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But according to today's L.A.Times, the British government is in chaos. Something which reflects the U.S. government's chaos which has spawned the Trump fiasco. The time of the end approaches.

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That's an easy one. Get it...one. LOL (I crack myself up sometimes.)

The choice: Arsenic vs Strychnine

Here's my question to both men and women seeking to become Pastors: What's your motive? Is it status? Is it self-importance? Keep in mind the disciples argued who among them was to be the greatest. How did Jesus respond to this self-seeking mentality? “If anyone desires to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all.” Mark 9:35 All motives outside the above are based in iniquity and are self-glorying.

That is a good statement from Mrs. White regarding the story of Genesis 3. However, regarding women's role in the home as compared to their husbands, there are some plainer statements. Mrs. White was balanced, and certainly I do not see her condoning a dictatorial role for the husband, but she does establish the husband as the head of the home in very firm tones. Some will say, "but how does this apply to the church?" This is a fair question, and, fortunately, Ellen White also helps us to understand the position of the church as having its origination in the home. The "corporate" body starts with the home family. Below are two statements that help us understand these things. "The husband is the head of the family, as Christ is the head of the church; and any course which the wife may pursue to lessen his influence and lead him to come down from that dignified, responsible position is displeasing to God. It is the duty of the wife to yield her wishes and will to her husband. Both should be yielding, but the word of God gives preference to the judgment of the husband. And it will not detract from the dignity of the wife to yield to him whom she has chosen to be her counselor, adviser, and protector. The husband should maintain his position in his family with all meekness, yet with decision." {1T 307.1} "Every Christian family is a church in itself. The members of the family are to be Christlike in every action. The father is to sustain so close a relation to God that he realizes his duty to make provision for the members of his family to receive an education and training that will fit them for the future, immortal life. His children are to be taught the principles of heaven. He is the priest of the household, accountable to God for the influence that he exerts over every member of his family. He is to place his family under the most favorable circumstances possible, so that they shall not be tempted to conform to the habits and customs, the evil practices and lax principles, that they would find in the world." {1NL 77.2} If the father is the head and priest of the home, and if the home is a church in itself, it is clear that the same principles of home order apply to the church.

The word of God is the great detector of error; to it we believe everything must be brought. The Bible must be our standard for every doctrine and practice. We must study it reverentially. We are to receive no one's opinion without comparing it with the Scriptures. Here is divine authority which is supreme in matters of faith. It is the word of the living God that is to decide all controversies. It is when men mingle their own human smartness with God's words of truth in giving sharp thrusts to those who are in controversy with them, that they show that they have not a sacred reverence for God's inspired word. They mix the human with the divine, the common with the sacred, and they belittle God's word. THE ELLEN G. WHITE 1888 MATERIALS, PAGE 44,45

I don't have a dog in the race on this subject. In fact this is probably the first time I've responded. Bottom line: The Bible is my measuring stick of truth. Pastors, male or female, are not my final word. There....!

Titus 3:3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

In my opinion, calling someone else belief a LIE because they differ is crass and rude. It puts up brick walls before before can even see any reasoning... Just my opinion, does anyone else agree?

You know, when I introduced myself as a Messianic Jew someone mentioned this verse..... Galations 3:26-29. I mentioned that while I agree we should all come together we can still recognize where each other came from. However, I believe we can use this text in this issue as well. "26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

1. By your first statement above, then no BC believers were ever born again? And only AD believers have that hope? 2. Here is what Col 2:13 says. ESV | ‎Col 2:13 "And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses," This verse actually contradicts your premise that people are actually born "born again". Notice what the verse says. "And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, ". Paul is just repeating to the Colossians what he told the Ephesians - ESV | ‎Eph 2:1 "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins ‎2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— ‎3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. ‎4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, ‎5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved"— Man's condition before he accepts Jesus as Savior by faith - "conceived in sin", "dead in trespasses", "slave to sin", "lost sheep". After he receives Christ by faith - "born again", "made alive together with Christ", "forgiven", "redeemed" "atoned for" "children of God". The BC believers were saved by virtue of looking forward to what Jesus did on Calvary, and the AD believers looking back to it. 3. We are not saved en masse. We are saved one by one as we receive by faith (Rom 3:25) the gift of righteousness that God offers. The unborn are not capable of exercising faith to receive that righteousness. 4. Furthermore, if you look at the context of your original text "apart from me you can do nothing" (Jn 15:5), you will find that it is about bearing fruit. It requires an indwelling Christ and Holy Spirit for a person to bear the fruit of the Spirit. Without the indwelling Christ and HS, Paul says, KJV 1900 | ‎Ro 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. No sinner can even repent on his own, it too is a gift.

I absolutely feel that the Spirit was poured on ALL flesh. Spiritual "gifts" were given (for the edification of the church). Of the gifts: wisdom, knowledge, faith, healings, miracles, prophecy, discerning of spirits, tongues, interpretation of tongues Which of these are exclusively MALE? My opinion. NONE. That said, there is the aspect of administrations - of oversight, of decision making for divisions within the church. This is where the argument seems to arise for MALE only - in those roles. 1 Corinthians 12:28 "And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. (NKJ) The first 12 apostles were MALE. Beyond that we just don't know. There ARE NO MORE. The first person witnesses are all dead. But look at "second". Second is "prophets". That would put a prophet before a teacher. Before an administrator. What actions or role would be prohibited to women - within the Church of Jesus Christ on earth? Baptizing? Voting to end a tie - at the church board meeting? Pre-marriage counseling? Counseling female congregational members? Visiting those in prison, or in the hospital? If a woman can be an accountant, a nuclear scientist, or an architect, or a Supreme Court Judge [intellect is not lacking], why is it - when a woman steps over the threshold of a church - she suddenly must accept a narrowly defined role as secretary, children's teacher, flower arranger, cook, piano player, or other such? I am definitely of the opinion that children come FIRST. I do NOT believe that absent career mothers have been good for small children. Only within the last 90 years have women had access to means of birth control - to limit the # of children, and to time their conception. The Bible was written well before such means were available. The Adventist church was founded well before such means were available. I DO believe that time is short. I believe we are living within 20-25 years of our LORD's return. I do NOT personally CARE whether women are officially ordained as "ministers" - for the few years we have left to minister. What I DO CARE ABOUT, is how women are regarded. If female opinion continues to be treated as somehow "less valuable" than male opinion, then the church will miss out on what those women could have shared.

Red moon. Last occurred May 19, 1780. May or may not occur again.

We could flip that around. It is established GC policy to not ordain women. Those opposing are the ones to hold their tongues. The side backed by policy would not need to hold their tongue. But if it is proven fact the Bible does not support women's ordination i would hope you would suppress your desire to continue to ordain women. I believe Scripture does provide enough evidence for male only ordination to leadership.

Are we to use Barak and Deborah as our example for women's ordination when it was the failure of one man's lack of faith which led him to use a woman as a charm? Does not make logical sense to use a situation of failure as the example. Not all men are failures in leadership needing the woman to take over. Deborah still did not take over the dominant leadership role. She was only taken along as the charm but Barak was still the leader of his army. The ideal was for Barak, the man, to lead his army by faith.

That sounds like a fun job. I studied for a year to be a laser technician, which is mainly about electronics, but lost interest in that as a career so I dropped out. I've always been interested in math and science, but not sports.