them?) 5) My range rents and sells guns to my patrons. Why would I want to rent or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a religion that commands him to kill me? 6) The muslim brotherhood has a documented plan for the destruction of America from within, discovered by our own government during a raid of MB operatives in America. In addition, the civilization jihad under way in my country by American muslims. In a number of states Muslims, through our legal system, are trying to force us to accept Sharia Law over Constitutional law. I do not wish to do business with people who stand against the Constitution and are fighting to replace it. 7) Muslims, who belong to and or support ISIS, are threatening to kill innocent Americans. Muslims, who belong to or support AL Qaeda, are threatening to kill innocent Americans. Muslims who belong to or support HAMAS are threatening to kill innocent Americans. See a common thread here? 8) Islam allows Muslims to kill their own children (honor killing) if the behavior of those children embarrasses or dishonors the family name. ( did you know that dating outside of the faith is justification for murdering their daughters and this has already occurred on American soil?) Why would I want people who believe its okay to murder their own children, be in the presence of other children? My patrons often bring their kids to the range to teach them to shoot. I am responsible for providing a safe environment for those children to learn gun safety and shooting sports. 9) In the 14 hundred year history, muslims have murdered over 270 million people. Not all muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists in the world right now are muslim. Since you can’t determine by visual assessment, which ones will kill you and which ones will not, I am going to go with the line of thought that ANY HUMAN BEING who would either knowingly or unknowingly support a “religion” that commands the murder of all people who refuse to submit or convert to that religion, is not someone I want to know or do business with. I hold adults accountable for the religion they align themselves with.

I have to agree with Rudy. If all my thoughts are either from God or the devil, I have no free will. Even though we all make decisions to follow God or satan, we are all making that decision every day; and (at least in my experience) I choose rightly on some days and wrongly on others. God won't make me do things His way, and satan, can't make me. God has chosen to honor my free will (whether or not it's His way), and satan cannot overrule my free will (although he can be VERY persuasive). My choices are my own. Is that because I am an egomaniac? No; it's because God gave me the privledge of making my own decisions - stupid as they may be sometimes. Who is right - David when He says in Psalm 51 "For I know my transgressions, and my sin is ever before me. Against thee, thee only, have I sinned" or Flip Wilson when he says on Laugh-In, 'the devil made me do it"?

I might be going out on a limb but I am pretty sure that the family of the woman that was decapitated considers her more than a diversion. You might be hard pressed to convince them radical Muslims are not a concern. The approach of this business owner sounds extreme but there is a element of logic to her actions. The likliehood of a repeat of this is not far fetched once something like this begins. Following this,I am not sure I would be comfortable at a gun range with Muslims and guns. Most would be harmless,but all it takes is one loon.

Perhaps you overlooked my last paragraph... I really didn't think I needed to explain here the consequences of becoming a disciple (student) of Jesus, to be educated spiritually in the school of Jesus. But the immediate context is more about the value of education in a more temporal sense. It has been shown repeatedly that education provides a clear path out of poverty. We are not necessarily talking about even higher education. This is education at a very basic level. Poverty is also major source of oppression for women. Educating women significantly aids in alleviating poverty. But also educating women is a more certain means of facilitating the education of their children, girls and boys, putting succeeding generations on a better footing. Those most susceptible to the recruitment of the extremist ideologies are those that lack education, opportunity for a better life and those stuck in poverty because of that. That is why a girl with a book is a serious threat to radical extremist...

I would very much disagree with your position. The one thing that combats evil is love for God. The most educated people on the earth can be completely evil. Educated men abuse their wives in a multitude of ways. Look at our politicians as an example. All of them are educated, but the vast majority of them are immoral and abuse women in one form or another, such as cheating on their wives for example. The vast majority of the men in this sample have read the Bible, but it didn't change their behavior. The only thing on this earth that combats evil is the surrender of the human heart to God. Then evil is stopped within that heart for that person follows God's leading. They go where God wants them to go. They do what God wants them to do. God's sheep follow His voice because they know Him. So, I guess it can really be said that the only thing that stops evil is to truly know God for only those that love Him really know Him....

a number of thoughts came to me re: the above article, among which are: 1) now *there's* a lawsuit ready to happen.. 2) just how will the owner of the business determine who is, and who is not, "Muslim"? (it rings eerily of Nazi Germany requiring the Jews to wear the yellow armband)

Odd it seems that sometimes divorce would happen for the reason that the one you married is different now, but the person is anxious to get divorced so they can marry a different person.

There are many thoughts and ideas that come to people that are neither "good" nor "bad" -- they simply "are".... I might choose to paint my house blue. Or white. Or purple. The decision I make would not be inherently "good" or "bad" (except to my neighbors, perhaps). And at the risk of stepping on toes, I further submit that dreams are neither good nor evil. They are simply manifestations of the subconscious mind. (But I withhold that judgement on the dreams of scriptural persons, which I consider to be of supernatural origin and not the result of eating a bad loaf of challah.)

I disagree. If the above were true, we would all be puppets with no free will. In addition, the above idea lends itself nicely to folks who have the propensity of condemning anything that doesn't agree with their own ideas and perceptions - because they consider their ideas to be God-given, and if someone has a different idea, [according to the above] it must be of the devil.

I think many (if not most) of us would like to submit our will to Christ, but we end up leasing our will to Him, and retaining landlord status and rights....

there are too many people with real issues in life to spend a lot of time talking about trivials.

Dwight Nelson, Dwight Nelson, period, period :)

First of all please forgive any spelling errors etc. I have been up all night (could not sleep) and I am dyslexic. So between the two I am sure there are some errors. Any way this is a critique of Walter Veith's teachings about Islam. I have seen his claims about Islam being started and controlled by the Catholic church going around. And having done a lot of research into Islam I new this was clearly wrong. But I thought I would check out his video any way. But it was worse than I thought. He has no clear and logical case for what he is saying. So I thought I would go point by point and comment on some of the problems. All of my points are easy to research and based on basic history etc. Much different than the sources he tends to use and I do comment on his sources. Critique of Walter Veith video about Islam being created by the Catholic church. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCmSBfVXEmA& The source of the idea that Islam was created by the Catholic Church seems to be from Alberto Rivera who was not a good source for history. And was almost certainly was a fraud. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Rivera And this seems to be exactly where Walter Veith gets his information. Rivera claimed to have been given this information by the Jesuit General Cardinal Bea. And also found the information in the Vatican archives. His claims about Islam would only have been made by some one who new very little about Islam and history. > Mohameds first wife was Catholic nun. – From my research this is only based on Alberto Rivera who is not a good source for history. And was almost certainly a fraud as mentioned above. I can find no information that Khadija bint Khuwaylid was a nun or for that matter a Catholic. That all seems to come just from Rivera. > Cresent and moon and star shows they took pagan symbol from Catholic church. ---- False Muslims did not use symbols early on. Their flags were of simple solid colors like black and green. They did not believe in having special symbols like the cross for example. So early on they would use colors or writen verses from the Quran printed on things. It was not until something like 600 years later that these symbols were adopted. No one knows for sure why they were adopted. But many believes it was the Ottoman's that did when they finally captured the Christian Byzantium capital of Constantinople as they used it for a symbol. But the Persions and others had used this symbol so no one is exactly sure. But it does seem to be the Ottoman Empire that started using the cresent moon and star. >The same symbols are on Mosques and Catholic churches therfore theya re the same religion. - Very common symbols like sons in decorations is not proof that religions are the same. So finding a Mosque with a Sun symbol some place on it and a Catholic church with a sun symbol some place on it does not mean it is the same religion. The sun symbol is one of the most basic decorations. And do not forget it was not even used for hundreds of years in Islam. This argument is like saying the pentagram and the Dallas Cowboys star looks the same so they have to both be run by the Devil. >Nuns and Muslim women were the same clothes. So they are they same religion - Nuns and Muslim women do not wear exactly the same clothes. They are only the same in that they cover the entire body. You could also compare Muslim womens swim suits to 19th century Protestant womens swim suits. They are very much the same but it does not mean they are the same religion. >Muslims and Catholics both have saints so have to be the same religion. - In Islam is it forbidden to have shrines and pray to saints etc. While this does happen some it is not a core teaching of the Quran or Mohamed. As a matter of fact the reformation type Muslims who only go by the Quran like the Wahabbis have destroyed shrines, etc. >Priests are just men so they are the same. - All traditional Christian religions and the Jewish religion do not allow female priests or pastors. And the Bible does not have female priests or pastors. >There is an eye symbol is Islam and also in Catholicism so they must be the same. - The truth is the eye symbol is the hamsa and predates Islam and is a regional cultural tradition. It has been adopted under different names in the same area by Muslims, Jews and Christians (including protestants). This is another symbol that is not mentioned in the Bible or Quran. It seems to culturaly be some what like the Native American dream catcher is becoming in the US. A general charm people from all regilions use without thinking about it. >Mosques and Catholic churches are built on pagan places of worship so all three are pagan. - It is common in all history for places of worship to be build on or in former places of worship. Pagan places became Christian places of worship and Christian places became Muslim places of worship and they then became Christian again and then back to Muslim. And Catholic places of worship became protestant places of worship. >The Catholics created Islam to get rid of the Orthadox and other Christians in the middle east. - There are many logical problems behind this. The main one being without Islam weakening the Christian Catholic church protestant ideas would probably never have survived. >The area where Islam took over was all Christian. - The area was not all Christian it was a mixture of Jews, Christians (different varieties) and Pagan. Matter of fact many of the very first to fight against Islam were Pagans. >Islam only took over countries that were not Catholic then went away to let the Catholics take over. - This is just crazy. If you read the history you can see the life and death struggles over the ages as Islam and the West battled each other for control. You can see the ebb and flow of power on each side. You can see the battle for towns, castles, cites, kingdoms and oceans etc. You can read in depth about the personal desires and actions of key players at all levels on both sides over long stretches of time. >Walter Veith to make his argument quotes from other fringe sources like Nesta Helen Webster. - Nesta was an early 20th century conspiracy theorist. She was very anti-semitic and became involved in several right-wing groups including the British Fascists, the Anti-Socialist Union, The Link, and the British Union of Fascists. She was also the leading writer of the "The Patriot", an anti-Semitic paper, where she supported the persecution of the Jews in Nazi Germany. She later published Germany and England in which she suggested that Adolf Hitler had successfully halted the Jewish attempt to control the world. She was also an occultist who believed she may have been reincarnated. >The structures of some of these societies and groups were some what they same. So they must all be part of the same huge conspiracy. - There are basic structures that have formed in many places in the world without contact that are some what the same. It does not mean they are all part of the same plot. >The Ottoman Empire was created to get rid of the Orthodox Christians. - Just reading history you can see this is not true. They attacked both Orthadox and Catholic countries. They were stopped by force not by some hidden plan. And the Orthadox bore the brunt of the attacks because of geographic location not a plot. >Osama Bin Ladin is a high ranking freemason. - There is no evidence for this at all. >The Pope/Catholic church never complains about not having relgius freedom in Muslim Lands. - This is clearly false. A quick search will show the Catholic church complaning about Islam. You can start at the current pope and go back. Matter of fact the current pope gave a famous speech and used this quote. “"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached". “. This quote was from Paleologus who spent most of his time in power fighting the Muslims. >Uses Helena Blavatsky the Ocultist as a source. - The problem with this is not that she was into the ocult but that she was an amature in it. Books like The Sources of Madame Blavatsky's Writings show that she plagurized most of her work and it was full of errors. Quoting second rate ocultists as fact does not help build a strong case. >Spends a large amount of time quoting a personal site about Mary by some one named Allan Choveaux. - I can find no information that this is any more than a site by some random Catholic person. This is like some one trying to make a case about Adventists by quating a page setup on the internet by some random Adventist. >Takes the belief that all people must be united under one religion by the muslims and applies it to the Catholics. - The Muslims do believe all men will be united under one religion at the end of time. But that religion is NOT the Catholic religion or any form of Christianity. They believe all the people of the world will be united under Islam. >Says there is no difference between Catholic theologians and muslims theologians. - This is simple not true at all. Finding theologian that is catholic that agrees on one point does not make his statement true. It is like saying because some early Adventist did no believe in the trinity Adventist theologians and Muslim theologians believe the same thing.

http://www.thejerichoroad.com/home/category/walter-veith For those who do not know, Dr. Walter Veith is a middle-aged, white South African with a Ph.d in zoology, an atheist converted to Christianity who came out of South Africa’s racist apartheid regime. He was ordained in South Africa to the ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist church. In the past, Dr. Veith was particularly known for his lectures on Creationism and health related issues, however, his current work focuses on promoting the most common conspiracy theories, ones found on thousands of web sites, in fringe publications, radio programs, late night cable televsion, and on the lucrative lecture circuit. Among other things, Dr. Veith also teaches, contrary to Seventh-day Adventist belief, the superiority of the King James version of the Bible over other more modern versions and appears to believe more modern translations are part of the devil’s conspiracy to mislead humanity. Dr. Veith’s most popular video on YouTube, one that has received over 80,000 views to date (!), is a clip claiming Saddam Hussein has been dead since 1999 and that the man by that name who was hung for crimes against humanity was a body double. Should you watch the clip, ask yourself if what Dr. Veith offers is real proof. What real evidence does he have to support his assertion? And if he does not offer sound proof, why is he doing this? Dr. Veith also believes President George Bush and the CIA are responsible for planning and executing the destruction of the World Trade Centre towers in New York City. This is only one of many evil conspiracies he sees among world leaders. (see his New World Order videos). This, according to Veith, is the outcome of President Bush and all the major world leaders being under the direct control of secret societies, particularly the Free Masons and the Jesuit order of the Catholic Church. Dr. Veith believes there is a conspiracy between Islam and the Catholic church to rule the world. He teaches that Mormons are also part of this secret conspiracy, one he is determined to expose. However, it is not clear to me why he thinks his work is different than all of the secular conspiracy theorist he freely uses to “prove” his conjectures. Dr. Veith sees the signs, symbols, and secret handshakes of secret societies all around us, permeating society and controlling minds. He believes these secret societies, inspired by the devil, are attempting to establish a New World order in which they have absolute control over the political and financial decisions of everyone. Dr. Veith believes the Christian Alpha Course, because it has the word “alpha” in it’s name, is evil, since alpha brain waves, which we all have, are some how being used in a hypnotic way to control other human beings. I’m not exactly sure how this works out, but Dr. Veith seems to think this is happening. I suppose this would not apply to the Greek alphabet or any other letter system with the prefix of alpha. (see the Strange Fire video). What I find more disturbing in Dr. Veith’s work is his twisting and misinterpretation of Bible prophecies to fit his scheme of conspiracy theories. This is undermining the faith of others who are sincerely trying to understand what God has said about events in the last days. Perhaps this, in the end, will prove the most serious consequence of his work in the name of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. I also find it odd and spiritually suspect that Dr. Veith spends all of his public time exposing what he imagines are the secret, sinful acts of others. I can’t help but wonder if Dr. Veith himself has a few secrets. I wonder because I’ve seen or heard nothing about his own current struggles with sin in his life. Perhaps that is all a thing of the past. Could his supposedly deep insights into the evil working of others be the result of his having reached perfection himself? To speak so often and so freely about evil outside himself suggest a belief that little resides within. Who better then to judge the world and expose it for what it is? I’ve noticed this same tendency in the lives of Veith’s followers, the ones I have met personally or heard from. They have precious few specific confessions to make. Though I know of sins they are presently struggling with, they exercise a remarkable freedom in criticism of their church, fellow members, or the pastor. Odd, they never feel so free in talking about their own shortcomings. Not a peep is heard in prayer meetings or worship service when opportunities to put wrongs right are given. Not a single personal peccadillo is revealed. They might make the rash general reference to being a sinner, but much of the dirt others see in them is neatly swept under the rug. I believe Jesus called it hypocrisy. (Should you, the reader, wonder about my own confessions or accuse me of hypocrisy, as more than one has, my archive category, “Self Exams” or “Meditations” will be a place to start. I openly confess here that hypocrisy has been one of my more grievous sins.) Many Christians, including some Seventh-day Adventist ministers, believe that Dr. Veith is doing a wonderful work of warning the world about the conspiracies of evil that surround us. Though this surprises me personally, I suppose some of our members and pastors believe this is the work Jesus commissioned his disciples to do and that there are many examples in the Bible of Jesus preaching in this way. I have not been able to find any, but they must be there or else these sincere souls would not support Dr. Veith’s conspiracy theories. I know, as a Seventh-day Adventist minister, that the Seventh-day Adventist church does not teach or approve of conspiracy theories. Nor does it advocate the King James Version of the Bible as the only trusted translation. The Biblical Research Institute, an officially appointed theological research group of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, has found it necessary to refute Dr. Veith’s research in this area. (BRI Newsletter article).These facts can easily be gathered from our official public statements as well as the wide majority practice within our churches. Only the smallest minority of members worldwide, a group that does not represent the church as a whole, share the conspiracy theories of Dr. Veith. (For more on our belief regarding Bible versions, here is a paper on the subject.) The consistent practice of administrators, pastors, bible workers, elders, deacons, and other members from around the world show that Dr. Veith’s representations of the Seventh-day Adventist faith is very different from our own. From Texas, Pastor Bill Cork comments, “His videos reveal that he has uncritically appropriated a wide variety of conspiracy theories and sources, which he has strung together on the flimsiest of associations (as noted under Alpha, above). Everyone is a freemason, these are controlled by the Jesuits, who also created the Mormons. He rehashes every 9-11, Kennedy assassination, and Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy theory. He consistently says he is giving sources, but his sources are mainly just other conspiracy sites.” -From Bill Cork’s blog, A Twitch Upon The Thread. Dr. Veith is speaking and teaching in the name of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, therefore, you must ask yourself, is this what I believe and is it what I want others to believe about my faith? I am saddened by the fact that some of our members are being misled by Dr. Veith and that some non-members are wrongly assuming he represents our faith. I received an early morning call from an irate member in Scotland, who had recently returned from the Veith meetings in the Netherlands and had come across my blog. He assured me he and others would be sending their tithe to Dr. Veith. Comments made on this blog are in a similar vein. From the comments and emails I have received, from members and fellow pastors, it is clear enough to me that Veith is having a significant negative and divisive influence in some of our local churches. One local elder from Colorado (U.S.) has emailed me, telling of the divisive influence Veith has had in his church. How many others are having to spend time they could use in better ways, trying to counteract the distorted teachings of this misguided man? I know of fellow pastors in the U.K. who are facing similiar division among their members. I have heard of them in Finland, the Netherlands, Germany, South Africa, and the United States. If you as a church leader are not familiar with these issues, then I would hope you take the time to study them until we are able to give an answer to those who ask. There is a moral obligation resting on all who are called to teach the gospel of Christ. Are you willing to speak out, to say the things you have been saying privately about Dr. Veith’s misrepresentations of your faith? Are you a pastor or church administrator who has hesitated to take appropriate action under the guidelines of our church manual? Will you now challenge Dr. Veith’s insubordinate behaviour in circumventing the service request policies for ordained ministers? Will you be clear with the church at large where you stand on Veith’s conspiracy theories and other odd teachings? If you have been wondering about the timeliness of speaking out, I would suggest that time has come.

Veith seems to be getting stranger as time goes on. I agree with Stan- if you get a chance check out Al Hanif. It is a more humane and more loving and winsome way to connect with those of Islam.

Patrick, thank you for posting that. Are you aware of the AlHanif movement? That is where Adventist work in Muslim countries and can teach 27 of the 28 fundamental believes out of the Quaran? Walter Veith's sensationalism is hurting that work.