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Jackson did you notice that I, myself did not say that, but I was quoting or at least paraphrasing, what from our General Conference leadership from over 100 years ago said to the Atlantic Union and New York Conference when they were going to start ordaining women. I was only pointing out church history. It was our leaders approximately 100 years ago who were, if you want to describe them as ""being smug about the status of those who opposed women's ordination." Please register your complaint with the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists from the early 1900s as they are the source that you are upset with and this was their view about 50 some years before I was even born.

**NEWS UPDATE #2 - October 2016** IT IS WRITTEN celebrated it's 60th Anniversary that was broadcast this past weekend on the Hope Channel -- and near the beginning of the program they showed images of Harry Anderson & his art that has been used on that program over the years!

I really like the points made here! by Sigve Tonstad from the latest Op source ...http://spectrummagazine.org/article/2016/10/09/ordination-between-heaven-and-earth * I believe in women's ordination because the Father is not a male, and the Triune God is not a hierarchy. * I believe in women's ordination because the person who first saw and proclaimed the Son risen from the dead was a woman. * I believe in women's ordination because the Spirit is being poured out on all flesh, on sons and daughters, especially on the daughters. * I believe in women's ordination because of the circle of anointed women in Paul's life and ministry, Phoebe, Prisca, Mary, and Junia, to mention just a few. * I believe in women's ordination because of the priesthood of all believers. * I believe in women's ordination because of the promise -- come the day -- when they shall no longer say, every person to his brother and sister, "Know the Lord" because they shall ALL know me. * I believe in women's ordination because the person wielding the highest teaching authority in my faith community was a woman. * I believe in women's ordination because I have seen churches saved, lives transformed, and communities blessed by the ordination to ministry of women, given from above.

I am a supporter of SDA education. My education through grade school and a college degree was 100% SDA. Since then I have obtained a 2nd graduate degree, military education and other training related to work that I was doing outside of the SDA system, and a 1st graduate degree what was from within the SDA system. Notwithstanding my firm support for SDA education, I would strongly object to what I think might be a 29th fundamental belief. Statements as I think might be proposed, I do not believe have any place in being placed at the center of SDA beliefs and practices. Further, they would, in my opinion, not deal fairly with those members who realistically can not participate in SDA education. In its present form, many members cannot reasonably participate.

Not "will be", it IS coming into focus now. The evolution-creation debate/controversy is about the worship of a Creator of which the Sabbath is a memorial.

Thanks for the prayers, everyone. I can happily report that my family made it through safely. I will continue to pray for the others!