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I do not believe in the ordination of women, it's all self,Man is the head not the woman,we should not follow the world,the world should follow us. Blessings

Recently I read a biography of Katherine Howard, fifth wife of Henry VIII. Those who were reputed to be her lovers were tortured to get a confession. Torture was routinely used in the Tudor era. But I remember how even at the time the confessions, although providing the "evidence" needed to condemn the accused, were not trusted as reliable confessions because of the torture. The same goes for those who were beheaded in the Anne Boleyn scandal. It did the job but it makes one wonder how many innocent persons died as either the direct result of the torture or from false confessions gained from those desperate situations of physical distress? How can you ever remove the doubt that the words spoken under duress are actually true?

Muslims Complain About “Foul Odor” From Bacon, Then This Happens LIFE AUTHOR Jodi Swan 1 DAY AGO A few Muslims got their panties in a bunch when a local restaurant was emitting the smell of delicious bacon. Now, officials are saying it is “unacceptable for neighboring residents” to offend Muslims with the odor of bacon. Consequently, the owners of the establishment are being forced to remove an extractor fan meant to improve air circulation in the restaurant. The fan is allowing the bacon smell to get out into public. The horror! Beverley Akciecek’s neighbors said they felt “physically sick” due to the “foul odor” of bacon coming from her business. Graham Webb-Lee says his Muslim friends won’t visit him because they “can’t stand the smell of bacon.” City planners sided with Webb-Lee and his Islamic friends, ruling that the “odors given off from the vent were unacceptable for neighbouring residents.” This, despite the fact that Akciecek says she has Muslim friends and family members who frequent Beverley’s Snack Shack without issue. Clearly, this is an attack on a business owner with views differing from those of radical Islam. Nevertheless, Akciecek will be forced to remove the fan which has been aiding in the ventilation of her shop for three years now. YoungCons points out that Akciecek has been running her fan for years without any complaints, thus the issue is not as big a deal as the intolerant Muslims have made it out to be. If Christians were complaining about a business owned by Muslims, the left would never let us hear the end of it. Share this report to expose the hypocrisy of progressives and the intolerance of radical Islam. Ads by Adblade

I am pretty sure that it was intended to be an opinion piece. Some things cannot be disputed however. It is an "opinion" this was racially motivated and is being presented as fact by many. Does anyone really think that the intent was to kill this man in full view of many witnesses? The squad of officers who sought to arrest Garner was under the supervision of a sergeant who was black and female, and was therefore very unlikely to be racially motivated. Mr. Garner was being placed under arrest for a tax law violation related to the sale of untaxed cigarettes – a trivial offense. However, Mr. Garner actively resisted arrest, and that criminal offense forces the police to assert their authority, regardless of the gravity of the original crime (next time you get a traffic ticket, refuse to sign it, and see what happens to you).

ecember 8, 2014 A Medical Perspective on the Garner Tragedy By G. Wesley Clark, MD When the initial news of the death of Eric Garner occurred, it seemed a minor occurrence – very important to Mr. Garner and his family, but not a major national event. Now it has become the genesis of nationwide mindless protests, over the supposedly lethal and irresponsible actions of a New York policeman and the subsequent decision of a Grand Jury to decline an indictment. Having reviewed the video several times now, and being a physician who specialized in the surgery of the very obese, I believe that the cause of Mr. Garner's death was not "police brutality" or negligence, but rather the unfortunate synergy between his disease of morbid obesity and actions most police perform countless times with only transient discomfort to the arrestee. The decision of the Grand Jury was reasonable. Mr. Garner's demise was the consequence of a confluence of many factors, most of which were beyond the ken of a policeman, and which occurred in devastatingly rapid sequence. Eric Garner was very obese, said to weigh at least 350 pounds. In fact, based upon his height and appearance, he very likely weighed more than that, but very few bathroom scales read high enough to accurately measure weight of that magnitude. By simple observation, one could see that his abdomen was very large and protuberant. His chest was similarly blanketed with a heavy layer of fat, and he had no visible neck – no indentation under his jaw, typically present in non-obese persons, which permits application of a "chokehold," to briefly arrest the carotid circulation to render him unconscious and manageable. The chokehold was ineffective as a control, but it served to take him to the ground by leverage. Medically, he was said to suffer from sleep apnea, and he may well also have Pickwickian Syndrome (less picturesquely, "Obesity-hypoventilation syndrome"), which can cause resting hypoxia; low blood oxygen levels, even at rest; and altered physiological responses to high levels of carbon dioxide in the blood. These conditions in turn lead to congestive heart failure and to sporadic loss of consciousness. Yet another diagnosis was acute and chronic bronchial asthma, which can be activated by any acute stress, and which would further impair his respiration. An obese male of Mr. Garner's size has enormously powerful muscle strength. Just lifting himself out of a chair requires pressing 350 lbs.! His legs each lift at least 350 lbs. with every step. He was almost certainly far stronger than any of the officers attempting to arrest him, and that required that they exert significant force to subdue him. The tragedy developed as follows: The squad of officers who sought to arrest Garner was under the supervision of a sergeant who was black and female, and was therefore very unlikely to be racially motivated. Mr. Garner was being placed under arrest for a tax law violation related to the sale of untaxed cigarettes – a trivial offense. However, Mr. Garner actively resisted arrest, and that criminal offense forces the police to assert their authority, regardless of the gravity of the original crime (next time you get a traffic ticket, refuse to sign it, and see what happens to you). Officer Pantaleo can be seen in the video placing his left arm alongside Mr. Garner's neck, and encircling his neck with his right arm. However, there is no impression of Pantaleo's arm under Garner's chin, as is necessary for an effective carotid occlusion. The effect of Pantaleo's effort was to unbalance Garner, causing him to fall to the ground, with Pantaleo winding up on top of him. At this point, Pantaleo can clearly be seen to release his ineffectual "chokehold" and to (roughly) hold Garner's head to the pavement while the other officers subdue him. It was after Pantaleo had released his hold that Garner uttered, "I can't breathe!" several times. Garner was still alive and conscious after Pantaleo released him from the "chokehold" that supposedly (by overwhelming popular opinion) was responsible for his death! Mr. Garner was subdued by other officers who placed their weight on his body in order to wrest his arms behind him to apply handcuffs. Mr. Garner's chest capacity (vital capacity) was already seriously compromised by his obesity. An officer's weight on his chest would further diminish his lung capacities. Pressure on Mr. Garner's abdomen, also exerted to subdue him, forced the enormous fatty contents of his abdomen to be pushed upward toward his chest, restricting his diaphragmatic motion, adding another factor that reduced his ability to breathe. He was barely able to inhale enough air to gasp, "I can't breathe!" A normal and healthy male would have been transiently distressed by the actions of the arresting officers. Mr. Garner had no margin of safety, no reserve at all, and was precariously unstable even before he was accosted. The actions of the arresting officers, undoubtedly used many times before without significant ill effect, combined with Garner's pathophysiology to rapidly produce hypoxia, very likely aggravated by carbon dioxide retention and narcosis, which suppresses the normal reflex to breathe. This was rapidly followed by cardiac arrhythmia and death. Unfortunately, when Mr. Garner became unconscious from hypoxia and carbon dioxide narcosis, the officers appeared bewildered and evidently did not realize that Mr. Garner was rapidly dying from cessation of his breathing and then of his cardiac activity. The subsequent post-mortem examination is said to have shown no evidence of injury to either the larynx or the hyoid bone, which is almost always fractured in cases of strangulation. Mr. Garner is said to have died from "chest compression" and associated heart disease. Few persons, undoubtedly including most police officers and even Mr. Garner, would understand the gravity and complex pathophysiology of this condition, and the rapidity with which it can become irreversible, unless an airway and mechanical ventilation can be quickly administered – and establishing an airway in a very obese person is itself extremely challenging even under ideal conditions, such as in an operating room, let alone on the sidewalk. Eric Garner's death had essentially nothing to do with racism or racial animosity, particularly when one can see an African-American female sergeant, in charge at the scene, standing and observing the arrest in the background. Ultimately, as the senior officer on the scene, she was responsible for Mr. Garner's safety, although it would be unreasonable to incriminate her, either, given the obscure physiology of the chain of events that led to his unfortunate demise. Needless to say, the facts will have little influence on racial demagogues, such as Al Sharpton and President Obama, as they seek to racially divide our nation and generate racial hatred. When the initial news of the death of Eric Garner occurred, it seemed a minor occurrence – very important to Mr. Garner and his family, but not a major national event. Now it has become the genesis of nationwide mindless protests, over the supposedly lethal and irresponsible actions of a New York policeman and the subsequent decision of a Grand Jury to decline an indictment. Having reviewed the video several times now, and being a physician who specialized in the surgery of the very obese, I believe that the cause of Mr. Garner's death was not "police brutality" or negligence, but rather the unfortunate synergy between his disease of morbid obesity and actions most police perform countless times with only transient discomfort to the arrestee. The decision of the Grand Jury was reasonable. Mr. Garner's demise was the consequence of a confluence of many factors, most of which were beyond the ken of a policeman, and which occurred in devastatingly rapid sequence. Eric Garner was very obese, said to weigh at least 350 pounds. In fact, based upon his height and appearance, he very likely weighed more than that, but very few bathroom scales read high enough to accurately measure weight of that magnitude. By simple observation, one could see that his abdomen was very large and protuberant. His chest was similarly blanketed with a heavy layer of fat, and he had no visible neck – no indentation under his jaw, typically present in non-obese persons, which permits application of a "chokehold," to briefly arrest the carotid circulation to render him unconscious and manageable. The chokehold was ineffective as a control, but it served to take him to the ground by leverage. Medically, he was said to suffer from sleep apnea, and he may well also have Pickwickian Syndrome (less picturesquely, "Obesity-hypoventilation syndrome"), which can cause resting hypoxia; low blood oxygen levels, even at rest; and altered physiological responses to high levels of carbon dioxide in the blood. These conditions in turn lead to congestive heart failure and to sporadic loss of consciousness. Yet another diagnosis was acute and chronic bronchial asthma, which can be activated by any acute stress, and which would further impair his respiration. An obese male of Mr. Garner's size has enormously powerful muscle strength. Just lifting himself out of a chair requires pressing 350 lbs.! His legs each lift at least 350 lbs. with every step. He was almost certainly far stronger than any of the officers attempting to arrest him, and that required that they exert significant force to subdue him. The tragedy developed as follows: The squad of officers who sought to arrest Garner was under the supervision of a sergeant who was black and female, and was therefore very unlikely to be racially motivated. Mr. Garner was being placed under arrest for a tax law violation related to the sale of untaxed cigarettes – a trivial offense. However, Mr. Garner actively resisted arrest, and that criminal offense forces the police to assert their authority, regardless of the gravity of the original crime (next time you get a traffic ticket, refuse to sign it, and see what happens to you). Officer Pantaleo can be seen in the video placing his left arm alongside Mr. Garner's neck, and encircling his neck with his right arm. However, there is no impression of Pantaleo's arm under Garner's chin, as is necessary for an effective carotid occlusion. The effect of Pantaleo's effort was to unbalance Garner, causing him to fall to the ground, with Pantaleo winding up on top of him. At this point, Pantaleo can clearly be seen to release his ineffectual "chokehold" and to (roughly) hold Garner's head to the pavement while the other officers subdue him. It was after Pantaleo had released his hold that Garner uttered, "I can't breathe!" several times. Garner was still alive and conscious after Pantaleo released him from the "chokehold" that supposedly (by overwhelming popular opinion) was responsible for his death! Mr. Garner was subdued by other officers who placed their weight on his body in order to wrest his arms behind him to apply handcuffs. Mr. Garner's chest capacity (vital capacity) was already seriously compromised by his obesity. An officer's weight on his chest would further diminish his lung capacities. Pressure on Mr. Garner's abdomen, also exerted to subdue him, forced the enormous fatty contents of his abdomen to be pushed upward toward his chest, restricting his diaphragmatic motion, adding another factor that reduced his ability to breathe. He was barely able to inhale enough air to gasp, "I can't breathe!" A normal and healthy male would have been transiently distressed by the actions of the arresting officers. Mr. Garner had no margin of safety, no reserve at all, and was precariously unstable even before he was accosted. The actions of the arresting officers, undoubtedly used many times before without significant ill effect, combined with Garner's pathophysiology to rapidly produce hypoxia, very likely aggravated by carbon dioxide retention and narcosis, which suppresses the normal reflex to breathe. This was rapidly followed by cardiac arrhythmia and death. Unfortunately, when Mr. Garner became unconscious from hypoxia and carbon dioxide narcosis, the officers appeared bewildered and evidently did not realize that Mr. Garner was rapidly dying from cessation of his breathing and then of his cardiac activity. The subsequent post-mortem examination is said to have shown no evidence of injury to either the larynx or the hyoid bone, which is almost always fractured in cases of strangulation. Mr. Garner is said to have died from "chest compression" and associated heart disease. Few persons, undoubtedly including most police officers and even Mr. Garner, would understand the gravity and complex pathophysiology of this condition, and the rapidity with which it can become irreversible, unless an airway and mechanical ventilation can be quickly administered – and establishing an airway in a very obese person is itself extremely challenging even under ideal conditions, such as in an operating room, let alone on the sidewalk. Eric Garner's death had essentially nothing to do with racism or racial animosity, particularly when one can see an African-American female sergeant, in charge at the scene, standing and observing the arrest in the background. Ultimately, as the senior officer on the scene, she was responsible for Mr. Garner's safety, although it would be unreasonable to incriminate her, either, given the obscure physiology of the chain of events that led to his unfortunate demise. Needless to say, the facts will have little influence on racial demagogues, such as Al Sharpton and President Obama, as they seek to racially divide our nation and generate racial hatred. Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/12/a_medical_perspective_on_the_garner_tragedy.html#ixzz3LKYsAwVH

Pastors and their families would certainly not agree with that notion. Uprooting families every two or three years is terribly hard on them.

CoAspen: Please bear with Bert. His profile tells us that he is only 55 years old, and was born in 1959. People of that young age do not have the maturity of experience that people like you and I have. We must bear with them and seek to guide them through the experiences of life and help them to reach the maturity of wisdom that we have achieved.

On the one hand, just about everything can be associated with pagan rituals. If you think about it, the act of conception can be associated with pagan fertility rites! so, should that mean that no one should ever participate in an act of conception? Well, such would soon bring an end to overpopulation issues. Sorry about that folks, but I could not help myself and I had to post this. [Well, actually I am not sorry about posting it.]

We have a black woman police officer in our town. This is a woman I would be very uneasy around in stressful situations.In her case I do believe it is race based. In the past she used to walk her dog down our block. She would have him on a leash and then remove the leash to do his business in the yards along the block. At first I thought it was accidental. But it was over and over,even with the owners standing in the yard watching. Her whole attitude was daring someone to try to knock the chip off her shoulder. It was so stupid and childish it was hard to comprehend an adult behaving in that manner. I almost said something and then decided it was not worth reporting her or even talking with her and just ignored it. Some of the other neighbors did confront her and go to the police dept. Don't know what happened as she no longer walks this block. Should I base my attitude towards black officers in general because of this obnoxious woman? And,no,I did not take a video but some did

My wealthy white employer's white daughter was not even granted the "privacy" of a holding cell and had male officers looking on. Police officers are made up of human beings. Some should never hold that position. Most are decent human beings dealing with a wide variety of the good and bad in society. In the heat of battle do things go further than they should?Of Course. What caused the treatment of the daughter of my white wealthy employer? Racism is such an abused and used word for everything that it really seems to be losing the meaning of racism. Those that are truly victims of brutality,and injustice ,whatever the color of their skin get lost in the shuffle.Reaction is more and more "Here we go again"

Should this man have died? No,of course not.Is the incident portrayed accurately in the media,No. This was not an innocent man minding his own business that fell victim to a racist cop. He appears to be well known to the police,perfectly capable of inflicting violence and intimidation on those vulnerable. 31 arrests should have probably told him it would not be wise to physically resist arrest. With his size and temperment the cops will undoubtedly use physical force. There were tragic results but nothing says it was racially motivated. It was motivated first and foremost by the actions of the man that died

You are straying off in another direction. Your previous post was directly blaming one small segment of a society for slavery Maybe it is appropriate for me to use your description ......I know, none of you warm and wonderful bound for heaven evangelistic black adventists on this board had anything to do with slavery,but your ancestors did same as our white ancestors. Yet,the evil is all laid at the doorstep of white christians,why is that? Your race had the same exact cruel inhuman capabilities as my white race. Some might even think more so as they sold their own and after being slaves and freed they in turn became slave masters and owned breeding farms. So when you blame slavery for the plight of the black race,who gets the blame? The white race or is the blame equal on the slavery issue? When you list times you have felt wrongly treated because of the color of your skin has it ever occurred to you that many white people have same happen to them by those of the black race? I have had it happen more than once,should I blame the black race or place the blame where it belongs? A few hateful people

If this is a civil rights issue, what right/s are not already guaranteed by the Constitution? Unless it be the right to burn, loot, and steal.

Bravus, where is your heart? That is where home is. Does your heart long for Jesus, or for the church, or for the world, or for nothing? One can be many things on the outside but God knows your heart.

And consider that in the divine math of marriage 1+1=1 or 2=1. If marriage is described as "the two shall be one", how does one rise above itself to assert dominance over itself?