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I posted this topic here because of the lawsuit. My main interest was the soft tissue found and the several articles I have read regarding that. While I believe there is more than a slight possibility that the outcome would be... Attorneys for a California State University, Northridge scientist who was terminated from his job after discovering soft tissue on a triceratops fossil have filed a lawsuit against the university, I don't know anymore than anyone what took place. One thing is fairly certain is that if the reason for the firing is as he claims by CSUN board of trustees it will not be acknowledged as the reason

In another section of Club Adventist the issue of prayer and physical healing has been brought up. This is an issue that is of increasing interest today. There is growing body of literature that speaks to whether or not prayer is helpful in physical healing. Frankly, much of the literature on this subject is of little scientific validity. One should be careful as to accepting the conclusions of such, regardless of whether or not they agree with any bias that we might have. It should be noted that much of what is cited today is dated and not concurrent with the findings of today. I will give you two references of some value, I believe. The first is a book by Dr. Dale A. Matthews, with Connie Clark. That book was first published in 1998. It has been republished at later times. and by different publishers. So, it is dated and not up to current findings. However, I believe that it is of value. One can purchase it today, in either paperback or hardback, from Amazon and others. Dale A. Matthews & Connie Clark, THE FAITH FACTOR: PROOF OF THE HEALING POWER OF PRAYER. The 2nd book I will recommend is much more current and has the highest standards of scientific knowledge. As you note the publisher, you will realize that the publisher did not have a bias in favor. While it addresses a narrow range, it is of value in telling us when faith has a positive influence, when it seems to have no influence and when it has a negative influence on clinical issues. John R. Peteet, Francis G. Lu, William E. Narrow, Editors. RELIGIOUS AND SPIRITUAL ISSSUES IN PSYCHIATRIC DIAGNOSIS: A RESEARCH AGENDA FOR DSM-V. American Psychiatric Association, 2011, 277pages. I have invited three (3) people who have posted elsewhere to post here and I welcome others to join in.

what were the original reasons for criminalizing cocaine and other opiates, and then the prohibition on alcohol? (Hint: it wasn't for "health" reasons...)

I agree with whbae, that ANY newly-learned skill can only help, not hinder one's quality of life.

Well Pam, he makes good points, but I disagree. The reasons I think is because the government makes money on cig, alc, but don't on H, Cocaine, and most of the other so called illegal drugs.

You are a brave soul!

Principle of bible interpretation #3 Scripture must be it’s own expositor (explainer), since it is a rule of itself. If I depend on a minister or teacher to explain it to me, and they should guess at it’s meaning, or desire to have it so on account of their creed, or thought to be wise… then their guessing, desire, creed, or wisdom is my rule and not the Bible! Psalms 19:7-11; 119:97-105; Matthew 23:8-10; 1 Corinthians 2:12-16; Ezekiel 34:18-19; Luke 11:52; Malachi 2:7-8. “The Bible with its precious gems of truth was not written for the scholar alone. On the contrary, it was designed for the people; and the interpretation given by the common people, when aided by the Holy Spirit, accords best with the truth as it is in Jesus.”5T 330-1 Notice you wrote "If I depend on a minister or teacher to explain it to me, and they should guess at it’s meaning, or desire to have it so on account of their creed, or thought to be wise… then their guessing, desire, creed, or wisdom is my rule and not the Bible!" we are not talking about depending on guessing, desire or creed or wisdom. We are talking about common people looking at the weight of the evidence. You seem to be supporting the "guessing and desire or wisdom" of the common person. We are not talking about reading the Bible with the imagination, whether the imagination is that of a lay person or a scholar. But a freedom to learn what we can about the Bible. We do not need to become scholars ourselves to look at the evidence. Scholars can point out information in history we may not know about. Scholars can point out information in the language that we may not know about. Scholars can point out that there is a poetic structure and compare the text with similar poetic structures. We are free to evaluate their argument and find points that make sense and convince us, or points that do not make sense and does not convince us. Through much of the dark ages the priests were making lessons that was not based on a study of the history and words, but say take something like the parable of the good Samaritan and make very complicated messages taking every item in the story and making it mean something else than it says. Then in Mrs. White's day there was growing a lot of speculation either going to preterism making the text only something historical and fictional and no more than a nice morality tale, or fundamentalism and dispensationalism and developing the ideas of John Darby. However our imagination can be just a wild as those people's, but because we are lay members our imagination is more holy then theirs. Miller would look at the worlds. Use concordances to try to study the word in other contexts (today we have both the Biblical text as well as more contemporary writings than Miller had to read from to see how the word is used). And he turned to history to understand their historical context. And part of the investigative judgment is that we know more about the languages and the historical conference than ever before. We can look at this information and use this to understand the words of the Bible better and have them point us closer to the meaning of these words and the Bible. But your arguments here is saying "Because I'm not a scholar what I want to read into the words from my wild imagination is the truth and you must submit to what I tell you the Bible means." and setting your self up as a pope and a final authority.

One has to be blind to deny that there is still racism in this country. In fact it will remain as long as sin remains. What we are discussing in this thread (at least when it started) is Chaplain Black picking up a gesture based on a lie. Pick out a cause based on the truth.

Memory fades and we forget what to do, and hormones run out that drive us to do crazy things.

like if you understand.

But saying stupid things never seems to run out!!!

Couldn't help but agree with you to the largest extent. OTOH, just before the Lord reveals Himself in the clouds, there is going to be a religious battle fought between those who believe the Scripture is the final authority and others who believe there is someone who holds the traditions of men should hold supreme authority, with death eventually as the penalty for not aquiescing to that idea. What would you suggest might be a good substitute for frontal revelation, especially considering there are some who believe we have, in comparison to the time it was revealed, very little time to promote what is actually taking place right at this moment of time? 16And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six......Rev 13 2as it is written in Isaiah the prophet: “I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way”c — 3“a voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.’ ”d Mark 1 God is Love! Jesus saves!

Lol!!

Folks, it is well known that the Roman Catholic Church differs in theology from Protestant theology--some more and some less. Do we not have something better to do with our time, effort and energy than focus on the sins of the RC Church? Do we not have something positive in our faith and practice that we can share with joy?

Very well said.

I'd be interested to know whether anyone participating in this thread is claiming that there is supernatural intervention. If all of the effects of faith on health are natural results of lifestyle choices, then obviously it's quite possible to receive all of those benefits without actually having faith...

I'm a simple Christian but it seems to me that we have forgotten the admonition of the LORD. Revelation 18 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. We do not have to be enemies, but we cannot be friends with the organisations!! People can be Christians, Babylon cannot!!

To carefully study the life and teachings of Christ should be the program for all who believe in him. To reprogram our behaviors to model his would be our life's work.